Andy Coulson

[Deleted User] · 11/03/11 - 19:45

Just in case there was any doubt about his activities

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/mar/11/jonathan-rees-private-investigator-tabloid

paulschapman · 11/03/11 - 21:46

LoudGeoffW wrote: »

Just in case there was any doubt about his activities

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/mar/11/jonathan-rees-private-investigator-tabloid

Sorry, do we allow heresay and trial by media as proof of someone's guilt now.

There is nothing new here when it comes to Coulson.

Even if he had signed the expenses claims for the reporters engaging the investigator it is hardly going to say - Paying police officers for information recieved' is it?

Nothing has yet been proven when it comes to the Coulson affair - the guy has been hounded out of a 2nd job, and people still want more.

[Deleted User] · 11/03/11 - 21:58

You have a touching faith in the activities of News International.

[Deleted User] · 11/03/11 - 22:18

If you're squeaky clean you don't quit your job.

[Deleted User] · 11/03/11 - 22:21

Problem with this story is who else will investigate, other than the media (I think Panorama are covering phone hacking on Monday). The good old boys in blue at the Met seem to be rather entwined in the story themselves.

[Deleted User] · 11/03/11 - 22:27

LoudGeoffW wrote: »

Problem with this story is who else will investigate, other than the media (I think Panorama are covering phone hacking on Monday). The good old boys in blue at the Met seem to be rather entwined in the story themselves.

The Met is full of bent coppers

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/11/scotland-yard-murder-case-daniel-morgan

And it's not just the Met.

[Deleted User] · 11/03/11 - 22:37

I'm no conspiracy nut, but you'd have to be blind not to view to the close relationship between certain senior Met officers, the upper echelons of NI, and the lamentable failure to investigate the hacking charges as a bit dubious.

Aftershow · 11/03/11 - 22:44

Fullfrontal wrote: »

If you're squeaky clean you don't quit your job.

You do if you become the story in a role where your job is to control the stories.

I don't know exactly what he's been up to, but i'd rather his guilt or innocence was proven in a court of law, not trial by Guardian.

[Deleted User] · 11/03/11 - 22:50

Aftershow wrote: »

You do if you become the story in a role where your job is to control the stories.

I don't know exactly what he's been up to, but i'd rather his guilt or innocence was proven in a court of law, not trial by Guardian.

Is he suing the Guardian?

[Deleted User] · 11/03/11 - 22:50

Aftershow wrote: »

You do if you become the story in a role where your job is to control the stories.

I don't know exactly what he's been up to, but i'd rather his guilt or innocence was proven in a court of law, not trial by Guardian.

Bad press never stopped Alistair Campbell. Coulson's a big boy - he can stand up for himself (provided Rebekah holds his hand). It'll be interesting to see what happens when all the celebrities cases come to court, and we finally get to hear what Ian Edmonson has to say for himself. Not holding out much hope for the glorious Met - the fact they wait for NI to 'supply' them with evidence, rather than getting a warrant doesn't fill me with much hope.

fortytwo · 11/03/11 - 23:06

LoudGeoffW wrote: »

I'm no conspiracy nut, but you'd have to be blind not to view to the close relationship between certain senior Met officers, the upper echelons of NI, and the lamentable failure to investigate the hacking charges as a bit dubious.

I agree, it's just not possible to have an impartial and full investigation into the NoW hacking affair when the people doing the investigation are routinely dining with the alleged hackers.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/news-of-world-bosses-dined-with-met-chief-2222814.html

[Deleted User] · 12/03/11 - 13:13

paulschapman wrote: »

Sorry, do we allow heresay and trial by media as proof of someone's guilt now.

There is nothing new here when it comes to Coulson.

Even if he had signed the expenses claims for the reporters engaging the investigator it is hardly going to say - Paying police officers for information recieved' is it?

Nothing has yet been proven when it comes to the Coulson affair - the guy has been hounded out of a 2nd job, and people still want more.

Somehow I think if this had been a Labour MP you wouldn't show as much fairness.

It's funny how such a story has just disappeared from the public eye. We had lesser 'scandlous' things going on under the labour government that stayed in the news for months on end.

duckymallard · 12/03/11 - 15:15

Fullfrontal wrote: »

The Met is full of bent coppers

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/11/scotland-yard-murder-case-daniel-morgan

And it's not just the Met.

What a stunningly foolish generalisation.

Derrick Bird, who killed 12 people was a taxi driver.

Does that mean that taxi firms are full of murdering nutjobs?

[Deleted User] · 12/03/11 - 20:19

dfgh wrote: »

Somehow I think if this had been a Labour MP you wouldn't show as much fairness.

It's funny how such a story has just disappeared from the public eye. We had lesser 'scandlous' things going on under the labour government that stayed in the news for months on end.

It is astonishing how little coverage this story receives, considering its potential. One has to wonder.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/murdoch-ally-warned-mp-not-to-pursue-hacking-scandal-2238673.html

nottinghamc · 12/03/11 - 20:24

Ah, the guardian, still publishing the same facts slightly differently to prove their point. They've been after Coulson for how many years now, and still can't find anything against him.

nottinghamc · 12/03/11 - 20:25

Fullfrontal wrote: »

If you're squeaky clean you don't quit your job.

He left because the Guardian and others had already decided he was guilty and so he had become a story. Quitting doesn't make him guilty, evidence does that, something which the Guardian has been unable to find, despite years and years of trying.

Alez · 12/03/11 - 20:28

nottinghamc wrote: »

Ah, the guardian..

The Guardian supports the coalition, they are a pro Tory/Lib paper.

[Deleted User] · 12/03/11 - 20:29

nottinghamc wrote: »

Ah, the guardian, still publishing the same facts slightly differently to prove their point. They've been after Coulson for how many years now, and still can't find anything against him.

Are you saiyng NOTW never paid Met officers. Either Andy Coulson didn't know what went on in his newspaper or he didn't. Either way incompetent.

[Deleted User] · 12/03/11 - 20:29

nottinghamc wrote: »

Ah, the guardian, still publishing the same facts slightly differently to prove their point. They've been after Coulson for how many years now, and still can't find anything against him.

Er, these facts regarding Jonathan Rees only came out two days ago, as the murder case was pending.You really haven't quite grasped the implications here - it's not just Coulson, but the glorious boys in blue that have rather more questions they need to answer.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/senior-met-officer-should-face-mps-over-phone-hacking-2239758.html

nottinghamc · 12/03/11 - 20:30

Alez wrote: »

The Guardian supports the coalition, they are a pro Tory/Lib paper.

Erm, no they don't. They oppose the conservatives and always have, they asked people to vote lib dem at the election but have since been virulantly opposed to them. Where has this titbit come from exactly?

nottinghamc · 12/03/11 - 20:31

Fullfrontal wrote: »

Are you saiyng NOTW never paid Met officers. Either Andy Coulson didn't know what went on in his newspaper or he didn't. Either way incompetent.

Which is why he quit his job, and where did I say anything about MET officer?

nottinghamc · 12/03/11 - 20:32

LoudGeoffW wrote: »

Er, these facts regarding Jonathan Rees only came out two days ago, as the murder case was pending.You really haven't quite grasped the implications here - it's not just Coulson, but the glorious boys in blue that have rather more questions they need to answer.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/senior-met-officer-should-face-mps-over-phone-hacking-2239758.html

What has Coulson got to answer though? What evidence is there he knew people were being paid off? It always comes down to people saying 'oh he must have known' which isn't exactly a compelling reason to send someone to jail, or 'well, he was incompetant then' which he admitted and which is why he quit as editor of the NOTW.

[Deleted User] · 12/03/11 - 20:33

nottinghamc wrote: »

Which is why he quit his job, and where did I say anything about MET officer?

So you admit he was incompetent then.

nottinghamc · 12/03/11 - 20:34

Fullfrontal wrote: »

So you admit he was incompetent then.

Obviously, which is why he quit as editor, he said he should have known and resigned.

[Deleted User] · 12/03/11 - 20:35

nottinghamc wrote: »

Obviously, which is why he quit as editor, he said he should have known and resigned.

Then why did Cameron employ him.

nottinghamc · 12/03/11 - 20:37

Fullfrontal wrote: »

Then why did Cameron employ him.

To give him a second chance, or do you believe that he should never work again?

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