Lost track of all the satellite stuff, I think last time I knew anything SESAT would just about to be launched - typically that's the only one that carries Motors TV FTA
(MPEG 4 anyway which I would have found when playing with the initial setup, not to mention that a 90cm dish would be needed with the predicted strength)
Alternatively you could not spend unto £150 on new dish/ stb save a few hours ****ing about , all club together and subscribe to sky and enjoy their ground breaking coverage. Just a thought.
Alternatively you could not spend unto £150 on new dish/ stb save a few hours ****ing about , all club together and subscribe to sky and enjoy their ground breaking coverage. Just a thought.
Nah dont think I'll be giving Sky any more of my hard earned pennies if its al, the same to you, you skyfan troll..
Not a sky fan troll , but I respect the standards that sky have influenced , I enjoy their footy coverage and I don't think hd would exist in this country without sky. I don't like paying for sky but I am pragmatic about these things. The op gives the impression it's a shared house so it eqautes to maybe £2.50 a week each compared to temporary sat dishes hooked up, cables running through windows , foreign commentary or out of sync radio commentary , come on.
Not a sky fan troll , but I respect the standards that sky have influenced , I enjoy their footy coverage and I don't think hd would exist in this country without sky. I don't like paying for sky but I am pragmatic about these things. The op gives the impression it's a shared house so it eqautes to maybe £2.50 a week each compared to temporary sat dishes hooked up, cables running through windows , foreign commentary or out of sync radio commentary , come on.
Well for me, this has always been a hobby I would like to get into. Free or much cheaper F1/Boxing would be a big bonus and the tipping point. You are right about shared accommodation IMO, but for me watching f1 would cost me around £500 a year. I would rather put about half that amount to getting a sweet satellite setup than give it to sky.
So what I was thinking was the lounge could use an old Sky Digibox I have kicking around (which hasn't seen the Astra 2 satellite since 2004) manually tuned to RTL through Add Channels and I would connect the cable to this via an open window before every qualifying session and the race and hope it's not too cold outside (but some cushions could fill the gap anyway)... Is this likely to work or is the Dodgybox going to throw a wobbly every time I need it?
So today I was passing B&Q and ended up coming home with a Ross HD satellite kit - for the extra £20 giving HD and USB recording I thought that was worth it... Below I have some notes which others may, or may not, find useful.
Followed the instructions and set the dish up on top of the wheelie bins (as I knew the fence being 1.5 meters from the dish in the south easterly direction was going to be a tough ask!), brought the TV outside (in the shed though) and powered everything up - while switching from Astra 2 (the default) to Astra 1 I noticed that the signal strength on Hotbird was 48% - curiosity got the better of me so I performed a scan - I had indeed found Hotbird with no alignment needed :eek:, after looking through the channels found I noticed no RTL CH , I then decided to realign the dish on Astra 1, this took a tiny nudge and I was there - signal 50% percent - did a full channel scan and found a number of RTLs which were all showing local news!
At this point I then moved onto the ground and found nothing at all after 30 minutes of fannying about I then went to get a cuppa and noticed the recycling boxes - and bingo, placed it on top of them and five minutes later I had Astra 1 at 40% signal stength - adjusting the elevation got me another couple of percent (make sure the screws are tight otherwise it becomes an arse) and adjusting the Skew gave me another ten percent - RTL is now at 52%
It's now raining so I'm leaving it as is for now - but as many channels are at 48% they are showing slight breakup - obviously a flat satellite cable to get it through the window is going to reduce that a little - I am going to try and get a better signal on top of my plastic shelving unit at some point.
One thing I found with the Ross is that it wouldn't show the new channels in the channel list after a scan - I needed to go into the top three menu items then exit for them to show up - confused the hell out of me as it insists on showing BBC 1 London all the time!
Oh, and the PVR recording even works with my NTFS formatted USB stick :cool:
Nice on Kev. You need to get a slightly more permanent mount set up but thats more or less how I started , only I used housebricks & then car tyres, which did me for a couple of years.
I have a Lidl camping satellite set up that cost me £30 new a couple of years ago. Complete with cable dish LNB & STB
I've become a dab hand at tuning it, I picked up 19.2 no problem on its 35cm dish and watched the qualifying with R5L's DAB broadcast dead in sync.
It literally takes only 10mins to set up.
What I'll do is run a cable to my TV rack, truncate the other end with a male F connector in the garage, and on a non BBC Sunday align the dish connect the cables and connect the receiver in the lounge.
Apart from F1 I have no real need for 100's of German channels.
What about paving slabs or those rocks you get from garden centers to hold it down?
It already has some paving slabs holding it down - think it needed more than one but it would probably crush the recycling boxes.
Messing around today I have found that it's too close to the tree to get a decent signal when wet - I shook the tree and the signal on RTL went from the 42% it was this morning to 58% again! However pulling it back another meter saw the signal jump to 86%, with BBC World jumping from this mornings 0% to 62%, but it's now right in the firing line for being hit by the bikes.
As the only English languages channels are the ones that have the worse signal levels and because it's so simple to set up I'm going to make do with the makeshift solution and just set it up on none-BBC race weekends. Even got the Dodgybox working on the LNB pass through port - you just have to tune into RTL within a minute of turning it on otherwise it reboots :rolleyes:
If only I had some ladders, I would be able to climb up to the Sky minidish realign it on 19.2'E and then somehow run the cable to my room. It's somewhat annoying that I am sat about 70cm from a Sky minidish I can't utilise!
First time poster here, I joined as I'm a big f1 fan but Murdoch aint getting a penny out of me next year to watch F1.
I'm looking at joining the RTL route for next year but wondering what is the F1 rights situation with RTL? I dont want to fork out for a new box and dish only to find out they will stop broadcasting soon. Are there any other alternatives to RTL if they lost the rights?
First time poster here, I joined as I'm a big f1 fan but Murdoch aint getting a penny out of me next year to watch F1.
I'm looking at joining the RTL route for next year but wondering what is the F1 rights situation with RTL? I dont want to fork out for a new box and dish only to find out they will stop broadcasting soon. Are there any other alternatives to RTL if they lost the rights?
But wouldnt the RTL rights be contracted for a certain period? Like the BBC originally had until 2013 before they renegotiated half until 2018. Is the RTL F1 term a published fact is what I'm getting at?
First time poster here, I joined as I'm a big f1 fan but Murdoch aint getting a penny out of me next year to watch F1.
I'm looking at joining the RTL route for next year but wondering what is the F1 rights situation with RTL? I dont want to fork out for a new box and dish only to find out they will stop broadcasting soon. Are there any other alternatives to RTL if they lost the rights?
Of course, being cynical, the BBC also had a deal to cover the sport until the end of 2013, so I guess there will always be a risk that the agreement could change the day after anyone where to invest in equipment to receive the broadcast from RTL.
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All European versions of Motors TV are encrypted
Someone needs to update satbeams then!
(MPEG 4 anyway which I would have found when playing with the initial setup, not to mention that a 90cm dish would be needed with the predicted strength)
Except for the UK one, it is free on Sky
Motors TV
France Sport Sky Digital VideoGuard 53335 3329
No it's not.
Nah dont think I'll be giving Sky any more of my hard earned pennies if its al, the same to you, you skyfan troll..
Well for me, this has always been a hobby I would like to get into. Free or much cheaper F1/Boxing would be a big bonus and the tipping point. You are right about shared accommodation IMO, but for me watching f1 would cost me around £500 a year. I would rather put about half that amount to getting a sweet satellite setup than give it to sky.
It is encrypted but has been FTV for a few months now.
FTV is NOT FTA
Following a software "upgrade" the digibox will not display programmes from non 28.2 East Satellites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digibox#Use_outside_Sky.27s_system
Followed the instructions and set the dish up on top of the wheelie bins (as I knew the fence being 1.5 meters from the dish in the south easterly direction was going to be a tough ask!), brought the TV outside (in the shed though) and powered everything up - while switching from Astra 2 (the default) to Astra 1 I noticed that the signal strength on Hotbird was 48% - curiosity got the better of me so I performed a scan - I had indeed found Hotbird with no alignment needed :eek:, after looking through the channels found I noticed no RTL CH , I then decided to realign the dish on Astra 1, this took a tiny nudge and I was there - signal 50% percent - did a full channel scan and found a number of RTLs which were all showing local news!
At this point I then moved onto the ground and found nothing at all after 30 minutes of fannying about I then went to get a cuppa and noticed the recycling boxes - and bingo, placed it on top of them and five minutes later I had Astra 1 at 40% signal stength - adjusting the elevation got me another couple of percent (make sure the screws are tight otherwise it becomes an arse) and adjusting the Skew gave me another ten percent - RTL is now at 52%
It's now raining so I'm leaving it as is for now - but as many channels are at 48% they are showing slight breakup - obviously a flat satellite cable to get it through the window is going to reduce that a little - I am going to try and get a better signal on top of my plastic shelving unit at some point.
One thing I found with the Ross is that it wouldn't show the new channels in the channel list after a scan - I needed to go into the top three menu items then exit for them to show up - confused the hell out of me as it insists on showing BBC 1 London all the time!
Oh, and the PVR recording even works with my NTFS formatted USB stick :cool:
The installation might be a bit makeshift but it gets the job done
http://kjs1982.me.uk/gallery/Random/rtl
Problem is the dishes kept blowing over
Hopefully being surrounded on three sides by a wall, a fence, and a hedge should help there. Might need to watchout for the wheelie bins though!
What about paving slabs or those rocks you get from garden centers to hold it down?
I've become a dab hand at tuning it, I picked up 19.2 no problem on its 35cm dish and watched the qualifying with R5L's DAB broadcast dead in sync.
It literally takes only 10mins to set up.
What I'll do is run a cable to my TV rack, truncate the other end with a male F connector in the garage, and on a non BBC Sunday align the dish connect the cables and connect the receiver in the lounge.
Apart from F1 I have no real need for 100's of German channels.
It already has some paving slabs holding it down - think it needed more than one but it would probably crush the recycling boxes.
Messing around today I have found that it's too close to the tree to get a decent signal when wet - I shook the tree and the signal on RTL went from the 42% it was this morning to 58% again! However pulling it back another meter saw the signal jump to 86%, with BBC World jumping from this mornings 0% to 62%, but it's now right in the firing line for being hit by the bikes.
As the only English languages channels are the ones that have the worse signal levels and because it's so simple to set up I'm going to make do with the makeshift solution and just set it up on none-BBC race weekends. Even got the Dodgybox working on the LNB pass through port - you just have to tune into RTL within a minute of turning it on otherwise it reboots :rolleyes:
If only I had some ladders, I would be able to climb up to the Sky minidish realign it on 19.2'E and then somehow run the cable to my room. It's somewhat annoying that I am sat about 70cm from a Sky minidish I can't utilise!
I'm looking at joining the RTL route for next year but wondering what is the F1 rights situation with RTL? I dont want to fork out for a new box and dish only to find out they will stop broadcasting soon. Are there any other alternatives to RTL if they lost the rights?
just buy a set up from Aldi/Lidl/B&Q/Homebase etc, it's SD, but what the heck ! HD is not the be all and end all
Crystal Balls are in short supply at the moment
But wouldnt the RTL rights be contracted for a certain period? Like the BBC originally had until 2013 before they renegotiated half until 2018. Is the RTL F1 term a published fact is what I'm getting at?
http://www.rtlgroup.com/www/htm/home_news.aspx?ID=319B58DDC929400696CA2999D3F3F066
That's good news, but is there any chance that they may no longer be FTA any time soon?
Of course, being cynical, the BBC also had a deal to cover the sport until the end of 2013, so I guess there will always be a risk that the agreement could change the day after anyone where to invest in equipment to receive the broadcast from RTL.