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The Ratings Thread (Part 29)
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Simon Cowell has filled one judging vacancy - Howard Stern is taking over from Piers Morgan on America's Got Talent. Tbh, when the rumours first surfaced I thought there was no way it would happen especially given the lack of ambition in previous appointments (Howie Mandel?!). But it's now confirmed. The show moves to New York and he's in for a massive payday as well. It should bring some more media attention to the show which is quite low profile considering it delivers fairly good numbers (a 3.3 average last summer, it's best cycle ever according to NBC). Despite his own age, Stern has youth appeal so he might help on that front as well. Sharon Osbourne and Howie Mandel are expected to return. Nick Cannon will host again.
NBC Press Release
FOX, NBC and CBS have all renewed their NFL deals through until 2022 (a record breaking extension). They'll rotate The Superbowl and NBC retain Sunday Night Football. ESPN have Monday cable rights until 2021.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/14/fox-sports-renews-its-deal-with-the-nfl-for-nine-additional-years-now-runs-through-2022/113797/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29
The top 15 cable series in 2011:
1. Jersey Shore (MTV) - 6,568,000 (adults 18-49)
2. The Walking Dead (AMC) - 6,039,000
3. Sons of Anarchy (FX) - 3,636,000
4. Pawn Stars (History) - 3,623,000
5. The Game (BET) - 3,433,000
6. Teen Mom (MTV) - 3,432,000
7. Tosh.O (Com Cen) - 3,337,000
8. Falling Skies (TNT) - 3,285,000
9. Keeping Up With The Kardashians (E) - 3,059,000
10. American Horror Story (FX) - 3,015,000
11. Deadliest Catch (DISC) - 2,852,000
12. Suits (USA) - 2,824,000
13. Storage Wars (A&E) - 2,771,000
14. South Park (ComCen) - 2,737,000
15. Royal Pains (USA) - 2,651,000
The list is for basic cable entertainment only. So ESPN's Monday Night Football (which would easily top the list) isn't included. True Blood on HBO isn't either - I think it would be behind The Walking Dead but ahead of Sons of Anarchy.
A pretty even split - 5 scripted and 5 unscripted in the top 10. 8 scripted and 7 unscripted when you extend it to the top 15.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/14/jersey-shore-the-walking-dead-and-sons-of-anarchy-are-top-basic-cable-series-with-adults-18-49-for-2011/113733/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29
Also worth a mention - some much needed good news for Endemol and NBC. Fear Factor was back on Monday and it hit a 3.4 rating for the 2 hour broadcast. A pretty good performance although The Sing Off was doing ~3.0's there last year and halved when thrown into a weekly slot against DWTS. Once again, NBC seems to be mopping up the DWTS audience in December - ABC's gameshow "You Deserve It" continues to flop, posting a 0.9 on Monday.
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NFL is probably the most lucrative ratings puller in the US and it's unsurprisng CBS, FOX, ESPN and NBC are willing to pay more to keep the rights although both CBS and NBC got sweeteners for renewing, NBC has the Thanksgiving game while CBS will get to air some NFC Games. Does anyone know why ESPN doesn't have the Superbowl, they paid the most for MNF games and somehow it doesn't seem fair they don't get a shot to air the Superbowl.
The NFL want it on one of the big 4. AFAIK, even with Monday Night Football matches, they're always broadcast live in the local markets on one of the broadcast networks.
Makes sense, IIRC Disney moved MNF from ABC to ESPN as it was losing money on ABC whereas ESPN charges quite high subscriber fees from cable providers as well as high ad rates.
Yes. It will be easier to beat Channel 4 in primetime too during CBB season with the news out of the way.
3PM Queens Speech
3.15PM Billy smarts circus (would probably be banned today)
4.15PM Film. Oliver (Not exactly new even then)
6.35PM News
6.45PM Bruce Forsyth and the Generation Game
7.45 Morcambe and Wis Christmas Show (probably the only good thing all day
8.45PM Film Airport (From 1970 if I remember rightly)
11.00PM Parkinsons Magic Show (Goood Grief)
And they say nowadays is unimaginative.
They also have the 1936 Christmas day version.
In those days big films like Oliver, The Sound of Music and Mary Poppins took many years to come to TV.
With no cinema alternative they were a big treat.
I think that was the first time they showed Oliver. It was a big event when I was a child. Films took far longer to reach television as the advent of video was still a few years away.
If thats the case then the Airport film would have been on for the first time since its only 6 years old at the time, films obviosly better than I thought.
Its easy to say looking back 35 years that its unimaginative. But these programmes catered to the taste of the viewers of the day - most of whom hadnt seen these films previously.
8pm The Manor Reborn 2.22m (9.1%)
9pm Crimewatch 2.91m (12.5%)
That's the lowest I've ever seen Crimewatch. Did lots of people go out last night? Everything seems down.
It may be wrong, but I read on another thread that Marry Poppins had its UK TV premiere on BBC1 Christmas Day 1984, 20 years after its release!!
I think it will get a decent timeshift, I have it all recorded as I was out Tuesday night and had visitors yesterday. So will watch it in one go at the weekend or early next week. The worst thing about not watching it Live is you miss out all the discussion on here.
Chronic rating for BBC1!! Anyone know how the Masterchef final did?
18.00 - The Simpsons - 1.9m
20.00 - Grand Design - 1.57m
21.00 - Living With The Amish - 1.78m
22.00 - England 88 - 1.26m
E4 (inc +1)
19.00 - Hollyoaks - 590k
20.00 - Big Bang Theory - 1.1m (Who said they need Friends!)
Yeah, hard to explain to young uns, without sounding like Grandpa Simpson, about how films, particularly succesful ones, stayed in Cinemas for decades. It was still a big event when they first came on Terrestrials.
I believe you are correct. Film premieres on television often didnt happen for a number of years and were very big news for the two main channels back then and were real event television guaranteed to get big audiences.
It is also why films like Gone With The Wind made so much money in its day. The studio would release the film every few years in cinemas. Then they would have double bills of films and still get big audiences. Television had to wait years and sometimes decades before they got their hands on a blockbuster movie.
I guess Crimewatch wasn't particularly the sort of thing folk want to watch on a Thursday night close to Christmas, and it had an appalling lead in too. I do wonder if Crimewatch really has much value in this news media/internet age - it was groundbreaking, relevant and important 30 years ago, and I do question its value now. Certainly in a prime time slot on BBC1, which I wonder if it really merits?
Rev seems to be building slightly again, deservedly so, and Frank Skinner is doing ok. Can't see why Skinner's show can't go out on BBC1. He was a ratings banker with his chat show on BBC1, which was also a success on ITV too - a rare example of a show/performer switching to ITV seamlessly in terms of quality and ratings.
And he appears on BBC1's Consider Yourself trailer as well. (I still don't know why)
And despite basically everyone in the country having seen the film in the 1980s, it still got 17.5m viewers for its premiere, just narrowly behind OFAH which I think topped the day with 17.9m.