But why just The Pirate Bay? There are many others. In fact I have been a member of a well known private torrent site and they seem to be left alone to do what they want.
And what about Demonoid? Surely that is more well known than The Pirate Bay?
But why just The Pirate Bay? There are many others. In fact I have been a member of a well known private torrent site and they seem to be left alone to do what they want.
And what about Demonoid? Surely that is more well known than The Pirate Bay?
It's probably to do with the scale of the traffic that TPB receives. It is ridiculously popular.
I think you're wrong. What you mean is it doesn't make anything harder FOR YOU, and likely most people who post about such things in a techy-related corner of an entertainment site forum.
TPB is no longer the most popular Torrent site, and hasn't been for a while, which is surprising when you consider the amount of free advertising it gets...
I believe the reason behind the entertainment industry's obsession with this one particular site is that they have been openly taunting them for the better part of a decade, and despite a great many attempts to take it down, it still persists.
There are literally dozens (if not hundreds) of alternative sites one could visit if TPB were to be successfully blocked.
If the impossible happened, and all Torrent sites were blocked, then one could just switch to Usenet, FTP, IRC or any one of a dozen more methods of sharing files.
What I believe is that there is a spectrum of technical knowledge and skill of people using TPB, ranging from those that monitor the news and know this is coming and already have VPNs or other solutions in place , to those who will fire up their browser in a few weeks, try to go to TPB, and be shocked to see a notice from their ISP, not understand why, and not know what to do next. It will have little effect on the former, and a lot of effect on the latter. Sure they'll look for an alternative, but that alternative could be legal just as easily as it could be another piracy site.
I agree to an extent but it's so easy to find alternatives that you don't need alot of technical knowledge. Google search is more effective than Pirate Bay search .
They've not made anything harder. People just use other torrent sites.
TPB is down? Let me see if any of the other thousands of torrent sites are up - What do you know, they are!
Yeah, there are these amazing sites where you can type in a word or two in a box, and that'll result in links to other sites where such words are part of the content. Even my mother (coming up to seventy) could type in "torrent" and the title of a film or some music on one of these amazing sites, and come up with results other than The Pirate Bay. Who'd have thought such technology exists and that it would be so easy...
I agree to an extent but it's so easy to find alternatives that you don't need alot of technical knowledge. Google search is more effective than Pirate Bay search .
Well Google comes up with everything, INCLUDING The Pirate Bay.
I'm repeating myself, but check out Google's testimony to Leveson. It was more about removing defamatory articles from the search engine, but equally applies to copyrighted material. They don't want to have to be pro-active in policing their results themselves, but nor to they want to be seen as openly linking to illegal material.
So if they're not taking money from the pirates for advertising, and most searches for torrents don't show adverts anyway, why wouldn't they side with their big-spending, legitimate media company advertisers?
a couple of cherry picked and completely unrepresentative tweets, presumably from one end of the spectrum I mentioned in #100. (unless some are ironic, in which case, they got me )
they've blocked pirate bay omfg
PirateBay blocked & down
Downloading every album I could possibly want before they shut down piratebay and I actually have to start spending money on this shit.
Where the heck do you download torrents piratebay is down. I think.
Shit #piratebay is gettin shut down!!! Any1 know any other sites im pirate bay faithfull?!!!
First BTJunkie gets shut down, then most of the torrents on Torrentz get taken off the site and now PirateBay is gone too?! FUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
No #piratebay is being shut down soon! Need to go on a massive download spree whilst i still can!
Eventually, like the many other failed attempts to stamp out piracy, their demand for films and music will lead them to use a search engine or ask friends for the latest way to download stuff. How else do you think they got to use The Pirate Bay to begin with? Messing with the symptoms rather than the cause. Wash, rinse, repeat...
a couple of cherry picked and completely unrepresentative tweets, presumably from one end of the spectrum I mentioned in #100. (unless some are ironic, in which case, they got me )
I sincerely hope they are not representative of the general population. They seem to be deeply stupid
They are but they cannot be included out of the box 'for legal reasons' which is ridiculous. When I buy music or a DVD I should be able to watch it any way I want without the need for specialist equipment or 3rd party software.
Yes they can and are included by default on several Linux distributions, they will even copy protected disks.
And the ones that arent, you just tick a box on installation, job done.
But why just The Pirate Bay? There are many others. In fact I have been a member of a well known private torrent site and they seem to be left alone to do what they want.
And what about Demonoid? Surely that is more well known than The Pirate Bay?
There is many many reason. The biggest is simply down to them taking the absolute piss. Go on PB and scroll to bottom and look at ''Legal threats''.
The other reason is how popular it's become with teens and it's stance in the media.
In reality it really does nothing. As said already another site will now become popular then another.......... It's just losing battle.
The fightback begins - a first step for those of us who believe in fair play for the creative industries and the rule of law. There are plenty of paid for legal alternatives out there now so absolutely no justification for the continuation of the "owt for nowt brigage".
This will get ramped up from now on - the next step will be the letter dropping through the door.
Yeah, Pirate Bay is blocked from being directly accessed through VM for me.
Unless they block Google and the like, blocking one or other site like TPB will be just like chopping off the head of a hydra as there are countless other sites eager for the traffic formerly going to TPB who will be rubbing their hands in glee with the increased ad-revenue now people are using their sites instead to get the exact same torrent links which TPB provided.
Kill a big'un like TPB and it does have a limited short term effect, but the longer term effect is to scatter many of its users more widely, and once they've jumped site once, they'll be ready to jump again, and potentially learn to use proxies where necessary in future to bypass restrictions not just for websites but other regional content as well.
Yeah, Pirate Bay is blocked from being directly accessed through VM for me.
Unless they block Google and the like, blocking one or other site like TPB will be just like chopping off the head of a hydra as there are countless other sites eager for the traffic formerly going to TPB who will be rubbing their hands in glee with the increased ad-revenue now people are using their sites instead to get the exact same torrent links which TPB provided.
Kill a big'un like TPB and it does have a limited short term effect, but the longer term effect is to scatter many of its users more widely, and once they've jumped site once, they'll be ready to jump again, and potentially learn to use proxies where necessary in future to bypass restrictions not just for websites but other regional content as well.
Exactly. The media industry must be completely thick if they don't think this will happen. They've gained absolutely nothing if they get The Pirate Bay shut sown. They must have money to burn in doing this.
The fightback begins - a first step for those of us who believe in fair play for the creative industries and the rule of law. There are plenty of paid for legal alternatives out there now so absolutely no justification for the continuation of the "owt for nowt brigage".
This will get ramped up from now on - the next step will be the letter dropping through the door.
Aik! Would that be the letter warning me I'll have my contract terminated if I continue to use my internet connection to share pirated contact? And I think they say they might terminate my contract if they send three of them (I haven't received any of them yet, because I wouldn't be the sort of person to do naughty things like distributing copyrighted material, would I?)
But if I did get the third letter and they disconnected me, omg I have no internets... unless of course I sign up with one of the countless other providers operating in Britain. They're competing with each other to sign up everyone they can, and the last thing any of them want to do is to cancel your contract, which is why I doubt anyone will want to send you any letter, other than the one which asks you to upgrade your package to a higher priced one to cover the bandwidth you're using.
The fightback begins - a first step for those of us who believe in fair play for the creative industries and the rule of law. There are plenty of paid for legal alternatives out there now so absolutely no justification for the continuation of the "owt for nowt brigage".
This will get ramped up from now on - the next step will be the letter dropping through the door.
Yes- but is it possible to get all available content by signing up to ONE of them yet?
Please, Big Media, if you are listening, get proper wholesaling of rights organised so I can eventually sign up to ONE streaming provider and get what I want from one source...
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And what about Demonoid? Surely that is more well known than The Pirate Bay?
It's probably to do with the scale of the traffic that TPB receives. It is ridiculously popular.
TPB is no longer the most popular Torrent site, and hasn't been for a while, which is surprising when you consider the amount of free advertising it gets...
I believe the reason behind the entertainment industry's obsession with this one particular site is that they have been openly taunting them for the better part of a decade, and despite a great many attempts to take it down, it still persists.
There are literally dozens (if not hundreds) of alternative sites one could visit if TPB were to be successfully blocked.
If the impossible happened, and all Torrent sites were blocked, then one could just switch to Usenet, FTP, IRC or any one of a dozen more methods of sharing files.
Yeah, there are these amazing sites where you can type in a word or two in a box, and that'll result in links to other sites where such words are part of the content. Even my mother (coming up to seventy) could type in "torrent" and the title of a film or some music on one of these amazing sites, and come up with results other than The Pirate Bay. Who'd have thought such technology exists and that it would be so easy...
Well Google comes up with everything, INCLUDING The Pirate Bay.
And it's incredibly token, but its a teeny tiny bit harder to find torrent sites in google these days.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Search-Starts-Censoring-The-Pirate-Bay-IsoHunt-Just-as-Ineffective-as-Ever-236375.shtml
If there's enough pressure, I'm sure Google won't stop there.
edit:also note google doesn't accept adverts for copyright violating sites and products,
http://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/bin/static.py?hl=en&topic=1346941&guide=1308252&page=guide.cs
So if they're not taking money from the pirates for advertising, and most searches for torrents don't show adverts anyway, why wouldn't they side with their big-spending, legitimate media company advertisers?
I sincerely hope they are not representative of the general population. They seem to be deeply stupid
They're not coming across as bright, that's for sure.
Yes they can and are included by default on several Linux distributions, they will even copy protected disks.
And the ones that arent, you just tick a box on installation, job done.
There is many many reason. The biggest is simply down to them taking the absolute piss. Go on PB and scroll to bottom and look at ''Legal threats''.
The other reason is how popular it's become with teens and it's stance in the media.
In reality it really does nothing. As said already another site will now become popular then another.......... It's just losing battle.
makes no difference to me bypassed the block in under 2 minutes and even for those that can't there are plenty more sites like it
I bet the Judge that decided this took a longer walk from his chambers
What ISP no block here on sky. Not that matters for me anyway I really hate torrents.
And it'll be the first one to be taken down I fear.
So they have!
Edit they are blocking the IP as well (assuming I have the right one).
This will get ramped up from now on - the next step will be the letter dropping through the door.
Unless they block Google and the like, blocking one or other site like TPB will be just like chopping off the head of a hydra as there are countless other sites eager for the traffic formerly going to TPB who will be rubbing their hands in glee with the increased ad-revenue now people are using their sites instead to get the exact same torrent links which TPB provided.
Kill a big'un like TPB and it does have a limited short term effect, but the longer term effect is to scatter many of its users more widely, and once they've jumped site once, they'll be ready to jump again, and potentially learn to use proxies where necessary in future to bypass restrictions not just for websites but other regional content as well.
Exactly. The media industry must be completely thick if they don't think this will happen. They've gained absolutely nothing if they get The Pirate Bay shut sown. They must have money to burn in doing this.
Aik! Would that be the letter warning me I'll have my contract terminated if I continue to use my internet connection to share pirated contact? And I think they say they might terminate my contract if they send three of them (I haven't received any of them yet, because I wouldn't be the sort of person to do naughty things like distributing copyrighted material, would I?)
But if I did get the third letter and they disconnected me, omg I have no internets... unless of course I sign up with one of the countless other providers operating in Britain. They're competing with each other to sign up everyone they can, and the last thing any of them want to do is to cancel your contract, which is why I doubt anyone will want to send you any letter, other than the one which asks you to upgrade your package to a higher priced one to cover the bandwidth you're using.
Please, Big Media, if you are listening, get proper wholesaling of rights organised so I can eventually sign up to ONE streaming provider and get what I want from one source...
Just like I buy all my DVDs from Amazon..