I used to eat soap bars when I was a kid...................
I think this is the point, tbh - things like bars of soap or washing-up liquid are obviously not edible, but no real harm is going to come to a child if they're stupid enough to stick some in their mouth, and people don't typically lock them away from children. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to assume that the stuff inside liquitabs is just as innocuous as traditional soap flakes, rather than being the caustic nastiness which it seems to be.
I heard a snippet of an interview with this woman on the rado earlier. She didn't sound like she was exactly bursting with O Levels to be honest. She gave us a nice synopsis of what happens when you call an ambulance though.
Ma wee gurrul went to tha cupboard and but unto one o' these tablets. She musta though ut wus a sweetie. Wuh had to call tha ambulance and tha ambulance come and took uh to tha hospital and she had ta goatee untunsuv cayurr.
I don't think manufacturers should have to take account of the idiocy of the general public.
I think this is the point, tbh - things like bars of soap or washing-up liquid are obviously not edible, but no real harm is going to come to a child if they're stupid enough to stick some in their mouth, and people don't typically lock them away from children. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to assume that the stuff inside liquitabs is just as innocuous as traditional soap flakes, rather than being the caustic nastiness which it seems to be.
Apart from the great big logos on the side of the pack warning what it does if ingested/split on hands etc!!
People should be using common sense here for goodness sake.
If a child will eat cat shit from the litterbox, how the hell can you make a detergent tab look less appealing? Either lock them up or put them out of reach. Did this genius ever think that she could buy a box to store the detergent in that her child couldn't open?
Indeed!
And after one has done that one should also lock up and put out of reach the detergents etc.
More seriously, I find nothing to disagree with in this thread.
I personally think a £5 lock at the parents cost should come before us having to pay for the new packaging revisions that would be required. When did childproofing your home stop being the job of parents? I await "EDF should make all power to plug sockets turn off immediately when you pull a plug out, my child played with a switch and stuck a fork in, now she's got third degree burns!" to end up in the news because apparently noone thought to spend on some of these...
'Tis true actually - my OH seems to really struggle with opening the box the liquitabs come in, hence me doing the laundry
I find the ones with the cardboard pull tabs to be a pain. They have a tendency to snap halfway along so I end up getting a knife and cutting the box flap open.
Shall we just child proof everything to save us from having to hear the irresponsible parents moaning all the time?
A few ideas:-
Bubble wrap on anything with a 90 degree angle, laminate paper so they can't receive cuts, liquidise every food item to prevent choking, have a pin number to switch on the tv, ban all cleaning materials, no alcohol should be above 2% strength, remove all adult channels, close the internet (there's porn lurking in every corner dontcha know!), make women wear burkha's, put all medicine in a rubix cube type container (that way the kids will never get in them)!
Wow I'm really getting into this child proofing bollocks, by the time I'm finished the kids wouldn't even need their parents to keep them safe!:rolleyes:
BIB Starting with the children, leaving just enough room for them to see and breathe!!
Yes, yes, stupid, wreckless parent, "I'd never let my tot near the sink cupboard!" (if I had a child), but would it really do any harm to require the manufacturers to coat the liquitab in a bitter substance so that young children won't suck on or attempt to bite into them if they happened to get hold of one, be that through parental negligence. Every other household liquid cleaner has a bittering agent added, I'm sure it's law, certainly for the more dangerous ones, so why is this liquid 'container' an exception.
Just heard this on radio 1 and the "mother" affected by this. To be honest she was a nedet, (chav girl) you know, the kind that has a baby so she does not have to work and basically lets the child do what she wants while she smoked another ****/joint then when something happens to the child its not the "mothers" fault, its everyone else s.
Anyway why is this getting so much air time? there is more things going on in the world that are out of the control of the victims involved!
Wonder if the mother is now prepared for all the backlash that will come her way. She didn't really think she'd get that much sympathy? Muppetry at its finest.
Apart from the great big logos on the side of the pack warning what it does if ingested/split on hands etc!
I think people become immune to warnings, even if they have bothered to read the packet. Washing-up liquid says "keep out of the reach of children" but it's not going to burn them. The problem is the lack of general awareness (which is actually what the original story is about i.e. doctors who have noticed the increase in accidents). People are thinking "stuff which cleans clothes = fairly safe to handle and leave lying around", because that's what they're used to (while "stuff which cleans toilet = hazardous"), and manufacturers obviously never made a song and dance about "Liquitabs - new improved whiter and potentially much more dangerous than your old washing product!"
Yes, yes, stupid, wreckless parent, "I'd never let my tot near the sink cupboard!" (if I had a child), but would it really do any harm to require the manufacturers to coat the liquitab in a bitter substance so that young children won't suck on or attempt to bite into them if they happened to get hold of one, be that through parental negligence. Every other household liquid cleaner has a bittering agent added, I'm sure it's law, certainly for the more dangerous ones, so why is this liquid 'container' an exception.
The child should not be able to access them to begin with. They do print KEEP OUT OF REACH AND AWAY FROM CHILDREN on the side.
The fact is the covering soluble plastic is not flavoured at all because it is not meant to be put in your mouth. I think you'll find most plastics are not flavoured in any way because, well, they are plastic and not intended for consumption.
I don't think it's unreasonable for people to assume that the stuff inside liquitabs is just as innocuous as traditional soap flakes, rather than being the caustic nastiness which it seems to be.
Even the powder forms of Persil and Bold become chemically reactive to saliva and increase in their potency as detergents.
Also, there is part of me wondering, how hungry does a child have to be to try eat out of a cabinet full of cleaning materials rather than going to the fridge? Don't kids cry and tug their parents leg for attention when they want food anymore?
Put anything infront of a 7 month old and it will go in their mouth,be it washing tabs,paracetamol,cat shite or a bloody 6 inch nail,it really really is not the makers fault,and if this child was alone with a 2 year old who was playing with a liquitab someone somewhere is in dire need of parenting skills.Even if her message had been warning parents to keep them out of babys way it wouldnt have been so bad,but blaming the packaging for something a child shouldnt have anyway is wrong.
I don't get this Darwinism thing. Are people saying the kid should be left to kill herself? Sounds a bit harsh.
At least the mum isn't trying to claim compo from the manufacturer and I bet she doesn't leave liquitabs out for her little girl to eat any more. Blaming the people who make the tabs doesn't make her look very smart though.
I think people become immune to warnings, even if they have bothered to read the packet. Washing-up liquid says "keep out of the reach of children" but it's not going to burn them. The problem is the lack of general awareness (which is actually what the original story is about i.e. doctors who have noticed the increase in accidents). People are thinking "stuff which cleans clothes = fairly safe to handle and leave lying around", because that's what they're used to (while "stuff which cleans toilet = hazardous"), and manufacturers obviously never made a song and dance about "Liquitabs - new improved whiter and potentially much more dangerous than your old washing product!"
Lack of awareness is not an excuse, the amount of warnings on cleaning products including the IRRITANT logo on the back of the packs of most cleaning products is clear. It does not take a rocket scientist to know the affect the products have.
For instance I have Lemon Bleach, when I use it I don't think yum this smells like lemons I wonder how it tastes then proceed to drink it!
Too many stories these days about parents blaming and even suing everyone else for their mistakes. Maybe instead of seeing £££ signs when their child gets hurt they should look at what could be done to improve their parenting skills.
Our kitchen has a stairgate so our toddler can't even get in there. And everything else potentionally dangerous in our house is out of reach or baby-proofed. It's just common sense when you have a child that you do anything to keep them out of harms way. Spending £20 on a stairgate or £5 on a lock for the cupboard is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
The mother in this story is spreading the word to "stop it happening to someone else's child" as if eating liquitabs is a common battle for all parents. No, most of us keep them out of reach like it says to on the box.
I didn't say it was an excuse, it's the explanation, and it's what the doctors at Yorkhill are trying to improve.
the amount of warnings on cleaning products including the IRRITANT logo on the back of the packs of most cleaning products is clear
Yep, but most of these cleaning products aren't small and colourful. I don't think it's necessarily obvious that liquitabs would hold a special attraction for children (whereas I think people have by now got the hang of e.g. not storing bleach in lemonade bottles).
Too many stories these days about parents blaming and even suing everyone else for their mistakes. Maybe instead of seeing £££ signs when their child gets hurt they should look at what could be done to improve their parenting skills.
Our kitchen has a stairgate so our toddler can't even get in there. And everything else potentionally dangerous in our house is out of reach or baby-proofed. It's just common sense when you have a child that you do anything to keep them out of harms way. Spending £20 on a stairgate or £5 on a lock for the cupboard is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
The mother in this story is spreading the word to "stop it happening to someone else's child" as if eating liquitabs is a common battle for all parents. No, most of us keep them out of reach like it says to on the box.
She'll be keeping guns under her pillow next:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Wake UP for Gods Sake!!!!
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Her name is Shannon:rolleyes:
I think this is the point, tbh - things like bars of soap or washing-up liquid are obviously not edible, but no real harm is going to come to a child if they're stupid enough to stick some in their mouth, and people don't typically lock them away from children. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to assume that the stuff inside liquitabs is just as innocuous as traditional soap flakes, rather than being the caustic nastiness which it seems to be.
I don't think manufacturers should have to take account of the idiocy of the general public.
Apart from the great big logos on the side of the pack warning what it does if ingested/split on hands etc!!
People should be using common sense here for goodness sake.
'Tis true actually - my OH seems to really struggle with opening the box the liquitabs come in, hence me doing the laundry
Indeed!
And after one has done that one should also lock up and put out of reach the detergents etc.
More seriously, I find nothing to disagree with in this thread.
http://www.lectralock.com/Child-Safety_c_7.html
http://www.lectralock.com/Flat-Cover-Products_c_31.html
... to protect their own child for their own good.
I find the ones with the cardboard pull tabs to be a pain. They have a tendency to snap halfway along so I end up getting a knife and cutting the box flap open.
I bet he is very deficient in putting a new toilet roll on the holder too !!!Apparently it requires a womans skills .
He thinks the toilet roll fairies come and do that
BIB Starting with the children, leaving just enough room for them to see and breathe!!
Anyway why is this getting so much air time? there is more things going on in the world that are out of the control of the victims involved!
I think people become immune to warnings, even if they have bothered to read the packet. Washing-up liquid says "keep out of the reach of children" but it's not going to burn them. The problem is the lack of general awareness (which is actually what the original story is about i.e. doctors who have noticed the increase in accidents). People are thinking "stuff which cleans clothes = fairly safe to handle and leave lying around", because that's what they're used to (while "stuff which cleans toilet = hazardous"), and manufacturers obviously never made a song and dance about "Liquitabs - new improved whiter and potentially much more dangerous than your old washing product!"
The child should not be able to access them to begin with. They do print KEEP OUT OF REACH AND AWAY FROM CHILDREN on the side.
The fact is the covering soluble plastic is not flavoured at all because it is not meant to be put in your mouth. I think you'll find most plastics are not flavoured in any way because, well, they are plastic and not intended for consumption.
I don't think it's unreasonable for people to assume that the stuff inside liquitabs is just as innocuous as traditional soap flakes, rather than being the caustic nastiness which it seems to be.
Even the powder forms of Persil and Bold become chemically reactive to saliva and increase in their potency as detergents.
Also, there is part of me wondering, how hungry does a child have to be to try eat out of a cabinet full of cleaning materials rather than going to the fridge? Don't kids cry and tug their parents leg for attention when they want food anymore?
how about people with young kids buy powder instead of liquitabs
or is that also far two complicated for the pea brains to get their heads round
personally i'm another one to let darwinism take it's course
in the case of parents like this i'd even opt for a helping hand solution
At least the mum isn't trying to claim compo from the manufacturer and I bet she doesn't leave liquitabs out for her little girl to eat any more. Blaming the people who make the tabs doesn't make her look very smart though.
Lack of awareness is not an excuse, the amount of warnings on cleaning products including the IRRITANT logo on the back of the packs of most cleaning products is clear. It does not take a rocket scientist to know the affect the products have.
For instance I have Lemon Bleach, when I use it I don't think yum this smells like lemons I wonder how it tastes then proceed to drink it!
Too many stories these days about parents blaming and even suing everyone else for their mistakes. Maybe instead of seeing £££ signs when their child gets hurt they should look at what could be done to improve their parenting skills.
Our kitchen has a stairgate so our toddler can't even get in there. And everything else potentionally dangerous in our house is out of reach or baby-proofed. It's just common sense when you have a child that you do anything to keep them out of harms way. Spending £20 on a stairgate or £5 on a lock for the cupboard is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
The mother in this story is spreading the word to "stop it happening to someone else's child" as if eating liquitabs is a common battle for all parents. No, most of us keep them out of reach like it says to on the box.
I didn't say it was an excuse, it's the explanation, and it's what the doctors at Yorkhill are trying to improve.
Yep, but most of these cleaning products aren't small and colourful. I don't think it's necessarily obvious that liquitabs would hold a special attraction for children (whereas I think people have by now got the hang of e.g. not storing bleach in lemonade bottles).
She'll be keeping guns under her pillow next:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Wake UP for Gods Sake!!!!