Its getting better but have they left it too late to save for another season?
Im hoping it does get renewed and the costs quoted for this season were mostly setup one-off costs and the actual cost to make an ep is much lower than we think. The cgi is only on par with the scifi channel which can't cost much.. the actors can't command a massive salary as they are mostly unknown so that leaves us with location and general filming costs (writers etc). Im hoping they can wittle down the cost per ep to make it viable for another season.
Not gritty enough. I don't care about the pretty, cardboard cut-out characters, poor writing with plot holes and glaring illogicalities all over the place that are insults to the viewer's intelligence. Ditto the little bits of 'science' in the science-fiction. I've predicted most of the 'twists' so far, which is a very bad sign. Spielberg has lost his touch, even if that touch was simply knowing which writers to employ.
The clunky pilot was the best episode so far, but I might watch a bit more if they introduce some more interesting characters, herds of migrating apatasaurs stomp right through the compound, or something interesting happens in 2149.
Perhaps I've got it all wrong, and it's a children's programme for 8-14 year olds?
Perhaps I've got it all wrong, and it's a children's programme for 8-14 year olds?
It is a "family show" that the parents of children even younger than 8 are supposed to be able to watch with their kids. How is it that you have not figured that out?
Good episode, and some "revelations" regarding the baddies in the future along with confirmation of the bosses sons research into reversing the portal.
Anyone know when the decision on renewal comes up?.
^^ But it doesn't seem to be a 'family' show, as it was advertised. It's at no higher level than a children's show, for all its enormous budget. That is what I stated clearly. How is it that you have not figured that out?
Few viewers over the age of around 14 can be expected to put up with this tedious nonsense: wooden acting,weak script, marked lack of tension and originality in a show that is by turns 'Little House on the Prairie', then political thriller, 'Lost', 'House' and 'CSI'. It's a lowest-common-demoninator, scatter-gun approach which looks as if too many cooks have spoilt the broth in the effort to stack in stuff that has worked elsewhere. Oh look - there's Newt from Aliens!
I'm not convinced about your 'children even younger than 8' point, either. You have noticed that the show features murders and showed a skeleton?
Well, it's definitely getting better.
Some interesting exposition at last, and the story line was better than we've seen so far.
All in all after a very slow start (does that make this a 'sleeper'?)
it's quite worth watching.
We finally got another mention and explanation of the 'signs on the rocks' that the kids has discovered early on.........and then everyone had forgotten about
And with that episode, i'm done. It's clearly not going to improve in any respect, and i fully expect it to be cancelled anyway (2.2 rating in the US last night, and considering the cost, there's no way that Fox will be coughing up the dollars for further episodes with such a low return on their investment). It really is just a mish-mash of ideas that have been done infinitely better before.
The show comes alive when Taylor is the focus, but when it focuses on the boring family guff (which is 90% of the time) it just dies on it's feet and descends into cliche-ville. The whole "harvest festival" thing was just cringe-worthy, particularly the little girl acting in a panto. I wouldn't mind so much if they'd actually made us care about the characters, but they're just cardboard cut outs that are poorly acted.
Any reason why the two daughters are of mixed race appearance (as you would expect from their parents), but the son is Caucasian?
Probably so that the writers can have the "big" season (series) finale cliffhanger be that the son discovers that he's adopted...To Be Continued...or not:p
Probably so that the writers can have the "big" season (series) finale cliffhanger be that the son discovers that he's adopted...To Be Continued...or not:p
Elisabeth discovers Jim cheated on her and Josh isn't her son
Any reason why the two daughters are of mixed race appearance (as you would expect from their parents), but the son is Caucasian?
Genetics isn't a simple averaging of genes so this is perfectly reasonable. The programme has many faults (I stopped watching and just came on here to see how ir was going) but this isn't one of them.
Perhaps I've got it all wrong, and it's a children's programme for 8-14 year olds?
That seems about right. In terms of sophistication it appears to be going for the pre-Star Trek audience/agegroup. You can't call it a "family" show as there's nothing there to keep an adult entertained. Though it does seem that a lot of people refer to something as "family entertainment" as an alternative to calling it bland, unchallenging and lazy-watching.
The plots are shallow with nothing in the way of "real life" ambiguity and the characters are superficial caricatures: each of whom can be adequately described in a single sentence (just what you need for small childrens' TV) and don't seem to ever step outside those boundaries.
If it had been called My Little Dinosaur and scheduled on an appropriate channel at a sensible time a lot of wasted hours could have been avoided, expecting a pay-off that never arrived. it's certainly not suitable for a peak-time slot on Sky's prime satellite channel.
Genetics isn't a simple averaging of genes so this is perfectly reasonable. The programme has many faults (I stopped watching and just came on here to see how ir was going) but this isn't one of them.
Of course, most people know that genetics is more a randomising of the available genes, keeping in mind that some genes (e.g. brown eyes) are dominant over others (e.g. blue eyes). However, being multicultural myself, and living in a densely multicultural city, I would be rather surprised to meet Josh's supposed mother.
It could be an interesting plotline (Josh = designed genes for some reason?), but there are other race issues they need to get out of the way first. [BEST STOP READING HERE if you enjoy posting attacks on 'multicultural Britain' in the politics forum, or you think tramwoman had a point.]
I reckon the whole reason for the doctor-wife being someone who has a mixed background from somewhere around India/somewhere in London is simply that women with that 'mixed' appearance are very hot in the media right now. Keep an eye out on TV, in ads etc, and you will see the inevitable 'dusky beauty', often lined up right next to the blonde. Elisabeth is just a sophisticated model of this trope. In short, the (mostly white men) who cast these things think that look is irresistably cute/sexy. Hence Elisabeth, Maddy, Zoe. Such a pity they are all such paper-thin characters.
Did anyone else notice that in the scene where the [strike]Others[/strike] Sixers first appear at the gates of TN, their 'darkness' and threatening appearance is tediously enhanced by a surprising number of them being black? I wouldn't mind if it were for a reason yet to be revealed, but this series is far too clunky and ham-fisted for that. They don't even remember plot devices they use from one scene to the next.
To move on from such touchy (but real) issues, how did Terra Nova manage before the Shannon family? They turn up (one of them illegally), and suddenly there is their first doctor, their first Chief of Security, and a family (even Zoe) that is apparently central to the colony.
I'd like to see TN go on and improve, but I don't think it's gonna make it, due to rotten foundations.
I'd been wondering about the lack of colour in the general population of Terra Nova, especially given the supposed 'lottery' selection for most of the colonists. However there do seem to be hints of a new cold war - good ol' USA vs Sino-Russia - maybe only the US and allies get to send colonists? Even so, I'd expect more black/asian americans...
I'd been wondering about the lack of colour in the general population of Terra Nova, especially given the supposed 'lottery' selection for most of the colonists. However there do seem to be hints of a new cold war - good ol' USA vs Sino-Russia - maybe only the US and allies get to send colonists? Even so, I'd expect more black/asian americans...
Maybe the black actors saw the script and said :eek:, there's NO chance of me being associated with THAT uncool crap bro!:D
I'd been wondering about the lack of colour in the general population of Terra Nova, especially given the supposed 'lottery' selection for most of the colonists.
The US has reverted to the 1950s and discriminates on race, the few non-whites appear to have been personally selected - either by the Terra Novans or the the backers of the Sixers.
Given what is known about conditions in 2149 it seems likely that some areas of the world are uninhabitable & that the US has a lot of white refugees.
Got to be the worst show i've watched.The first few episodes had plots as good as scooby doo.It'll get more time than it should just because of the writers.
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Im hoping it does get renewed and the costs quoted for this season were mostly setup one-off costs and the actual cost to make an ep is much lower than we think. The cgi is only on par with the scifi channel which can't cost much.. the actors can't command a massive salary as they are mostly unknown so that leaves us with location and general filming costs (writers etc). Im hoping they can wittle down the cost per ep to make it viable for another season.
i really dug maddies storyline this week,and not just cos her face is so darn pretty.
Not gritty enough. I don't care about the pretty, cardboard cut-out characters, poor writing with plot holes and glaring illogicalities all over the place that are insults to the viewer's intelligence. Ditto the little bits of 'science' in the science-fiction. I've predicted most of the 'twists' so far, which is a very bad sign. Spielberg has lost his touch, even if that touch was simply knowing which writers to employ.
The clunky pilot was the best episode so far, but I might watch a bit more if they introduce some more interesting characters, herds of migrating apatasaurs stomp right through the compound, or something interesting happens in 2149.
Perhaps I've got it all wrong, and it's a children's programme for 8-14 year olds?
It is a "family show" that the parents of children even younger than 8 are supposed to be able to watch with their kids. How is it that you have not figured that out?
Anyone know when the decision on renewal comes up?.
Few viewers over the age of around 14 can be expected to put up with this tedious nonsense: wooden acting,weak script, marked lack of tension and originality in a show that is by turns 'Little House on the Prairie', then political thriller, 'Lost', 'House' and 'CSI'. It's a lowest-common-demoninator, scatter-gun approach which looks as if too many cooks have spoilt the broth in the effort to stack in stuff that has worked elsewhere. Oh look - there's Newt from Aliens!
I'm not convinced about your 'children even younger than 8' point, either. You have noticed that the show features murders and showed a skeleton?
I think around May.
Some interesting exposition at last, and the story line was better than we've seen so far.
All in all after a very slow start (does that make this a 'sleeper'?)
it's quite worth watching.
The show comes alive when Taylor is the focus, but when it focuses on the boring family guff (which is 90% of the time) it just dies on it's feet and descends into cliche-ville. The whole "harvest festival" thing was just cringe-worthy, particularly the little girl acting in a panto. I wouldn't mind so much if they'd actually made us care about the characters, but they're just cardboard cut outs that are poorly acted.
Good premise, extremely poorly executed.
Probably so that the writers can have the "big" season (series) finale cliffhanger be that the son discovers that he's adopted...To Be Continued...or not:p
Genetics isn't a simple averaging of genes so this is perfectly reasonable. The programme has many faults (I stopped watching and just came on here to see how ir was going) but this isn't one of them.
Hollyoaks with dinosaurs!:eek::D
Still, could be worse.:p
The plots are shallow with nothing in the way of "real life" ambiguity and the characters are superficial caricatures: each of whom can be adequately described in a single sentence (just what you need for small childrens' TV) and don't seem to ever step outside those boundaries.
If it had been called My Little Dinosaur and scheduled on an appropriate channel at a sensible time a lot of wasted hours could have been avoided, expecting a pay-off that never arrived. it's certainly not suitable for a peak-time slot on Sky's prime satellite channel.
Of course, most people know that genetics is more a randomising of the available genes, keeping in mind that some genes (e.g. brown eyes) are dominant over others (e.g. blue eyes). However, being multicultural myself, and living in a densely multicultural city, I would be rather surprised to meet Josh's supposed mother.
It could be an interesting plotline (Josh = designed genes for some reason?), but there are other race issues they need to get out of the way first.
[BEST STOP READING HERE if you enjoy posting attacks on 'multicultural Britain' in the politics forum, or you think tramwoman had a point.]
I reckon the whole reason for the doctor-wife being someone who has a mixed background from somewhere around India/somewhere in London is simply that women with that 'mixed' appearance are very hot in the media right now. Keep an eye out on TV, in ads etc, and you will see the inevitable 'dusky beauty', often lined up right next to the blonde. Elisabeth is just a sophisticated model of this trope. In short, the (mostly white men) who cast these things think that look is irresistably cute/sexy. Hence Elisabeth, Maddy, Zoe. Such a pity they are all such paper-thin characters.
Did anyone else notice that in the scene where the [strike]Others[/strike] Sixers first appear at the gates of TN, their 'darkness' and threatening appearance is tediously enhanced by a surprising number of them being black? I wouldn't mind if it were for a reason yet to be revealed, but this series is far too clunky and ham-fisted for that. They don't even remember plot devices they use from one scene to the next.
To move on from such touchy (but real) issues, how did Terra Nova manage before the Shannon family? They turn up (one of them illegally), and suddenly there is their first doctor, their first Chief of Security, and a family (even Zoe) that is apparently central to the colony.
I'd like to see TN go on and improve, but I don't think it's gonna make it, due to rotten foundations.
Maybe the black actors saw the script and said :eek:, there's NO chance of me being associated with THAT uncool crap bro!:D
Given what is known about conditions in 2149 it seems likely that some areas of the world are uninhabitable & that the US has a lot of white refugees.
Easily. Hollyoaks without dinosaurs.
Might one have a source for that frankly unbelievable statement, perchance?:D