So was I. I was really hoping Tyson Gay would get bronze.
My joy for Bolt winning was tainted by seeing him getting the bronze I must admit, if Tyson Gay had just dipped at the right time he would have had it! I noticed that Bolt and Blake kept away from him though!
Agreed. I was really miffed that a clean athlete and nice guy like Tyson Gay lost out to a double drugs cheat who shouldn't have even been there in the first place.
Yeah i think double drugs cheat Gatlin shouldnt have been in the race,
clean guys like Gay lose out to drug cheaters like Gatlin is sad
Michael Johnson didnt want to say Gatlin name and said something like the 'bronze medal will be forgotten' im guessing he feels the same way we do.
Personally i think its all blown out of proportion.He didn't kill,rape or molest anyone.He stuck a needle in himself to try to win in sport and got found out so he didn't even benefit from it.As far as i'm concerned if they've done the relevant ban then thats good enough and besides in a couple of years who the hell is going to remember the guy who came third.
A decent, hard working, honest bloke like Tyson Gay losing out by the smallest possible margin to a two time unrepentant drugs cheat. Maybe there is no god.
Yeah i think double drugs cheat Gatlin shouldnt have been in the race,
clean guys like Gay lose out to drug cheaters like Gatlin is sad
Michael Johnson didnt want to say Gatlin name and said something like the 'bronze medal will be forgotten' im guessing he feels the same way we do.
I'm pretty sure I read that when it was announced that a member of the 4x400m relay gold medal winners was found guilty of taking drugs ( several years after the event), Michael Johnson voluntarily sent back his medal. He didn't want to be tainted by it.
I think in the end that gold medal award was retracted as a second member served a drugs ban.
Personally i think its all blown out of proportion.He didn't kill,rape or molest anyone.He stuck a needle in himself to try to win in sport and got found out so he didn't even benefit from it.As far as i'm concerned if they've done the relevant ban then thats good enough and besides in a couple of years who the hell is going to remember the guy who came third.
He has benefited because, they havent taken his world and olympic titles off him.
Personally i think its all blown out of proportion.He didn't kill,rape or molest anyone.He stuck a needle in himself to try to win in sport and got found out so he didn't even benefit from it.As far as i'm concerned if they've done the relevant ban then thats good enough and besides in a couple of years who the hell is going to remember the guy who came third.
But he committed the same offence TWICE, and is unrepentant about it. Whatever people think about Dwain Chambers, at least he only offended once and has been pretty sorry about it since then. But I still think it was wrong that the BOA were forced into revoking his ban.
But he committed the same offence TWICE, and is unrepentant about it. Whatever people think about Dwain Chambers, at least he only offended once and has been pretty sorry about it since then. But I still think it was wrong that the BOA were forced into revoking his ban.
There's a lot more respect for chambers than there will ever be for gatlin, chambers made a mistake got punished came back and has made the effort to warn others not to make the same mistake, gatlin is a habitual cheat has been banned twice no way should he be there
Personally i think its all blown out of proportion.He didn't kill,rape or molest anyone.He stuck a needle in himself to try to win in sport and got found out so he didn't even benefit from it.As far as i'm concerned if they've done the relevant ban then thats good enough and besides in a couple of years who the hell is going to remember the guy who came third.
He hasn't done the relevant ban though. He got banned for 8 years in 2006... that was 6 years ago. He shouldn't be there full stop. Cheating little ****
So was I. I was really hoping Tyson Gay would get bronze.
So was I ...to know you've been beaten to a Bronze by a drugs cheat must be hard to swallow...I hope it's some consolation to him that many see him as the Bronze medal winner.
But he committed the same offence TWICE, and is unrepentant about it. Whatever people think about Dwain Chambers, at least he only offended once and has been pretty sorry about it since then. But I still think it was wrong that the BOA were forced into revoking his ban.
Strictly speaking, he hasn't.
The first time he was on prescription medicine, which he hadn't declared.
The second time was for testosterone. Caught bang to rights.
Personally i think its all blown out of proportion.He didn't kill,rape or molest anyone.He stuck a needle in himself to try to win in sport and got found out so he didn't even benefit from it.As far as i'm concerned if they've done the relevant ban then thats good enough and besides in a couple of years who the hell is going to remember the guy who came third.
No one's saying he's on the level of some violent criminal. But as far as the sport goes, he brings it into disrepute.
The bans are not long enough. They should stand for a lifetime. People pay a lot of money to watch these people perform, they cheer them on thinking and hoping that they're just great athletes. They get invested in the experience of seeing them being awarded medals. When it's later discovered that they have been cheating, fans end up thinking "Why bother? Why spend my money on this sport when it's full of cheats and fakes and the outcomes of the races I pay to watch get overturned?"
That's why he, and others like him, are bad for the sport.
No one's saying he's on the level of some violent criminal. But as far as the sport goes, he brings it into disrepute.
The bans are not long enough. They should stand for a lifetime. People pay a lot of money to watch these people perform, they cheer them on thinking and hoping that they're just great athletes. They get invested in the experience of seeing them being awarded medals. When it's later discovered that they have been cheating, fans end up thinking "Why bother? Why spend my money on this sport when it's full of cheats and fakes and the outcomes of the races I pay to watch get overturned?"
That's why he, and others like him, are bad for the sport.
I fully agree with you. Seeing former cheats win medals does not really sit well with me and does make the result seem somehow tainted.
I would be supportive of lifetime bans for proven cheats.
No one's saying he's on the level of some violent criminal. But as far as the sport goes, he brings it into disrepute.
The bans are not long enough. They should stand for a lifetime. People pay a lot of money to watch these people perform, they cheer them on thinking and hoping that they're just great athletes. They get invested in the experience of seeing them being awarded medals. When it's later discovered that they have been cheating, fans end up thinking "Why bother? Why spend my money on this sport when it's full of cheats and fakes and the outcomes of the races I pay to watch get overturned?"
That's why he, and others like him, are bad for the sport.
Not totally convinced by this. Athletes don't take up sport as adults (well, very rarely), they are coached from a very young age and the adults who end up being influential in their training program is largely down to a lot of luck.
As long as someone is totally clean, however long that takes, I don't think they should be penalised for the rest of their lives.
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My joy for Bolt winning was tainted by seeing him getting the bronze I must admit, if Tyson Gay had just dipped at the right time he would have had it! I noticed that Bolt and Blake kept away from him though!
Same
also when the BBC interviewed him after the race i felt sorry for him.
Life really sucks sometimes. : (
clean guys like Gay lose out to drug cheaters like Gatlin is sad
Michael Johnson didnt want to say Gatlin name and said something like the 'bronze medal will be forgotten' im guessing he feels the same way we do.
I dont get it as well
Twice you should get a life time ban, it shows you havent
learnt from your mistakes, and your trying to cheat again.
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I'm sure if you offered Tyson Gay the chance to take the Bronze because Gatlin had cheated he'd bite your hand off.
Both have had bans. Both got medals.
Hmmm.
I'm pretty sure I read that when it was announced that a member of the 4x400m relay gold medal winners was found guilty of taking drugs ( several years after the event), Michael Johnson voluntarily sent back his medal. He didn't want to be tainted by it.
I think in the end that gold medal award was retracted as a second member served a drugs ban.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/2302250/Michael-Johnson-Why-drugs-cheat-shamed-me-into-handing-back-Olympic-relay-gold-medal.html
I've just seen his interview with Maurice Greene on Eurosport. He was in tears.
He has benefited because, they havent taken his world and olympic titles off him.
But he committed the same offence TWICE, and is unrepentant about it. Whatever people think about Dwain Chambers, at least he only offended once and has been pretty sorry about it since then. But I still think it was wrong that the BOA were forced into revoking his ban.
There's a lot more respect for chambers than there will ever be for gatlin, chambers made a mistake got punished came back and has made the effort to warn others not to make the same mistake, gatlin is a habitual cheat has been banned twice no way should he be there
He hasn't done the relevant ban though. He got banned for 8 years in 2006... that was 6 years ago. He shouldn't be there full stop. Cheating little ****
Strictly speaking, he hasn't.
The first time he was on prescription medicine, which he hadn't declared.
The second time was for testosterone. Caught bang to rights.
No one's saying he's on the level of some violent criminal. But as far as the sport goes, he brings it into disrepute.
The bans are not long enough. They should stand for a lifetime. People pay a lot of money to watch these people perform, they cheer them on thinking and hoping that they're just great athletes. They get invested in the experience of seeing them being awarded medals. When it's later discovered that they have been cheating, fans end up thinking "Why bother? Why spend my money on this sport when it's full of cheats and fakes and the outcomes of the races I pay to watch get overturned?"
That's why he, and others like him, are bad for the sport.
I fully agree with you. Seeing former cheats win medals does not really sit well with me and does make the result seem somehow tainted.
I would be supportive of lifetime bans for proven cheats.
Not totally convinced by this. Athletes don't take up sport as adults (well, very rarely), they are coached from a very young age and the adults who end up being influential in their training program is largely down to a lot of luck.
As long as someone is totally clean, however long that takes, I don't think they should be penalised for the rest of their lives.