It seemed like he was going to be a large part of the plot like the episode with Churchill and the Daleks, and then he's out of the story, like he's the remnant of an earlier draft cut out too suddenly in rewriting, so it seemed clumsy, messy.
It seemed like he was going to be a large part of the plot like the episode with Churchill and the Daleks, and then he's out of the story, like he's the remnant of an earlier draft cut out too suddenly in rewriting, so it seemed clumsy, messy.
The whole point is, as I said, he was a deliberate red herring. And a very successful one. It really can't be called messy or clumsy because id succeeded in doing exactly what it was supposed to do. The very fact you started this thread only serves to prove what a resounding success it was.
I said when the title was announced as "Let's kill Hitler" that it's the first thing a lot of people would say if they were given access to a time machine - and the Doctor would mock them for not understanding that you can't change history - even the bad parts - willy-nilly.
I don't think many DW regulars ever really thought that the Doctor would be involved in a plan to kill Hitler - or anyone else for that matter.
Unless you're doing something very serious like Downfall putting Hitler in is a bit risky. I didn't mind he wasn't really in it, because all he was really good for was the great title.
I heard Moffat wanted to call 'A Good Man Goes to War', 'A Good Man Goes to Morrisons' but felt that was TOO much of a red herring.
I'm not overly criticising, but I do find the title a bit odd. By all means, set it in Nazi Germany, thats a great setting. It just felt as though Hitler was in it for the sake of Hitler being in it.
Hitler gave a pretty good reason to bump into the Justice Department for the first time -- I'm certain it won't be the last time we see them.
Also, people here have already said that Moffat wanted to belittle Hitler -- he's sick of Hitler being portrayed as some evil genius, and wanted to show him as a pathetic little psycho bigot. It was quite a good idea.
Hitler gave a pretty good reason to bump into the Justice Department for the first time -- I'm certain it won't be the last time we see them.
Also, people here have already said that Moffat wanted to belittle Hitler -- he's sick of Hitler being portrayed as some evil genius, and wanted to show him as a pathetic little psycho bigot. It was quite a good idea.
I don't think Hitler came through as any kind of character at all, his appearance was so brief.
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Much like communism was just a red herring in the movie "Clue" in fact....:)
The whole point is, as I said, he was a deliberate red herring. And a very successful one. It really can't be called messy or clumsy because id succeeded in doing exactly what it was supposed to do. The very fact you started this thread only serves to prove what a resounding success it was.
I was dreading a whole Hitler ep. I thought it would be hugely inappropriate-shoving him in a cupboard worked fab.
That crafty Moffat! Misdirecting us again!
I know, I shoulda had faith.
I don't think many DW regulars ever really thought that the Doctor would be involved in a plan to kill Hitler - or anyone else for that matter.
Ach blooming clever clogs you is.:)
I'm not overly criticising, but I do find the title a bit odd. By all means, set it in Nazi Germany, thats a great setting. It just felt as though Hitler was in it for the sake of Hitler being in it.
Oh I don't know, I think there were a fair few people who did.
Also, people here have already said that Moffat wanted to belittle Hitler -- he's sick of Hitler being portrayed as some evil genius, and wanted to show him as a pathetic little psycho bigot. It was quite a good idea.
I don't think Hitler came through as any kind of character at all, his appearance was so brief.