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Cameron - Pro Scottish Independence?
duckymallard
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Nothing guaranteed more than a London tory trying to tell Scots what to do, to ensure a YES vote in any referendum;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083665/You-quit-UK-approval-David-Cameron-warns-Scots-First-Minister-Alex-Salmond-pushes-referendum.html
Alex should give him a call to thank him personally.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083665/You-quit-UK-approval-David-Cameron-warns-Scots-First-Minister-Alex-Salmond-pushes-referendum.html
Alex should give him a call to thank him personally.
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It's just the paper saying stuff.
That'll be why I put a question mark in the title.
Merely passing on what is being reported.
What on earth is strange about that?
but nothing has been reported. It's a paper making a headline from nothing.
You've then used a non story, to say Cameron is helping with the breakup of the union, even though he's said nothing.
At NO TIME have I suggested that Cameron has said anything.
There is an article in an online newspaper which has been written by a reporter.
By definition IT HAS BEEN REPORTED
yes you have. You implied in your subject and initial post that Cameron has said that. He's not said anything; nothing has changed.
Only in your own wee world. I said nothing of the sort.
cameron on telly this morning saying things about the paper saying stuff..
If there's any chicanery re the referendum on independence, that may well be the outcome at the next GE.
Why are the unionists squirming so much and trying to load the dice unfairly, in order to scupper the free will of the Scottish people, if they are so sure the Scots will say no and Scotland is allegedly a drain on England?
Any move made to de-legalise the right of Scots to be balloted about independence, will be counter-productive.
Could the Labour party sit back and accept such a move? It would be electoral suicide.
The SNP would become THE one party in Scotland and Holyrood and Westminster would never be at peace. How could such a constitutional crisis be good for the Union?
The unionists used that argument about Holyrood with the argument 'if the people return a majority of SNP MSPs' .Now that has happened it moves to 'all MPs'.
Why do unionists want to have elections on one issue only? Is there a fear they have no policies and so want to try and divert the electorate?
The only way to answer the question of do the people of Scotland want to become an independent nation again is to hold a referendum. The only party who proposed this was the SNP and they were blocked at every turn by the three unionist parties working together.
The referendum will be held in the second half of this Holyrood parliament, as stated in the successful campaign that brought an unprecedented majority for the SNP.
These attempts to hijack this by the unionists show they have no interest in the people of Scotland and continue to act in self interest.
Is this being said, reported or just a figment of the BBC imagination as well?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-16460187
ok, bugger off
It still is a bit different. He' basically saying you scots should know by now the date and the question. Well at least what the initial date and question would be.
He's still not bloody pro-independence
Oh I know what he's saying old boy, but my original point is still there.
He's damned near guaranteed that a lot of folks will vote Yes.
We (the Scottish people) have 1 MP and only 4 MSPs elected in FPTP, from his party
Yet here we have this cheeky bugger deciding that we do not have the right to determine when we decide our own future?
Any more of his shite, and we'll be digging up the claymores and heading South.
But by trying to control what Scotland says and when it says it, he is handing the SNP votes on a plate. He maybe pro union but his actions will work against the very thing he is for, he obviously doesn't understand the Scots.
What is Cameron going to do about it if he does?
Send in the troops to stop people voting?
Hardly.
All he can do is refuse to recognise the result.
If the result goes in Salmond's favour on a high turnout then that would play right into Salmond's hands.
they dont like being dictated to by a tory
They do not like being dictated to by anybody.
Downing Street maintains that Westminster’s power over referendums was established in the Scotland Act of 1998. The Prime Minister wants the referendum to be run by the Electoral Commission to ensure it is fair. Mr Salmond wants to offer two choices in it: an independent Scotland, or a slightly watered-down version.
Mr Cameron favours a single, straightforward ‘In or Out of the UK’ question.
it is not Cameron's call, in Scotland the people are sovereign and they have spoken , they voted in an SNP administration with the mandate to call a referendum
A ref on staying will happen and Scotland will opt to stay. This much is obvious. This is also why those wanting independance are now furious because they know its not going to happen.
There is no bluff to call. The timing of the referendum was clearly stated in the election that brought an unprecedented majority for the SNP.
Why are the unionists finding this so difficult to grasp? All they prove is how little election promises mean to them, as if people were not already aware of that.
i had a flashback to my youth.. an elderly lady at a reception desk prodded my colleague, who was only trying to be helpful, with her brolly and uttered the words ' i will not be dictated too by a tory'.. funny because he was a union rep..
dictate to the people of Scotland.:D
I can just see a legion of old ladies armed to the teeth with brollies, walking sticks, zimmers and the mobile troops in mobility trikes taking on the pro unionists from down south. Battle of Sauchiehall street anyone?:D