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It is wrong to say that we are getting less Doctor Who
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The Christmas Invasion was shown on 25/12/05.
The End of Time, Part Two was shown on 01/01/2010.
That means that the David Tennant era lasted 1,469 days.
Using the episode lengths on Wikipedia, the total length of his episodes was 2,304 minutes.
The Eleventh Hour was shown on 03/04/2010.
The Angels Take Manhattan was shown on 29/09/2012.
That means that the Matt Smith era has lasted 911 days so far.
Using the episode lengths on Wikipedia, the total length of his episodes to date is 1,575 minutes.
That means we get the following averages:
10th Doctor – 1.568 minutes of Doctor Who per day.
11th Doctor – 1.729 minutes of Doctor Who per day.
We are currently ahead by 10%!
Even if you want to include the 2012 Christmas special, assuming that it is an hour long and shown on Christmas Day, the 11th Doctor’s average is still 1.638
If you start each Doctor’s era from their actual first appearance, the difference is even larger.
So, we are getting more Doctor Who than before, the ratings are about the same (or up, depending on how you count the millions of IPlayer views) and the show is the only one of BBC Worldwide’s international ‘mega-brands’ that is a drama.
I would not worry about the show being cancelled. I would worry about not being able to see the episodes they will still be making when we are all dead!
I really hope my sums are okay!
The Christmas Invasion was shown on 25/12/05.
The End of Time, Part Two was shown on 01/01/2010.
That means that the David Tennant era lasted 1,469 days.
Using the episode lengths on Wikipedia, the total length of his episodes was 2,304 minutes.
The Eleventh Hour was shown on 03/04/2010.
The Angels Take Manhattan was shown on 29/09/2012.
That means that the Matt Smith era has lasted 911 days so far.
Using the episode lengths on Wikipedia, the total length of his episodes to date is 1,575 minutes.
That means we get the following averages:
10th Doctor – 1.568 minutes of Doctor Who per day.
11th Doctor – 1.729 minutes of Doctor Who per day.
We are currently ahead by 10%!
Even if you want to include the 2012 Christmas special, assuming that it is an hour long and shown on Christmas Day, the 11th Doctor’s average is still 1.638
If you start each Doctor’s era from their actual first appearance, the difference is even larger.
So, we are getting more Doctor Who than before, the ratings are about the same (or up, depending on how you count the millions of IPlayer views) and the show is the only one of BBC Worldwide’s international ‘mega-brands’ that is a drama.
I would not worry about the show being cancelled. I would worry about not being able to see the episodes they will still be making when we are all dead!
I really hope my sums are okay!
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It's better than none - don't get me wrong. Also I always felt 13 was too many. I don't know why they felt the need to make that many - especially when the cast and crew were getting so exhausted. Why not just make 9 and always have a steady run i.e. no breaks in transmission?
Hello and sorry.
The short version is that we are getting more Doctor Who per day now, than we did with the 10th Doctor, so people who say that we are getting less because the series has moved about in the year are wrong.
Talk about jumping through hoops to try and prove Black is White.
We're getting one series in two years. How is that not less than one series a year?
6 isn't enough but 9 plus a Christmas special I could handle.
This years six just flew over:(
Hello
We have had 230 minutes of Doctor Who this year (and will probably get another 60).
In 2009 we had 180 minutes.
Also there was a gap between The Christmas Invasion and New Earth, which the 11th Doctor did not have.
These mean that we have had more Doctor Who over this Doctor's time than the 10th Doctor's.
I am afraid that I cannot work out how the second half of this series and anything else in 2013 will affect this average until they are scheduled.
I hope I have made that clearer.
If you pick and choose your points of comparison you can prove anything you want.
How much was there in 2005 versus 2012? 2006 versus 2012? 2007 versus 2012? 2008 versus 2012? 2010 versus 2012? 2011 versus 2012?
Of course some folks round here would say we are getting neither. Not me. I'm looking forward to Christmas and then Spring and then autumn again
Do the numbers again, assuming for the sake of discussion that 7.2 ends in late April 2013 and consists of whatever length 7.1 episodes were.
You might also want to provide a figure assuming that there are no further episodes between the end of 7.2 and the 23rd November anniversary special. Just for fun assume it is ninety minutes or something. What would a best guess average look like then?
I assume this is just for fun. Nobody is seriously thinking about the average number of minutes of Doctor Who per day they've watched.
We are not, we are getting one series in one year, just because it goes into another year doesn't add a year up. Its still practically the same, 13 episodes within a set amount of time, its just moved a bit so they dont all air back to back.
I see.
I doubt many fans average out the screen time into minutes per day, though. We're still getting 14 episode seasons so nothing's changed except the way they're broadcast.
As for the above mathematics, they mean nothing. The figures are skewed as David Tennant's reign had a "year off" with only specials aired in it, whereas Matt Smith has never had this year off (until now maybe).
As for Doctor Who, a 13 episode series really isn't a lot. The classic series had far more than that yearly. However 13 episodes feels right and may were happy with it. Quite why they are now splitting a series in 2 makes no sense. I understand a 2 week break for Xmas, like they do in the USA, but there is no reason for this split. Doctor Who makes the BBC a lot of cash, in my eyes they should be putting out as many episodes as they can in order to maximise revenue, not messing everyone around by splitting the series into 2.
I was not picking points of comparison, I was showing where the bigger gaps are.
Sorry if that was not clear.
If there is something wrong with my sums, please let me know.
Thank you.
But if you aren't willing to offer a projection of the likely figure including 7.2, presumably because you only want to use historical facts, then you have jumped the gun with this thread?
Don't you think its a bit odd to say "Dont worry about the lack of episodes this year because I've found a year that was even worse!". It's hardly a reason to pop the champagne corks.
How about telling everyone they are wrong about the lack of 2012 episodes because in 1962 and 2004 there was a total of zero episodes.
Hello
If the second half of this series starts on Easter Saturday, which is 30/03/2013, it will end on 18/05/2013.
If the episodes are all 45 minutes long, then the 11th Doctor's total will be 1,995 minutes over 1,142 days, so the average will go up to 1.747 minutes per day.
If there is nothing until a 90 minute special on 23/11/2013, then the 11th Doctor's total will be 2,085 minutes over 1,331 days, so the average will go down to 1.566 minutes per day.
This is very slightly below the 10th Doctor's average.
But I do hope that there will be more than that for the anniversary.
Rubbish! Discounting the Christmas specials:
Series 1 - March 2005
Series 2 - April 2006
Series 3 - March 2007
Series 4 - April 2008
2009 Specials
Series 5 - April 2010
Series 6 - April 2011
Series 7-A - Sep 2012
Series 7-B - 2013
That is the pattern. So we are late, as Series 7 has changed from March/April to September, and then not fully aired. So in March/April 2013 series 8 should be starting it's 13 show run but instead we will be getting series 7-B. Series 8 may start airing in September 2013, but you then run into the overlap when series 9 should be starting in March/April 2014.
What?
Who said it did?
In the 24 months following the end of Series 6 there'll have been one series broadcast. Dress it up any way you like, but that's the reality.
So the current Doctor might just possibly squeze ahead in average minutes per day compared with a Doctor who had a handful of specials instead of a final series. But this marginal lead might realistically be lost by the time we get to November?
I'm not quite sure what has been shown. Are we saying that its lucky for the current producers that Tennant didn't make a full last series? That in future all they need do is make 181 minutes per year to satisfy the audience?
What's "rubbish"? I didn't go into minute detail because I don't think it's important. We are getting 14 episode seasons, arent we? Did I dream that?
Spread out over twice the amount of time. But don't worry about minor trivial details like that.
Compare that with 2010 series 5 episode one up to 2012 Christmas special. What does that look like?
You said nothings changed when it quite cleary has.
Historically Doctor Who has 13 episodes a year starting in March/April. This was the case up until 2009 when it was just specials, and true again until this year when the series was put back to the September, and also split into 2, the latter half screening, when series 8 should historically have been starting. Yes we are getting the same number of episodes per series filming wise, but moving it to September and splitting it into 2 is a change.
It could also easily be viewed as series 7 being only 5 episodes long and late, and series 8 only having 8 episodes, as series 7-b is airing when series 8 should be. Obviously it was all filmed at the same time so it's series 7 but the fact remains, we were about 6 months behind when series 7 started, and will be a whole year out of date by the time it finishes. Maybe Series 8 will have an entire 13 episode run in September 2013, but I doubt it.