It's a hell of a thing that this programme is on the BBC.
Its what makes the BBC what it is. There is a danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater here and making out the whole institution is flawed. It isn't. Clearly mistakes were made but the fact the BBC is itself highlighting the issues says a lot about the institution.
I am growing to respect the NN jurno's who really wanted to get the story out. To be shafted like that after they've worked with the victims must have been very hard. I wonder how their careers will be affected. I hope if criminal charges ensue they and the victims will be allowed to give evidence.
If I had a pound for everytime someone said 'I always thought/knew Jimmy Savile was a dirty old man', I could finally afford that rocket ship I wanted.
Everyone "knew", but no-one knew. There wasn't the evidence.
However, the BBC didn't need to have evidence suitable for a conviction in order to just sack him, or quietly not renew his contract. Savile without his slot on the BBC would still have been a dangerous abuser, but it would have cramped his style somewhat, and protected the BBC to an extent. Sacking DJs is hardly difficult: look at the clearout at Radio 1 in the 1990s.
I must admit it was passed on as "common knowledge" during my school days but many didn't want to hear of it.
I can't contemplate the thought of how big the peado ring at the Beeb is/was.
Its almost certainly bigger than the BBC. Saville said in his autobiography he could take half the police station with him.
Certainly people in a position of power and authority were involved - police officers, judges, politicians as well apparently.
There is no way he managed to escape being exposed for all those years without dirt on people sitting in those positions, likely in cahoots with the dirty git.
Its what makes the BBC what it is. There is a danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater here and making out the whole institution is flawed. It isn't. Clearly mistakes were made but the fact the BBC is itself highlighting the issues says a lot about the institution.
corporate damage control? OR distancing themselves from those who knew and did nothing? ( I'm a cynical soul)
I think the Director General is going to have a very hard time tomorrow when he meets the committee. They dont take any prisoners. I wouldnt be surprised if he resigns eventually.
Its almost certainly bigger than the BBC. Saville said in his autobiography he could take half the police station with him.
Certainly people in a position of power and authority were involved - police officers, judges, politicians as well apparently.
There is no way he managed to escape being exposed for all those years without dirt on people sitting in those positions, likely in cahoots with the dirty git.
I'd agree with all that.
Savile was obviously a very, very clever man.
I think the Director General is going to have a very hard time tomorrow when he meets the committee. They dont take any prisoners. I wouldnt be surprised if he resigns eventually.
Why shoud the current DG resign, based on what happened in dressing rooms in the 1970's? the ones that should be being focused on are those that were part of that mangement structure.
Why shoud the current DG resign, based on what happened in dressing rooms in the 1970's? the ones that should be being focused on are those that were part of that mangement structure.
Its more to do with them shelving the Newsnight investigation. I agree he cant be held responsible for what happened back in the 70s but someone obviously chose to show a programme celebrating JSs life rather that what he was actually like.
Oh well they don't do themselves any favours having the tribute for JS with Shane Ritchie in the jim'l fix it chair....after what happened with that young fan and Shane.
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Its what makes the BBC what it is. There is a danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater here and making out the whole institution is flawed. It isn't. Clearly mistakes were made but the fact the BBC is itself highlighting the issues says a lot about the institution.
Everyone "knew", but no-one knew. There wasn't the evidence.
However, the BBC didn't need to have evidence suitable for a conviction in order to just sack him, or quietly not renew his contract. Savile without his slot on the BBC would still have been a dangerous abuser, but it would have cramped his style somewhat, and protected the BBC to an extent. Sacking DJs is hardly difficult: look at the clearout at Radio 1 in the 1990s.
Its almost certainly bigger than the BBC. Saville said in his autobiography he could take half the police station with him.
Certainly people in a position of power and authority were involved - police officers, judges, politicians as well apparently.
There is no way he managed to escape being exposed for all those years without dirt on people sitting in those positions, likely in cahoots with the dirty git.
corporate damage control? OR distancing themselves from those who knew and did nothing? ( I'm a cynical soul)
It makes you wonder if he was part of a pedophile ring.
I'd agree with all that.
Savile was obviously a very, very clever man.
Why shoud the current DG resign, based on what happened in dressing rooms in the 1970's? the ones that should be being focused on are those that were part of that mangement structure.
Its all there online and if you look into it enough names are mentioned.
Definitely there is that, but they are at least bothering and making a very thorough job of it. Which I respect them for. Its very self flagellating!
Its more to do with them shelving the Newsnight investigation. I agree he cant be held responsible for what happened back in the 70s but someone obviously chose to show a programme celebrating JSs life rather that what he was actually like.
I would be seriously worried if I were invoved in any programme (BBC or ITV) in the 70s/80s....
Probably, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg.
There is certainly going to be more coming out about this.
I think we've only heard a quarter of the story. You get the feeling more will come out.
yep,,,,all the 70/80's stars who were involved in this are probably shitting themselves
and it goes on and on..