I agree "A Night To Remember" was by far the best film made about the Titanic disaster and there were several made. But I must admit that I did enjoy James Cameron's version too.
This series would have been better as a ten part serial. There is no way we had time to warm to any of the characters in episode one. It seemed a bit conjested.
The costumes for First Class passengers weren't exactly oppulent and the dining room had all the glamour of a run down working men's club..
My hope is that the next episode out of the four is based around the engine room and other crew.
I've compiled the goofs of Titanic (1997) and A Night To Remember (1958) too, but I'll need to revisit the list as some seem a bit suspect now - http://www.paullee.com/titanic/
There's an understanding that the maid was the only 'good' element.
You're darned right there, my friend!
On a different note, I was racking my brains thinking where had I seen Lady Manton before...then it hit me: Cracker.
Like most people on here,I was very disappointed with the first episode.
I fully appreciate those who ask what people expected to see in a programme about the Titanic,as just about everyone knows the story backwards via the films and countless documentaries.It just felt too rushed and cliqued.
Downton Abbey At Sea just about sums it up.
Will give it another go next week no doubt,and maybe once we warm to the characters it may improve.
I'm downloading 'A Night to Remember' as we speak. Just going to stick to that and Camerons version. At least you get to know and care about the characters (even Jack and Rose, lol).
Julian Fellowes has a flaming nerve slating JC for historical inaccuracies when he's imagining dancing in First Class and to compound the horror, Lightoller dancing with Dorothy Gibson. Jeez wept. In fact he nicked a few ideas from the 1953 Titanic with Clifton Webb, and although that was historically flaky it had a far better script and I would certainly rather watch that again...
Why were they dancing round a small room with bookshelves?
and why was that woman looking down her nose at everyone else? - could she not have sought the company of people of equal status and had a much better time
Why were they dancing round a small room with bookshelves?
and why was that woman looking down her nose at everyone else? - could she not have sought the company of people of equal status and had a much better time
I think what they had done was combine the 1st class smoking room (the fireplace where Andrews was allegedly last seen), the library (all those books) and the 1st class lounge. AFAIK the band never played in the lounge and of course there was no dance floor!
As long as it doesn't focus on the amazing revelations of the "steering blunder" told to his wife and then granddaughter, Louise Patten. Lightoller's wife and Walter Lord were in touch in the 1950s and Patten emailed me asking if I knew where copies were. Then she released her execrable book..... anyway, I transcribed the letters http://www.paullee.com/titanic/slightoller.html - theres a link to the QI forum at the bottom of the page where I discussed the "wrong turn" theory and its "merits."
Why were they dancing round a small room with bookshelves?
and why was that woman looking down her nose at everyone else? - could she not have sought the company of people of equal status and had a much better time
I think the idea was that she was she so sour faced and stuck up she'd probably have looked down on the Queen!
Really disappointed as many of you also seem to be by last nights episode. Safe to say i was expecting great things (especially because of my love of downton), but i have to say what an anticlimax!
Obviously i will tune in next week to see if the stories gather some strength, but to me it just seemed all crammed in together, you didn't get to know the characters in enough depth, as it was all just a bit jumpy for my liking, with no clear linkage between them.
I am hoping for a great improvement next week though, don't want julian fellowes to lose some of his credibility over it.
I've compiled the goofs of Titanic (1997) and A Night To Remember (1958) too, but I'll need to revisit the list as some seem a bit suspect now - http://www.paullee.com/titanic/
If you believe the article in The Sun today - which admittedly is a bit thin on facts - the sinking of the Titanic was all the fault of Winston Churchill:eek:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeLE0YgOQf4
Makes this rubbish look like amateur hour.
I agree "A Night To Remember" was by far the best film made about the Titanic disaster and there were several made. But I must admit that I did enjoy James Cameron's version too.
This series would have been better as a ten part serial. There is no way we had time to warm to any of the characters in episode one. It seemed a bit conjested.
The costumes for First Class passengers weren't exactly oppulent and the dining room had all the glamour of a run down working men's club..
My hope is that the next episode out of the four is based around the engine room and other crew.
You're darned right there, my friend!
On a different note, I was racking my brains thinking where had I seen Lady Manton before...then it hit me: Cracker.
I fully appreciate those who ask what people expected to see in a programme about the Titanic,as just about everyone knows the story backwards via the films and countless documentaries.It just felt too rushed and cliqued.
Downton Abbey At Sea just about sums it up.
Will give it another go next week no doubt,and maybe once we warm to the characters it may improve.
There was talk a while ago about making a film about his amazing life !
There was talk a while ago about making a film about his amazing life !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lightoller
and why was that woman looking down her nose at everyone else? - could she not have sought the company of people of equal status and had a much better time
I think what they had done was combine the 1st class smoking room (the fireplace where Andrews was allegedly last seen), the library (all those books) and the 1st class lounge. AFAIK the band never played in the lounge and of course there was no dance floor!
As long as it doesn't focus on the amazing revelations of the "steering blunder" told to his wife and then granddaughter, Louise Patten. Lightoller's wife and Walter Lord were in touch in the 1950s and Patten emailed me asking if I knew where copies were. Then she released her execrable book..... anyway, I transcribed the letters http://www.paullee.com/titanic/slightoller.html - theres a link to the QI forum at the bottom of the page where I discussed the "wrong turn" theory and its "merits."
Thanks. Very interesting read.
I think the idea was that she was she so sour faced and stuck up she'd probably have looked down on the Queen!
Obviously i will tune in next week to see if the stories gather some strength, but to me it just seemed all crammed in together, you didn't get to know the characters in enough depth, as it was all just a bit jumpy for my liking, with no clear linkage between them.
I am hoping for a great improvement next week though, don't want julian fellowes to lose some of his credibility over it.
A really interesting read. Thanks for posting it.