Nobody has resigned from the BBC that was directly involved in libelling a former senior Tory as a pedophile. So why should people be expecting resignations from This Morning now?
In the Fr Kevin Reynolds case it took 8 -9 months before anyone resigned.
the OP is playing the lets create a distraction trick - thats what got NewsNight into such trouble in the first place - do these people learn nothing? :rolleyes:
It staggers me to discover Philip Schofield and This Morning's editor (who has ultimate responsibility for the programme's actions) are yet to resign over Schofield ambushing the Prime Minister on live television, with a list of names about whom Internet rumours of paedophilia had been made without evidence.
The stunt would have been bad enough even if the list hadn't been caught on camera.
Hopefully ITV's morals will kick in at some point, but I won't hold my breath. :rolleyes:
You can make that argument about the production team but why should a presenter have to resign for something he may well have been directed to do?
Nobody has resigned from the BBC that was directly involved in libelling a former senior Tory as a pedophile. So why should people be expecting resignations from This Morning now?
Quite right. By analogy, it's Adam Crozier who's job's on the line isn't it?
You can make that argument about the production team but why should a presenter have to resign for something he may well have been directed to do?
That's why there needs to be a proper investigation. If Schofield was directed to do it, who's idea was it? If he wasn't, then what safeguards are there that he or another presenter won't do something similar again? Where are the controls?
That's why there needs to be a proper investigation. If Schofield was directed to do it, who's idea was it? If he wasn't, then what safeguards are there that he or another presenter won't do something similar again? Where are the controls?
Indeed, Schofe was only doing as instructed. It's the post 2009 era This Morning which has tarnished itself week after week with downmarket tosh and now this.
We should praise This Morning for having the balls to ambush such questions on authority. Paxman & Co bottled it..
Why? What response would you be expecting? Take everybody on your list - the one you spent a whole three minutes compiling - out and shoot them? Great justice.
Quite right. By analogy, it's Adam Crozier who's job's on the line isn't it?
The BBC would be better putting its own house in order than chasing other media company ghosts. Havent they learnt nothing from the mess they themselves created by trying to smear their "opponents" in the Conservative Party?
I think the bigger issue is that the BBC is now aligned so strongly with left of centre political thought that longer term it will be unviable as it only identifies with half the population and despises a significant part of society because they dare to question it.
Perhaps the OP can tell us who was defamed by This Morning as I sure as hell cant tell you? Who is suing it? Nobody? Anyone?
Whilst what they did was clumsy and ill thought through it was not on the scale of NewsNights breach of standards
Oh and by the way this was NewsNights 2nd slip up - If we followed the NewsNight example, the first slip up got no one fired.
So just what is the OP up to - he hasnt made a strong case that the "crime" is any way of similar proportion. On that basis, I must conclude he is just trying to distract away from the core issues facing the BBC.
Is this all being blown up out of proportion? it seems that no one could see any names, even when on pause. Was it PS's idea, or was he just following instructions? Was the camera angle just a degree out? At the end of the day he asked if the names on list would be spoken to and investigated, is that not what everyone wanted? If the list is on the internet, then who put it there, one assumes someone from the public, the same public saying it's wrong! and whay is no one saying the cameraman.wonman should go for getting the wrong angle ?
Someone higher than PS, must have thought it was a good idea? which in theory you could argue it was ?
It was still out of order, because effectively he was saying 'Go look on the internet and you can see innocent people being libelled' The fact he may have thought they were guilty is no defence.
It was still out of order, because effectively he was saying 'Go look on the internet and you can see innocent people being libelled' The fact he may have thought they were guilty is no defence.
More out of order was Cameron insinuating gay = pedophile.
We should praise This Morning for having the balls to ambush such questions on authority. Paxman & Co bottled it..
What answer did you expect?
"Yeah, Phil. I know that numbers 2, 3 and 5 on your list are kiddle fiddlers and I've been keeping it a secret for years. You've got me there. Damn you and your investigative journalism skills."
Schofield actually asked "when are you going to interview them". Since when has it been the PM's job to interview alleged child abusers - that's what the police are there for. If Pip found the list after 3 minutes online it's a fair guess that the police have it too.
I think there's other news that has over shadowed this story, which 'this morning' will be delighted about.
Hopefully Scoffy & the 'this morning' team will learn a harsh lesson here.
I would've thought that the pm's team would've went mental at the people on 'this morning' as it was a deplorable thing to do & the fact it was wrong info.
Scoffy is an embarrassment now, he just looks like a tit for doing what he did, there's no taking him seriously or the show for that matter, perhaps change in front & behind the camera is needed.
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It's not as if scandal is new to This Morning. John Leslie had to resign over some serious allegations. However, the show will continue,
You're right. I'm being sarcastic because apparently for ITV Schofield is Mr. Television.
Leslie's resignation was not related to anything that happened on the show.
He resigned because of allegations in the press about his private life.
I don't think he was ever found guilty of anything either was he?
After it all dies down, they just end up presenting an almost identical programme on another channel.
If Schofield was sacked, he'd probably be hosting a new exciting morning magazine on BBC1 within 6 months!
In the Fr Kevin Reynolds case it took 8 -9 months before anyone resigned.
the OP is playing the lets create a distraction trick - thats what got NewsNight into such trouble in the first place - do these people learn nothing? :rolleyes:
You can make that argument about the production team but why should a presenter have to resign for something he may well have been directed to do?
Quite right. By analogy, it's Adam Crozier who's job's on the line isn't it?
That's why there needs to be a proper investigation. If Schofield was directed to do it, who's idea was it? If he wasn't, then what safeguards are there that he or another presenter won't do something similar again? Where are the controls?
Indeed, Schofe was only doing as instructed. It's the post 2009 era This Morning which has tarnished itself week after week with downmarket tosh and now this.
Why? What response would you be expecting? Take everybody on your list - the one you spent a whole three minutes compiling - out and shoot them? Great justice.
Don't be ridiculous.
The BBC would be better putting its own house in order than chasing other media company ghosts. Havent they learnt nothing from the mess they themselves created by trying to smear their "opponents" in the Conservative Party?
I think the bigger issue is that the BBC is now aligned so strongly with left of centre political thought that longer term it will be unviable as it only identifies with half the population and despises a significant part of society because they dare to question it.
Whilst what they did was clumsy and ill thought through it was not on the scale of NewsNights breach of standards
Oh and by the way this was NewsNights 2nd slip up - If we followed the NewsNight example, the first slip up got no one fired.
So just what is the OP up to - he hasnt made a strong case that the "crime" is any way of similar proportion. On that basis, I must conclude he is just trying to distract away from the core issues facing the BBC.
if Philip does go I would like to see Dan Lobb take over!?
Someone higher than PS, must have thought it was a good idea? which in theory you could argue it was ?
Let ITV off, is that what you're saying?
If nobody viewing saw the content (neither Cameron) then how was it libelous?
If anyone gets the sack, probably one of the production crew
More out of order was Cameron insinuating gay = pedophile.
What answer did you expect?
"Yeah, Phil. I know that numbers 2, 3 and 5 on your list are kiddle fiddlers and I've been keeping it a secret for years. You've got me there. Damn you and your investigative journalism skills."
Schofield actually asked "when are you going to interview them". Since when has it been the PM's job to interview alleged child abusers - that's what the police are there for. If Pip found the list after 3 minutes online it's a fair guess that the police have it too.
Hopefully Scoffy & the 'this morning' team will learn a harsh lesson here.
I would've thought that the pm's team would've went mental at the people on 'this morning' as it was a deplorable thing to do & the fact it was wrong info.
Scoffy is an embarrassment now, he just looks like a tit for doing what he did, there's no taking him seriously or the show for that matter, perhaps change in front & behind the camera is needed.