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sky install and trees
Hi I am about to have Sky installed but I am concerned that trees will block the line of sight for the dish.
Can anyone advise if Sky are able to fit the dish to the chimney stack to clear the trees? Would this be classed as non standard install? Also would it require the special heights team or would a normal installer be able to do it?
Thanks for any answers
Can anyone advise if Sky are able to fit the dish to the chimney stack to clear the trees? Would this be classed as non standard install? Also would it require the special heights team or would a normal installer be able to do it?
Thanks for any answers
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Remember, Sky dishes don't look forwards, they look like they do, but they don't, the signal comes down at an angle.
It's not a very steep angle though, if i recall. I think it's only about 20-30 degrees depending on how far North or South you are.
I had to ditch Sky at one of my old properties due to trees. it was fine when it was installed in the winter, but as soon as the leaves arrived in spring I was scuppered. Luckily Sky allowed me to cancel the contract just 4 months in, as it should never have been installed in the first place.
Of course they are. If that's the only suitable place, that's where it will go, plus they are fitted there if the customer insists that's the only place they will have it.
Then, zoom in and move the dish onto your property.
Then click the "enable obstacle" button, and drag the pointer to the trees, it will tell you the distance to the trees, and the height they need to be under (measured from base of the dish, not the floor).
http://www.dishpointer.com/
Excellent site!
hence why i said "generally".
It's a lot more common than 'generally'
At one time it was standard Sky policy to fit dishes on chimneys, despite it been standard practice in the trade NOT to fit dishes on chimneys. Even worse, Sky generally 'wall mounted' the dishes on the chimney, rather than using a proper lashing kit - which on a weak single skinned structure was a VERY bad idea.
After quite large numbers of chimneys (particularly on council houses) were brought down by this policy, Sky eventually chnaged it, and started correctly wall mounting them.
Ah the good old lashing kit. Have seen some AVC installs where they are using web straps to hold the corner brackets in place. :eek:
Only drill dishes into larger, thicker chimneys. Half the time they are only single skin so too weak to be wall mounted
Will require the special heights team, so could end up with a delay to the install. I would contact Sky and let them know them know the score and they might send the right people first time.
I am of course assuming nothings changed regarding the install teams.
They are called 'corner plates' - and chimney mounts aren't 'too' bad if done using a proper lashing kit (and preferably two lashing kits, with a pole mounted between them and the dish between the two lashings).
It was the wall mounting brackets fitted on chimneys that were the real disaster though, chimneys are far too weak for that.
This was in winter when the trees were bare - the signal would have been washed away in summer when the leaves were out.
Had to go VM
Now in the country I am back with SKy
I was impressed at just how hard they did try especially as they were out in the pouring rain. Im gutted I cant have sky but as I say I cant fault the install team who did there best to try and find a solution.
So your house is identical to his with identical LOS and tree line direction.
I've installed dishes on telegraph poles, tree's and out buildings quite a few times but it's easier and more practical to install it to brick work on a house as close to the tv as possible.
I must say you hear some scare stories of engineers who dont try very hard if an install seems difficult but I was impressed at how patient these guys were as they tried various positions for the dish and a mounting pole but nothing was getting a strong enough signal.
Is that what I wrote? You're coming across as your typical DS know it all that can't wait to get on his high horse. I asked the question because it wasn't clear that the installers had investigated this solution or ruled it out for other reasons.
I think the word easier is relevant here. Too much effort to dig a hole, concrete a pole in, come back a few days later to put dish on and then run cable around the garden.
BTW, did you get BT's permission to put a dish on their pole?
Sorry but I said his situation isn't ever going to be identical to yours and frankly cant believe it will be, And also sky engineers dont carry cement, shovel's and suitable mixing equipment to be able to even warrant this method of pole install. So what your saying is we go round and dig holes. Then go buy concrete out of our own money. Set pole in ground and then go back in our own time to install the dish. Sorry mate but that's is the silliest thing I have ever heard suggested on this forum. And frankly just because you have a dish on the lawn doesnt automatically mean it needs to be there.
And also just because someone has a telegraph pole in the garden doesn't mean it belongs to BT. They had it put there because of tree's and mainly based on my suggestions this was the best one for that customer.
How many times a year would you go to a job and come away unable to provide service? If there's enough of them perhaps I can approach Sky to do them myself. Could be an earner.