Specifically on the subject of the HBO deal I'm not sure how well that's worked out for them. The access to HBO's archive is great but also limited because ultimately there's really only a handful of shows there and the rights for their new content, with the exception of Game of Thrones, has been a complete bust primarily because so much of it hasn't been very good. The question has to be asked would they have been better off making a deal for the archive and then individual deals for shows they actually wanted. And then the question has to be how many of the new crop of HBO shows would they have actually wanted.
I think Sky would have been better buying a handful of shows from different places rather than rely solely on HBO which is has great content like Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire but the rest not so much. They bought more mainstream shows like Vegas and The Following which suggests they are trying to less reliant on HBO.
HBO is still top dog in the premiumn cable market but Showtime and Starz have started to ebb at it, Homeland winning at the Golden Globes must have been hard to swallow for HBO. I've noticed the shows that used to dominate at the awards like 30 Rock, Mad Men etc have been overlooked in favour of newer shows.
Neither drama did brilliantly last night but considering the Paralympics I don't think 4.5m (inc +1) is too bad for The Bletchley Circle, but it doesn't exactly have room to fall.
You said The Bletchley Circle surged ahead 600,000. The fact is Good Cop dropped, it wasn't the same as last week and didn't increase. It dropped. I liked both but Bletchley was ahead in overnights. Bletchley didn't surge ahead, it started ahead and Good Cop was down on the previous week.
A second consecutive night with an underwhelming drama launch for ITV. I had initially thought they'd both be just about 4m without repeats, against the Paralympics, but after seeing Mother's Son clearing 4m against Paralympics AND New Tricks on Monday, I though Biggs and Bletchley would be 5m raters without repeats.
Add in Good Cop underwhelming from the start last week, Accused underwhelming for its last two episodes, and ITV's Last Weekend turkey, we have to give a big pat on the back to Inspector George Gently and New Tricks for doing the business on Sunday and Monday.
Steve mentioned the great Band of Gold, a very daring series even for 1996, about prostitutes in Bradford, that pulled in 14 million at its peak. One episode featured the taboo subject of BDSM.
Mucky dramas rate well. Always have, always will.
When BBC drama was in its 90s doldrums, nothing getting more than 6-7m other than Casualty, the Sean Bean Lady Chatterley pulled something like 12m and in a summer slot iirc. People like a bit of filth.
People are predicting 14m for the Paralympics Closing Ceremony :eek: Dunno what you people are on, but I wouldn't mind some of it.
Paralympics is a MUCH smaller event than the main Olympics, appealing to a smaller audience I cannot see it getting anything like 14m. 6-10m maybe? To be honest I think above 6m would be really impressive.
Comparing the ratings of the Olympics and Paralympics is silly they are different events appealing to different sized audiences, you cannot expect the Paralympics to get a similar sized audience, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, I'm not convinced they'll get a big audience for the closing ceremony, after mucking up the opening. In addition, there's not much competition on Sunday (there's no live TV coverage of Weir in the marathon, for example) and neither the football nor the rugby have caught my interest so its entirely possible I'll have started catching up on all the stuff I've recorded since the Games started and not switch over. Plus, Coldpay aren't my thing.
I've forgotten to get a Radio Times - are they going to call on the Soothsayer of Doom (Jon Snow) for the event? In addition while I've got used to the ads during the sport, they wrecked the flow of the opening ceremony which (along with the SoD, JS) led to me switching off during the athlete's parade.
When BBC drama was in its 90s doldrums, nothing getting more than 6-7m other than Casualty, the Sean Bean Lady Chatterley pulled something like 12m and in a summer slot iirc. People like a bit of filth.
And that was for the episode with the sex scene. It dropped like a stone after that if memory serves.
A second consecutive night with an underwhelming drama launch for ITV. I had initially thought they'd both be just about 4m without repeats, against the Paralympics, but after seeing Mother's Son clearing 4m against Paralympics AND New Tricks on Monday, I though Biggs and Bletchley would be 5m raters without repeats.
Add in Good Cop underwhelming from the start last week, Accused underwhelming for its last two episodes, and ITV's Last Weekend turkey, we have to give a big pat on the back to Inspector George Gently and New Tricks for doing the business on Sunday and Monday.
I think A Mother's Son is the only ITV drama that you can say did well. Against New Tricks it held up well and appealed to more people than Accused which had several weeks to build an audience, instead it lost its audience. I thought Mrs Biggs and The Bletchley Circle would have rated higher.
But BBC1 drama doesn't have much to brag about apart from New Tricks, George Gently and Doctor Who. Accused started high and people lost interest each week then Good Cop started low and dropped.
The Guardian has hit the nail on the head. However, the far more popular Sun is starting to criticise TXF now after years of bigging it up as the best show on television. I think people have had enough of it and I think if ratings continue to fall this year and next, then Cowell will pull the plug on it.
However, this will leave ITV with a massive hole in their schedule at weekends. If TXF does go, it wouldn't surprise me that they find another talent/reality show to take its place.
With the poor ratings it's been getting and going to get in the future, I think Cowell doesnt want it to suffer the embarrassment of losing viewers year after year. So he wants to call time on it as quickly as he can.
Yeah, I'm not convinced they'll get a big audience for the closing ceremony, after mucking up the opening. In addition, there's not much competition on Sunday (there's no live TV coverage of Weir in the marathon, for example) and neither the football nor the rugby have caught my interest so its entirely possible I'll have started catching up on all the stuff I've recorded since the Games started and not switch over. Plus, Coldpay aren't my thing.
I've forgotten to get a Radio Times - are they going to call on the Soothsayer of Doom (Jon Snow) for the event? In addition while I've got used to the ads during the sport, they wrecked the flow of the opening ceremony which (along with the SoD, JS) led to me switching off during the athlete's parade.
I think 14 million isn't realistic, i would love it to do that, but think 8-10 million would be fantastic for it, i do think Coldplay and Rhianna will bring a few (and in X Factors demographic) and will almost certaintly cause the x factor a headache and its lowest ratings in ages
With the poor ratings it's been getting and going to get in the future, I think Cowell doesnt want it to suffer the embarrassment of losing viewers year after year. So he wants to call time on it as quickly as he can.
An unnamed sources, that source using loads of cliched phrasing. It's completely made up.
With the poor ratings it's been getting and going to get in the future, I think Cowell doesnt want it to suffer the embarrassment of losing viewers year after year. So he wants to call time on it as quickly as he can.
I don't think he'll be prepared to see it do a BB and become ridiculed. I think he'll cancel the show when it's still reasonably healthy.
However, should it go, ITV could delve back into their archives and revive Stars in Their Eyes( but please no zelebs) or really big up TMO.
An unnamed sources, that source using loads of cliched phrasing. It's completely made up.
Its written by Dan Wooton though, who not long ago was awarded the title of 'Showbiz Reporter of the Year'. I'd like to believe he has good contacts and the report is true.
With the poor ratings it's been getting and going to get in the future, I think Cowell doesnt want it to suffer the embarrassment of losing viewers year after year. So he wants to call time on it as quickly as he can.
Trying to increase figures by getting people to tune into see how 'bad' it really is? Cowell, the King of Spin!
I don't think he'll be prepared to see it do a BB and become ridiculed. I think he'll cancel the show when it's still reasonably healthy.
However, should it go, ITV could delve back into their archives and revive Stars in Their Eyes( but please no zelebs) or really big up TMO.
Theres an Irish format called the hit which premiered last night and looks promising and seems to have got good reviews where singer/songwriters 'pitch' their song to established artists-Might be worth ITV giving that a go?
Channel 5 adds Classic Car Rescue to its lineup, starting Monday 24th September at 8pm. The big family movie on Sunday 23rd September will be Monsters, Inc.
5USA will once again show highlights of The (64th) Primetime Emmy Awards on Monday 24th September at 10pm. Also confirmed that one of the shows heavily nominated - Hatfields & McCoys - will air exclusively on 5USA as opposed to Channel 5.
Meanwhile Alphas season 2 premieres on 5* on Tuesday 25th September at 10pm.
With the poor ratings it's been getting and going to get in the future, I think Cowell doesnt want it to suffer the embarrassment of losing viewers year after year. So he wants to call time on it as quickly as he can.
I tend to take a more cynical view on this. My thought is that if he were to pull the show before it completely crashes and burns what he'd actually be doing is banking on the idea that anything ITV replace it with would bomb and therefore make them incredibly interested when he suggests a revival a few years down the line. Or you can take the equally cynical view that he'll pull it when, and only when, SyCo have a big new format to replace it with.
Theres an Irish format called the hit which premiered last night and looks promising and seems to have got good reviews where singer/songwriters 'pitch' their song to established artists-Might be worth ITV giving that a go?
With the poor ratings it's been getting and going to get in the future, I think Cowell doesnt want it to suffer the embarrassment of losing viewers year after year. So he wants to call time on it as quickly as he can.
Called a publicity stunt in the same vein as sacking Walsh then bringing him back.
Cowell knows the media will print anything about X Factor and he also knows the stupid Daily Star will put it on their front page and get it shown on Sky News papaer review.
Almost every X Factor story involving a scandal is made up by Cowell and his team because the British is so thick they will publish it.
5USA will once again show highlights of The (64th) Primetime Emmy Awards on Monday 24th September at 10pm. Also confirmed that one of the shows heavily nominated - Hatfields & McCoys - will air exclusively on 5USA as opposed to Channel 5.
Any idea why they aren't putting Hatfields & McCoys on the main channel? Its got pretty impressive star power and is very good. Not to mention that it did huge business in the US. Could have done well on Channel 5 rather than buried on digital.
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I think Sky would have been better buying a handful of shows from different places rather than rely solely on HBO which is has great content like Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire but the rest not so much. They bought more mainstream shows like Vegas and The Following which suggests they are trying to less reliant on HBO.
HBO is still top dog in the premiumn cable market but Showtime and Starz have started to ebb at it, Homeland winning at the Golden Globes must have been hard to swallow for HBO. I've noticed the shows that used to dominate at the awards like 30 Rock, Mad Men etc have been overlooked in favour of newer shows.
WHO mentioned Good Cop?:rolleyes:
Makes perfect sense:rolleyes:
Why are you always so rude?
Neither drama did brilliantly last night but considering the Paralympics I don't think 4.5m (inc +1) is too bad for The Bletchley Circle, but it doesn't exactly have room to fall.
You said The Bletchley Circle surged ahead 600,000. The fact is Good Cop dropped, it wasn't the same as last week and didn't increase. It dropped. I liked both but Bletchley was ahead in overnights. Bletchley didn't surge ahead, it started ahead and Good Cop was down on the previous week.
Makes perfect sense to me.
Add in Good Cop underwhelming from the start last week, Accused underwhelming for its last two episodes, and ITV's Last Weekend turkey, we have to give a big pat on the back to Inspector George Gently and New Tricks for doing the business on Sunday and Monday.
Mucky dramas rate well. Always have, always will.
When BBC drama was in its 90s doldrums, nothing getting more than 6-7m other than Casualty, the Sean Bean Lady Chatterley pulled something like 12m and in a summer slot iirc. People like a bit of filth.
I think it's a better show this series. The sitcom element of it is stronger.
Yeah, I'm not convinced they'll get a big audience for the closing ceremony, after mucking up the opening. In addition, there's not much competition on Sunday (there's no live TV coverage of Weir in the marathon, for example) and neither the football nor the rugby have caught my interest so its entirely possible I'll have started catching up on all the stuff I've recorded since the Games started and not switch over. Plus, Coldpay aren't my thing.
I've forgotten to get a Radio Times - are they going to call on the Soothsayer of Doom (Jon Snow) for the event? In addition while I've got used to the ads during the sport, they wrecked the flow of the opening ceremony which (along with the SoD, JS) led to me switching off during the athlete's parade.
And that was for the episode with the sex scene. It dropped like a stone after that if memory serves.
I think A Mother's Son is the only ITV drama that you can say did well. Against New Tricks it held up well and appealed to more people than Accused which had several weeks to build an audience, instead it lost its audience. I thought Mrs Biggs and The Bletchley Circle would have rated higher.
But BBC1 drama doesn't have much to brag about apart from New Tricks, George Gently and Doctor Who. Accused started high and people lost interest each week then Good Cop started low and dropped.
The X Factor: is this the worst start ever?
The Guardian has hit the nail on the head. However, the far more popular Sun is starting to criticise TXF now after years of bigging it up as the best show on television. I think people have had enough of it and I think if ratings continue to fall this year and next, then Cowell will pull the plug on it.
However, this will leave ITV with a massive hole in their schedule at weekends. If TXF does go, it wouldn't surprise me that they find another talent/reality show to take its place.
With the poor ratings it's been getting and going to get in the future, I think Cowell doesnt want it to suffer the embarrassment of losing viewers year after year. So he wants to call time on it as quickly as he can.
I think 14 million isn't realistic, i would love it to do that, but think 8-10 million would be fantastic for it, i do think Coldplay and Rhianna will bring a few (and in X Factors demographic) and will almost certaintly cause the x factor a headache and its lowest ratings in ages
An unnamed sources, that source using loads of cliched phrasing. It's completely made up.
I don't think he'll be prepared to see it do a BB and become ridiculed. I think he'll cancel the show when it's still reasonably healthy.
However, should it go, ITV could delve back into their archives and revive Stars in Their Eyes( but please no zelebs) or really big up TMO.
Trying to increase figures by getting people to tune into see how 'bad' it really is? Cowell, the King of Spin!
Theres an Irish format called the hit which premiered last night and looks promising and seems to have got good reviews where singer/songwriters 'pitch' their song to established artists-Might be worth ITV giving that a go?
5USA will once again show highlights of The (64th) Primetime Emmy Awards on Monday 24th September at 10pm. Also confirmed that one of the shows heavily nominated - Hatfields & McCoys - will air exclusively on 5USA as opposed to Channel 5.
Meanwhile Alphas season 2 premieres on 5* on Tuesday 25th September at 10pm.
Called a publicity stunt in the same vein as sacking Walsh then bringing him back.
Cowell knows the media will print anything about X Factor and he also knows the stupid Daily Star will put it on their front page and get it shown on Sky News papaer review.
Almost every X Factor story involving a scandal is made up by Cowell and his team because the British is so thick they will publish it.