1. i expect they wouldn't care (as the court findings do not accuse them of it).
2. because I cannot find anyone (apart from forums) that says "Apple faked pictures", all I can find is "Did Apple fake pictures", so libel hasn't taken place.
So the court documents showing the false picture isn't enough for you?
'Did apple fake pictures'? Then you look at the pictures and see that the tablet shown by apple to be the galaxy tablet is actually nothing like the real one, what on earth do you think happened?!!
Or do you think it was an accident. I mean its happened, there's no denying that, so what's your take on it? Deliberate or an accident?
So the court documents showing the false picture isn't enough for you?
I cannot determine whether the pictures have been faked or not. The fact is the "false" (interesting change of term) pictures were not good enough for the court to determine that Apple had "faked" them.
I cannot determine whether the pictures have been faked or not. The fact is the "false" (interesting change of term) pictures were not good enough for the court to determine that Apple had "faked" them.
Why is it an interesting change of term. The meaning is the same in this case
Fact is, apple have submitted false/faked (that better?) evidence. Even a child can see that's not the correct tablet apple claim it to be.
The ban was also lifted soon after. Problem is after that the news on the case dropped.
Now whether anything gets done about this i dont know, but i don't think it matters much since every case apart from the US one has been thrown out. The US one will soon be thrown out as well i would imagine.
Now whether anything gets done about this i dont know, but i don't think it matters much since every case apart from the US one has been thrown out. The US one will soon be thrown out as well i would imagine.
I'll leave this one now and let people (jump) to their own conclusions.
As predicted, it makes a big deal of the "not as cool" finding!
And rather pointedly brings up the fact that similar judgements have gone their way in other countries. I wonder how long that US judgement will stand!
That's going to be interesting to see, especially as they've now lost some of the patents involved. I don't think it will stand on appeal, at least not in its current form.
Ha! We're losers all over the world with these court cases but we did win a case in America where one of the patents has been tentatively dismissed already oh and another in Germany. Sad. Their arrogance is astounding.
Any ordinary company would be delighted their device is considered "cool" and unique with a huge fan base. But they want their cake and eat it. They want to be cool unique AND win because people can't tell their product apart from a rival's.
Kudos to their spin doctors. But given the purpose of the notice is to correct the opinion that Samsung copied, will they get away with prominent mentioning that they've won other cases?
On 9th July 2012 the High Court of Justice of England and Wales ruled that Samsung Electronic(UK) Limited’s Galaxy Tablet Computer, namely the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 8.9 and Tab 7.7 do not infringe Apple’s registered design No. 0000181607-0001. A copy of the full judgment of the Highcourt is available on the following link www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Patents/2012/1882.html.
In the ruling, the judge made several important points comparing the designs of the Apple and Samsung products:
“The extreme simplicity of the Apple design is striking. Overall it has undecorated flat surfaces with a plate of glass on the front all the way out to a very thin rim and a blank back. There is a crisp edge around the rim and a combination of curves, both at the corners and the sides. The design looks like an object the informed user would want to pick up and hold. It is an understated, smooth and simple product. It is a cool design.”
“The informed user’s overall impression of each of the Samsung Galaxy Tablets is the following. From the front they belong to the family which includes the Apple design; but the Samsung products are very thin, almost insubstantial members of that family with unusual details on the back. They do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design. They are not as cool.”
That Judgment has effect throughout the European Union and was upheld by the Court of Appeal on 18 October 2012. A copy of the Court of Appeal’s judgment is available on the following link www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html. There is no injunction in respect of the registered design in force anywhere in Europe.
However, in a case tried in Germany regarding the same patent, the court found that Samsung engaged in unfair competition by copying the iPad design. A U.S. jury also found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple’s design and utility patents, awarding over one billion U.S. dollars in damages to Apple Inc. So while the U.K. court did not find Samsung guilty of infringement, other courts have recognized that in the course of creating its Galaxy tablet, Samsung willfully copied Apple’s far more popular iPad.
On 9th July 2012 the High Court of Justice of England and Wales ruled that Samsung Electronic(UK) Limited’s Galaxy Tablet Computer, namely the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 8.9 and Tab 7.7 do not infringe Apple’s registered design No. 0000181607-0001. A copy of the full judgment of the Highcourt is available on the following link www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Patents/2012/1882.html.
In the ruling, the judge made several important points comparing the designs of the Apple and Samsung products:
“The extreme simplicity of the Apple design is striking. Overall it has undecorated flat surfaces with a plate of glass on the front all the way out to a very thin rim and a blank back. There is a crisp edge around the rim and a combination of curves, both at the corners and the sides. The design looks like an object the informed user would want to pick up and hold. It is an understated, smooth and simple product. It is a cool design.”
“The informed user’s overall impression of each of the Samsung Galaxy Tablets is the following. From the front they belong to the family which includes the Apple design; but the Samsung products are very thin, almost insubstantial members of that family with unusual details on the back. They do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design. They are not as cool.”
That Judgment has effect throughout the European Union and was upheld by the Court of Appeal on 18 October 2012. A copy of the Court of Appeal’s judgment is available on the following link www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html. There is no injunction in respect of the registered design in force anywhere in Europe.
However, in a case tried in Germany regarding the same patent, the court found that Samsung engaged in unfair competition by copying the iPad design. A U.S. jury also found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple’s design and utility patents, awarding over one billion U.S. dollars in damages to Apple Inc. So while the U.K. court did not find Samsung guilty of infringement, other courts have recognized that in the course of creating its Galaxy tablet, Samsung willfully copied Apple’s far more popular iPad.
I think it's hilarious! I was looking forward to seeing what they'd come up with, and this is exactly what I would have expected. They were hardly going to issue a grovelling, humble pie apology when they obviously believe the ruling to be nonsense. Yeah, the iPad had absolutely no influence on Samsung's post-iPad design decisions; t'was all purely coincidental... uh huh, yeah, suuure, riiiiight... <wink wink>
But what's even funnier about this is how it's got all the Apple haters frothing and venting their fury and disgust in a most amusing fashion. Loving it!
I think it's hilarious! I was looking forward to seeing what they'd come up with, and this is exactly what I would have expected. They were hardly going to issue a grovelling, humble pie apology when they obviously believe the ruling to be nonsense. Yeah, the iPad had absolutely no influence on Samsung's post-iPad design decisions; t'was all purely coincidental... uh huh, yeah, suuure, riiiiight... <wink wink>
But what's even funnier about this is how it's got all the Apple haters frothing and venting their fury and disgust in a most amusing fashion. Loving it!
If the boot were on the foot, I would be as amused as you
What happened to the original ruling that the judge dictate the apology to be published, down to the font size used?
I think it's hilarious! I was looking forward to seeing what they'd come up with, and this is exactly what I would have expected. They were hardly going to issue a grovelling, humble pie apology when they obviously believe the ruling to be nonsense. Yeah, the iPad had absolutely no influence on Samsung's post-iPad design decisions; t'was all purely coincidental... uh huh, yeah, suuure, riiiiight... <wink wink>
But what's even funnier about this is how it's got all the Apple haters frothing and venting their fury and disgust in a most amusing fashion. Loving it!
I cant see anyone frothing at all.
All i can see is apple fans gleeing at something that looks like it was written by a 2 year old...
Then again, i expect nothing more these days from them....
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So the court documents showing the false picture isn't enough for you?
'Did apple fake pictures'? Then you look at the pictures and see that the tablet shown by apple to be the galaxy tablet is actually nothing like the real one, what on earth do you think happened?!!
Or do you think it was an accident. I mean its happened, there's no denying that, so what's your take on it? Deliberate or an accident?
I cannot determine whether the pictures have been faked or not. The fact is the "false" (interesting change of term) pictures were not good enough for the court to determine that Apple had "faked" them.
Why is it an interesting change of term. The meaning is the same in this case
Fact is, apple have submitted false/faked (that better?) evidence. Even a child can see that's not the correct tablet apple claim it to be.
The ban was also lifted soon after. Problem is after that the news on the case dropped.
It also appears apple did the same while trying to show the galaxy S was a copy of the 3GS http://webwereld.nl/nieuws/107652/ook-onjuist-bewijs-van-apple-in-nederlandse-zaak.html
Now whether anything gets done about this i dont know, but i don't think it matters much since every case apart from the US one has been thrown out. The US one will soon be thrown out as well i would imagine.
I'll leave this one now and let people (jump) to their own conclusions.
OK, you do that!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20040549
http://www.apple.com/uk/legal-judgement/
As predicted, it makes a big deal of the "not as cool" finding!
As predicted, they printed what the judge said. I assume that is what they were required to do.
I would imagine so, yeah. I wasn't criticising them.
And rather pointedly brings up the fact that similar judgements have gone their way in other countries. I wonder how long that US judgement will stand!
That's going to be interesting to see, especially as they've now lost some of the patents involved. I don't think it will stand on appeal, at least not in its current form.
Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. I'm amazed they haven't been told what to out. They seem to have made a bit of a joke of it.
Any ordinary company would be delighted their device is considered "cool" and unique with a huge fan base. But they want their cake and eat it. They want to be cool unique AND win because people can't tell their product apart from a rival's.
Samsung / Apple UK judgment
On 9th July 2012 the High Court of Justice of England and Wales ruled that Samsung Electronic(UK) Limited’s Galaxy Tablet Computer, namely the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 8.9 and Tab 7.7 do not infringe Apple’s registered design No. 0000181607-0001. A copy of the full judgment of the Highcourt is available on the following link www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Patents/2012/1882.html.
In the ruling, the judge made several important points comparing the designs of the Apple and Samsung products:
“The extreme simplicity of the Apple design is striking. Overall it has undecorated flat surfaces with a plate of glass on the front all the way out to a very thin rim and a blank back. There is a crisp edge around the rim and a combination of curves, both at the corners and the sides. The design looks like an object the informed user would want to pick up and hold. It is an understated, smooth and simple product. It is a cool design.”
“The informed user’s overall impression of each of the Samsung Galaxy Tablets is the following. From the front they belong to the family which includes the Apple design; but the Samsung products are very thin, almost insubstantial members of that family with unusual details on the back. They do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design. They are not as cool.”
That Judgment has effect throughout the European Union and was upheld by the Court of Appeal on 18 October 2012. A copy of the Court of Appeal’s judgment is available on the following link www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html. There is no injunction in respect of the registered design in force anywhere in Europe.
However, in a case tried in Germany regarding the same patent, the court found that Samsung engaged in unfair competition by copying the iPad design. A U.S. jury also found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple’s design and utility patents, awarding over one billion U.S. dollars in damages to Apple Inc. So while the U.K. court did not find Samsung guilty of infringement, other courts have recognized that in the course of creating its Galaxy tablet, Samsung willfully copied Apple’s far more popular iPad.
It's like something a child would write.
But what's even funnier about this is how it's got all the Apple haters frothing and venting their fury and disgust in a most amusing fashion. Loving it!
If the boot were on the foot, I would be as amused as you
What happened to the original ruling that the judge dictate the apology to be published, down to the font size used?
I cant see anyone frothing at all.
All i can see is apple fans gleeing at something that looks like it was written by a 2 year old...
Then again, i expect nothing more these days from them....
You should look further afield than this forum. Pitchforks are being sharpened as we speak.
I do and are yet to see this phenomenon..
Ahh, yes, in hindsight, you probably haven't.
But of course, you will have...