If that was there aim why did they run with the story of a living individual who could sue. They could have dragged out the name of the late Sir Peter Morrison Margaret Thatchers PPS and who was an MP in Chester not far from North wales. He was identified by some of the Bryn Estyn boys as visiting their childrens home and was named as a pederast who had sex with under age boys by no less a person as Edwina Currie in her autobigraphy in 2002. Moreover, Nick Davies had already found evidence that he had been arrested and cautioned by the police for soliciting boys. Morrison In his day he was quite an influential figure and was even deputy Chairman of the Tory party. I am still puzzled how given that open goal the BBC somehow contrived to miss it
Plus what ex-Tory minister Rod Richards said about Morrison in The Mail.
But Newsnight wanted to put something out fast after Tom Watson's claims, and the report was just a rehash of Angus Stickler's (then BBC) investigation.
Doesn't anyone else smell a massive rat regarding Messham? The Newsnight report is clearly now relating to MacAlpine, and so are we to believe that Messham over the past two decades never once looked up a pic of him on the net? Or that Newsnight knowing the explosive nature of these allegations didn't produce some picutures for Messham to verify before going forward??
Doesn't make any sense - he must have been nobbled big time
Statement from Jeremy Paxman - "George Entwistle’s departure is a great shame. He has been brought low by cowards and incompetents.. tbc
"The real problem here is the BBC’s decision, in the wake of the Hutton Inquiry, to play safe by appointing biddable people... tbc
"They then compounded the problem by enforcing a series of cuts on programme budgets, while bloating the management... tbc
"That is how you arrive at the current mess on Newsnight. I very much doubt the problem is unique to that programme... tbc
As Steve Hewlett has said there is open warfare at BBC. Trouble is George went due to his performance in front of general public. The trust figures from the public in terms of BBC output are in freefall & he was a key reason for that.
Ben Bradshaw MP sounding quite emotional about Entwistle's departure, saying he thinks he was pushed (by Government) to resign, and adding that he was very suspicious that immediately after his resignation, Jeremy Hunt put out a statement to say it was the 'right thing to do'.
If that was there aim why did they run with the story of a living individual who could sue. They could have dragged out the name of the late Sir Peter Morrison Margaret Thatchers PPS and who was an MP in Chester not far from North wales. He was identified by some of the Bryn Estyn boys as visiting their childrens home and was named as a pederast who had sex with under age boys by no less a person as Edwina Currie in her autobigraphy in 2002. Moreover, Nick Davies had already found evidence that he had been arrested and cautioned by the police for soliciting boys. Morrison In his day he was quite an influential figure and was even deputy Chairman of the Tory party. I am still puzzled how given that open goal the BBC somehow contrived to miss it
Ben Bradshaw MP sounding quite emotional about Entwistle's departure, saying he thinks he was pushed (by Government) to resign, and adding that he was very suspicious that immediately after his resignation, Jeremy Hunt put out a statement to say it was the 'right thing to do'.
Hunt's replacement, Maria Miller, put out the statement...bet she was guffawing whilst dictating it!
Ben Bradshaw MP sounding quite emotional about Entwistle's departure, saying he thinks he was pushed (by Government) to resign, and adding that he was very suspicious that immediately after his resignation, Jeremy Hunt put out a statement to say it was the 'right thing to do'.
Ben Bradshaw MP sounding quite emotional about Entwistle's departure, saying he thinks he was pushed (by Government) to resign, and adding that he was very suspicious that immediately after his resignation, Jeremy Hunt put out a statement to say it was the 'right thing to do'.
No surprise that a gay Labour minister is immediately chosen by the BBC to do the pro organisation hand wringing. Will be quite ironic when all the Labour party padeophiles are unearthed.
No surprise that a gay Labour minister is immediately chosen by the BBC to do the pro organisation hand wringing. Will be quite ironic when all the Labour party padeophiles are unearthed.
That question has been asked by licence fee haters for many years. The licence fee is actually illegal if you can prove the BBC is a political organisation.
Never a truer word said. They wanted so desperately to implicate the Tories that they lost their heads. I know that sounds ridiculous but I do think it was that simple.
He may not be the most coherent or capable person under pressure but his decency shows in his defence of Steve Messham.
Jeremy Paxman and those who know Entwhistle/have worked with him all seem to be disgusted at the outcome. I would go with their view of him and not the inept creature of ridicule the media is treating him as.
Out of touch. Out of his depth. Out of a job: BBC Director General George Entwistle quits over 'shoddy journalism'
Hours after his humiliation on Radio 4, Director General 'does the
honourable thing' and steps down
"In a hawkish performance, Newsnight's own presenter Eddie Mair raised questions over the show's future on Friday evening, promising only that Newsnight would "probably" be back on Monday.
During Friday's show, which was dedicated to apologising for the Lord McAlpine debacle, Mair asked guests whether the programme was "toast". He also mocked the corporation for not putting anyone up to answer his questions. "Obviously we wanted to ask questions of the BBC, but no one was available for interview," he said. "Trust in the BBC is in the toilet."
Guardian the newspaper arm of BBC were in for the kill as well on this story. They put a massive U-turn in making out they were supporting McAlpine when it became clear they had got it so wrong. Attempt to avoid libel but suspect it may not work.
What complete and utter nonsense... monbiot is very much his own man - his tweet was a gross error of judgement (and he at least had the grace to admit this) - it didn't represent 'Guardian policy'.
And the Guardian is not the 'newspaper arm of the BBC'.
There have been some islands of very good journalism in this business - I'm talking about individuals mainly rather than papers/stations. David Leigh of the Guardian is one; Eileen Fairweather, writing in Daily Mail and Telegraph is another. C4 News also very strong.
He may not be the most coherent or capable person under pressure but his decency shows in his defence of Steve Messham.
Jeremy Paxman and those who know Entwhistle/have worked with him all seem to be disgusted at the outcome. I would go with their view of him and not the inept creature of ridicule the media is treating him as.
The media is creating nothing. He appeared in front of Media Select Committee & somehow managed to make James Murdoch look good in comparison. An achievement I never thought possible. Then today John Humphries a BBC employee took him apart. It seems it is actually this performance that was the final nail in the coffin.
Got to feel for Entwhistle. Neither he, nor anyone else aspiring to the DG role, could have ever guessed that dealing with such a shitstorm, including legacy issues spanning four decades, was going to be part of the job.
Don't suppose in the interview they asked him: 'So, George, can you tell us how you would go about apologising for four decades of cover-ups at Auntie, when the shit hits the fan?"
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Plus what ex-Tory minister Rod Richards said about Morrison in The Mail.
But Newsnight wanted to put something out fast after Tom Watson's claims, and the report was just a rehash of Angus Stickler's (then BBC) investigation.
BIB. Indeed but why should every person by tax be forced to pay for a left wing organisation?
By the way it can't be compared to Fox where rabid is indeed the right word.
Ssssshhhhhhhhh. No common sense please.
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The internet.
Let Your Fingers Do The Talking.
(While you wait for evolution to provide thumbs)
As Steve Hewlett has said there is open warfare at BBC. Trouble is George went due to his performance in front of general public. The trust figures from the public in terms of BBC output are in freefall & he was a key reason for that.
Apologies
But this has been reported already.
Hunt's replacement, Maria Miller, put out the statement...bet she was guffawing whilst dictating it!
Oh the irony. Or should I say the cheek.
No surprise that a gay Labour minister is immediately chosen by the BBC to do the pro organisation hand wringing. Will be quite ironic when all the Labour party padeophiles are unearthed.
What a ridiculous post.
Well this episode is taking it dangerously close.
:rolleyes:
He may not be the most coherent or capable person under pressure but his decency shows in his defence of Steve Messham.
Jeremy Paxman and those who know Entwhistle/have worked with him all seem to be disgusted at the outcome. I would go with their view of him and not the inept creature of ridicule the media is treating him as.
:rolleyes: right back at you.
Hours after his humiliation on Radio 4, Director General 'does the
honourable thing' and steps down
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/out-of-touch-out-of-his-depth-out-of-a-job-bbc-director-general-george-entwistle-quits-over-shoddy-journalism-8303793.html
"In a hawkish performance, Newsnight's own presenter Eddie Mair raised questions over the show's future on Friday evening, promising only that Newsnight would "probably" be back on Monday.
During Friday's show, which was dedicated to apologising for the Lord McAlpine debacle, Mair asked guests whether the programme was "toast". He also mocked the corporation for not putting anyone up to answer his questions. "Obviously we wanted to ask questions of the BBC, but no one was available for interview," he said. "Trust in the BBC is in the toilet."
What complete and utter nonsense... monbiot is very much his own man - his tweet was a gross error of judgement (and he at least had the grace to admit this) - it didn't represent 'Guardian policy'.
And the Guardian is not the 'newspaper arm of the BBC'.
There have been some islands of very good journalism in this business - I'm talking about individuals mainly rather than papers/stations. David Leigh of the Guardian is one; Eileen Fairweather, writing in Daily Mail and Telegraph is another. C4 News also very strong.
Did anyone resign when Chris Jeffries was accused of being a murderer by half the national press?
Still not even a hint that any abuser will be brought to justice
The media is creating nothing. He appeared in front of Media Select Committee & somehow managed to make James Murdoch look good in comparison. An achievement I never thought possible. Then today John Humphries a BBC employee took him apart. It seems it is actually this performance that was the final nail in the coffin.
Don't suppose in the interview they asked him: 'So, George, can you tell us how you would go about apologising for four decades of cover-ups at Auntie, when the shit hits the fan?"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20285096
Looks a pretty impressive CV to me.