If he has booked the day off, either as holiday, unpaid leave or time in lieu, then his reasons for the time off are irrelevant and nobody's business but his own.
If he has booked the day off, either as holiday, unpaid leave or time in lieu, then his reasons for the time off are irrelevant and nobody's business but his own.
And this sums up perfectly why so many "workers" are despised by their colleagues who are the ones who have to take up the slack.
Depends how often he does it, doesn't it?
And people who question barmaids in an effort to catch a workmate out are the ones who are despised. The OP was spying.
It could well be that this man has explained a private matter to the boss but chose not to confide in anyone else at work. Unless he was in the pub all day, how would the barmaid know what he did and did not do anyway?
Depends how often he does it, doesn't it?
And people who question barmaids in an effort to catch a workmate out are the ones who are despised. The OP was spying.
It could well be that this man has explained a private matter to the boss but chose not to confide in anyone else at work. Unless he was in the pub all day, how would the barmaid know what he did and did not do anyway?
The barmaids full time job is in the bank in question!
The barmaids full time job is in the bank in question!
Ooo[ps! Sorry! I was focussed on the fact that she was discussing this in the pub where she also works.But the OP was still spying and the bank clerk should be sacked.
So you think I'm a bad guy. OK let me put it this way, if you were a Manager of a company, would you like to be imformed of your staffs absence if they were swinging the lead.
As the chap I know, I think he did, because he'd do anything for a day off. As he does the work yet he whinges about it, as he doesn't care
A workmate of mine phoned in yesterday and said he wouldn't be in work, as he had a appointment with the bank manager. A barmaid at my local pub also works in the bank that he goes to.
Went to pub last night, and I asked had my mate been in, she said yes, but he was only drawing cash out, and that no appointment with bank manager. She said he was only in there for about 5minutes.
Should I tell my boss what the barmaid told me.
Why can't you just get on with your own work? You don't sound much of a work "mate" to me.
While I would back you up were you to come across very serious misconduct at work and want to report it, on this issue I think you have no business getting involved. Made worse by the fact you actually pursued getting this information, this is full on meddling.
Are you sure that is what he told his boss? Could it be that he's just told YOU that reason for being off and that the manager actually knows a different truth?
I'm only saying that because he may have appointments that he doesn't want you to know about but the boss actually does know. It may be he just doesn't want to share it with you guys.
I'm suspicious because I don't know any manager that would allow someone to take time off to go to the bank, leave early or come in late maybe, but not a full days leave. It's possible there is more to this and you should just leave alone.
This chap is 60, and he doesn't give a dam about things, he's also got learning difficulties and he does'nt seem to get the jist of things. If you tell him not to do something he'll say sod you I'll do it my way.
I may be misunderstanding but as far as I can tell you're wondering whether to report a 60-year old with learning difficulties to your boss for not (as you understand it and you may be wrong) taking the day off for the reasons he originally said.
OP - do what you think is right. I find it amazing that people come on here saying "Mind your own business" but yet are clearly logged in to an advice forum themselves where the idea is to get involved to help other people with problems.
My advice would be to stay out of this one. It's not a serious problem and will, I suspect, be known about by his boss in any case. He might have another reason that he might not want to disclose for taking that time off. Also, if you do mention anything, you run the risk of getting the bank clerk plus yourself into trouble as well. I'd bin the idea and see what happens.
I dunno about anyone else but I had have an entire day off for something as frivolous as a visit to the bank manager I'd have to take a day's annual leave, I certainly wouldn't get a day off and still expect get paid for it. I might get an hour or so if it was a visit to the doctor or something important but I'd probably have to show an appointment card.
We used to have a guy at our work and he was the boss's son and besides being the laziest person alive he was forever snitching on people for the smallest things and everybody hated his guts. He nickname was Broken Arrow - completely useless and couldn't be fired.
I'd mind my own business personally and besides you don't know the full story he might already been to see the manager earlier.
So you think I'm a bad guy. OK let me put it this way, if you were a Manager of a company, would you like to be imformed of your staffs absence if they were swinging the lead.
As the chap I know, I think he did, because he'd do anything for a day off. As he does the work yet he whinges about it, as he doesn't care
You have no idea whats going on really, it may be a personal reason, the boss may already know the real reason but the story for every one else who is a bit nosey, is that its an appt.
You need to worry about what you're doing and leave everyone else to their own business.
I have been a boss and if you came and told tales to me, I would think less of you and that you couldn't be trusted. Just stay out of it.
OP - do what you think is right. I find it amazing that people come on here saying "Mind your own business" but yet are clearly logged in to an advice forum themselves where the idea is to get involved to help other people with problems.
The difference of course being that this is requested advice on whether someone should get involved in something in which they have not been requested or invited to do so!
I don;t understand what there is to "tell"? If he has taken a day's leave then it doesn't really matter what he did with it. Up to him.
Unless you are saying that he was given a paid day that didn't come from his annual leave allowance? In which case- your boss is very unusual, giving a paid day off to see the bank manager...
The difference of course being that this is requested advice on whether someone should get involved in something in which they have not been requested or invited to do so!
A bit of a silly analogy of yours really!
If you saw someone being attacked, do you walk by on the other side of the road because it's none of your business because nobody asked you to help ? The implication is that this person is defrauding his employer which may have all sorts of knock on effects on the employer, other members of staff etc etc.
If you saw someone being attacked, do you walk by on the other side of the road because it's none of your business because nobody asked you to help ? The implication is that this person is defrauding his employer which may have all sorts of knock on effects on the employer, other members of staff etc etc.
Another ridiculous analogy and nothing to do with your post and a blatant attempt to strawman my comment.
Just in case you've forgotten, you said..
I find it amazing that people come on here saying "Mind your own business" but yet are clearly logged in to an advice forum themselves where the idea is to get involved to help other people with problems.
The point is, advice has been asked...in the OPs situation, he has snooped, found out some 'facts' of which he has no real idea, and you attack everyone for saying, 'stay out of it because its not your business and you don't know the facts'.
However, your advice of 'do what you think is right' is the biggest piece of fence sitting non advice I have ever seen!
If you saw someone being attacked, do you walk by on the other side of the road because it's none of your business because nobody asked you to help ? The implication is that this person is defrauding his employer which may have all sorts of knock on effects on the employer, other members of staff etc etc.
How could someone with even a scintilla of common sense actually equate witnessing a serious attack with someone nosing about in someone else's private business? This is only my opinion, and not to be taken as gospel, but I fear your contributions to this thread may have erred on the side of totally useless. :cool:
For the record, I think the OP should leave well alone. If the guy's actions actually DO cause trouble for the company at any stage, it will become sufficiently obvious for his supervisor to notice and deal with it, rather than Goody Two-Shoes snitching about it first.
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If he has booked the day off, either as holiday, unpaid leave or time in lieu, then his reasons for the time off are irrelevant and nobody's business but his own.
Sorry Joni, call me Mr Cynic but I'm not so convinced!
Anyway, I've said my bit!
This too!
Depends how often he does it, doesn't it?
And people who question barmaids in an effort to catch a workmate out are the ones who are despised. The OP was spying.
It could well be that this man has explained a private matter to the boss but chose not to confide in anyone else at work. Unless he was in the pub all day, how would the barmaid know what he did and did not do anyway?
The barmaids full time job is in the bank in question!
No worries Doc
(check your PM's though )
Ooo[ps! Sorry! I was focussed on the fact that she was discussing this in the pub where she also works.But the OP was still spying and the bank clerk should be sacked.
As the chap I know, I think he did, because he'd do anything for a day off. As he does the work yet he whinges about it, as he doesn't care
Why can't you just get on with your own work? You don't sound much of a work "mate" to me.
Mind your own business.
I'm only saying that because he may have appointments that he doesn't want you to know about but the boss actually does know. It may be he just doesn't want to share it with you guys.
I'm suspicious because I don't know any manager that would allow someone to take time off to go to the bank, leave early or come in late maybe, but not a full days leave. It's possible there is more to this and you should just leave alone.
Hmmmm...
We used to have a guy at our work and he was the boss's son and besides being the laziest person alive he was forever snitching on people for the smallest things and everybody hated his guts. He nickname was Broken Arrow - completely useless and couldn't be fired.
I'd mind my own business personally and besides you don't know the full story he might already been to see the manager earlier.
You have no idea whats going on really, it may be a personal reason, the boss may already know the real reason but the story for every one else who is a bit nosey, is that its an appt.
You need to worry about what you're doing and leave everyone else to their own business.
I have been a boss and if you came and told tales to me, I would think less of you and that you couldn't be trusted. Just stay out of it.
The difference of course being that this is requested advice on whether someone should get involved in something in which they have not been requested or invited to do so!
A bit of a silly analogy of yours really!
Wake up and smell the beer Joni I call fibs.
Unless you are saying that he was given a paid day that didn't come from his annual leave allowance? In which case- your boss is very unusual, giving a paid day off to see the bank manager...
If you saw someone being attacked, do you walk by on the other side of the road because it's none of your business because nobody asked you to help ? The implication is that this person is defrauding his employer which may have all sorts of knock on effects on the employer, other members of staff etc etc.
Another ridiculous analogy and nothing to do with your post and a blatant attempt to strawman my comment.
Just in case you've forgotten, you said..
I find it amazing that people come on here saying "Mind your own business" but yet are clearly logged in to an advice forum themselves where the idea is to get involved to help other people with problems.
The point is, advice has been asked...in the OPs situation, he has snooped, found out some 'facts' of which he has no real idea, and you attack everyone for saying, 'stay out of it because its not your business and you don't know the facts'.
However, your advice of 'do what you think is right' is the biggest piece of fence sitting non advice I have ever seen!
How could someone with even a scintilla of common sense actually equate witnessing a serious attack with someone nosing about in someone else's private business? This is only my opinion, and not to be taken as gospel, but I fear your contributions to this thread may have erred on the side of totally useless. :cool:
For the record, I think the OP should leave well alone. If the guy's actions actually DO cause trouble for the company at any stage, it will become sufficiently obvious for his supervisor to notice and deal with it, rather than Goody Two-Shoes snitching about it first.