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Are non-whites considered English?
LadyCake
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The producer of Midsomer Murders made a comment in the Radio Times which led to him being suspended but part of the interview that jumped out to me has been ignored...
"Well, we just don't have ethnic minorities involved," ,
"We're the last bastion of Englishness and I want to keep it that way."
Do you think a person from an ethnic minority can be classed as English? If not , then why not?
"Well, we just don't have ethnic minorities involved," ,
"We're the last bastion of Englishness and I want to keep it that way."
Do you think a person from an ethnic minority can be classed as English? If not , then why not?
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As others have said, very obviously this is wrong.
What was the point? I don't think he managed to convey it well.
Of course non white can be English, but that isn't what he was saying.
But if you've lived in England for practially your whole life doesnt that also make you English?
How was that part of the interview ignored? He was suspended for making that comment
Locally villages also count anyone from outside the village as foreign so although you could 2-3 miles away, you are still a foreigner in their eyes.
You could be white,black,chinese or indian and still be labelled as "foreign".
If you were born in another country it does make you an immigrant.
The Australian Primeminister was born in Wales, to a Welsh family and lived there until she was 5 before the family emigrated to Australia.
For all intents and purposes, and legally, she's an Australian citizen - but if I was in her situation, I'd identify myself as Welsh..
I guess in the ambiguous cases it's entirely subjective and you could be either.
Having spent several years up in Scotland and the rest of my life in England I might well be seen as being English by others for the time I've been here. In certain discussions one gets the feeling this might be offensive (I know that sounds bad, but what can I say?) which is part of the reason I stick to saying I'm British. To me that identity isn't a crucial attribute when connecting with someone socially and I'd like to think it's the same for the other person.
Maybe he made his point in a clumsy fashion but I was reminded of being told "You can't be black and really English" followed by some Bernard Manning comment about stables:rolleyes:
What do you mean by Fail?
never watch midsomer murders,all that inane police shite bores me to tears
it is,however disquieting that no ethnic minorities are involved
Being born conveys little but to spend 99.9% of your life living in one country surely labels you as such, whether you like it or not. I could be like Ian Paisley (acutally hes a bad example - gregory camobell is better) and claim I'm not Irish but in everyone elses eyes I would be, largely down to accent and knowing where I was brought up
fairy snuff....if you weren't born in england then you're not english
You don't tend to see ethnics in the country. Locally there might be 2 or 3 in the villages but no where near as many in the towns and only in the last 5 years have they appeared. Before the local area was white. It is slowly getting more multicultural but people don't like it and they moan to the politicans like mad about the violent foreigners not speaking English and living in ghettos not mixing with the indigenous people.
The same can be said for the theatre or the cinema.
Funny thing is, I would have classified you as white!
As an non-white immigrant to this country, I find this curious. I think there are people who don't think of non-whites as British, especially English. Having lived in both England and Scotland, the distinction of race doesn't seem to be as big of a deal up there as it does down here. I dunno, maybe it's because Scotland has such a strong national identity. Within the English regions, there seems to be a strong identities. Perhaps it's because England doesn't really have to punch above its weight within the UK.
His point was, From how i understood it, He said, the typical English sleepy village doesn't have any residents from ethnic minorities, But i think from the T.V. company's point of view they wanted to be seen as "P.C." and culturally diverse and asked him to include characters from ethnic minorities.