In some ways this is a pointless argument because there may be someone I hate as a comedian - but the person over there may love.
It just comes down to personal taste.
However - I do think that there are some comedians who really arent that funny and wouldnt get any kind of sizeable audience if it wasnt for the boost they get from being favoured by the BBC.
There is definitely a 'BBC' comedian type. They will be liberal/left (and proud of it), achingly PC - they will have the usual hate figures of the left as regular targets (Daily Mail/Margaret Thatcher etc) and will spout the kind of stuff that BBC producers love to hear. (pro climate change, anti israel etc)
i don't think Radio 4 could function without their repertory company of comedians.There is seldom a day goes by without one of these BBC types turning up either on Radio 4/Radio 5/BBC 2/BBC 3 or in some cases BBC 1
Two obvious examples are Jeremy Hardy and Marcus Brigstocke.
They are on every panel show you can think of (especially Brigstocke) And both have been given their own shows.
Whilst these BBC type comedians do have an audience - they are given a much bigger profile and hence audience than I think they would ever get if they weren't nurtured by the BBC.
So whilst there are comedians who can command big audiences on their own (McIntyre. Kay Boyle etc) and have broad appeal on their own. There are definitely a sub set of comedians who only really exist because they are favoured by the BBC who give them both regular work and a profile far above what they could achieve on their own.
In some ways this is a pointless argument because there may be someone I hate as a comedian - but the person over there may love.
It just comes down to personal taste.
However - I do think that there are some comedians who really arent that funny and wouldnt get any kind of sizeable audience if it wasnt for the boost they get from being favoured by the BBC.
There is definitely a 'BBC' comedian type. They will be liberal/left (and proud of it), achingly PC - they will have the usual hate figures of the left as regular targets (Daily Mail/Margaret Thatcher etc) and will spout the kind of stuff that BBC producers love to hear. (pro climate change, anti israel etc)
i don't think Radio 4 could function without their repertory company of comedians.There is seldom a day goes by without one of these BBC types turning up either on Radio 4/Radio 5/BBC 2/BBC 3 or in some cases BBC 1
Two obvious examples are Jeremy Hardy and Marcus Brigstocke.
They are on every panel show you can think of (especially Brigstocke) And both have been given their own shows.
Whilst these BBC type comedians do have an audience - they are given a much bigger profile and hence audience than I think they would ever get if they weren't nurtured by the BBC.
So whilst there are comedians who can command big audiences on their own (McIntyre. Kay Boyle etc) and have broad appeal on their own. There are definitely a sub set of comedians who only really exist because they are favoured by the BBC who give them both regular work and a profile far above what they could achieve on their own.
The above is a heap of drivel (with particular regard to the comments on messrs Hardy and Brigstock).
I think the only thing that this thread is showing is that rather like music comedy is a very individual thing. Some you like some you don't. I would suggest this has always been the case and if I do not like someone I do not watch them. I never could stand Eric & Ernie to me overpaid tripe to others comedy gold. I could list a long list of past and present comedians that I din't appreciate or like but what's the point really. I could of course also list a long list of those I do like but to what ends. The TV companies will get the message if enough people switch off when a particular comedian doesn't cut it viewing figure wise they will not get the message if you just whine on here but then still watch.
In some ways this is a pointless argument because there may be someone I hate as a comedian - but the person over there may love.
It just comes down to personal taste.
However - I do think that there are some comedians who really arent that funny and wouldnt get any kind of sizeable audience if it wasnt for the boost they get from being favoured by the BBC.
There is definitely a 'BBC' comedian type. They will be liberal/left (and proud of it), achingly PC - they will have the usual hate figures of the left as regular targets (Daily Mail/Margaret Thatcher etc) and will spout the kind of stuff that BBC producers love to hear. (pro climate change, anti israel etc)
i don't think Radio 4 could function without their repertory company of comedians.There is seldom a day goes by without one of these BBC types turning up either on Radio 4/Radio 5/BBC 2/BBC 3 or in some cases BBC 1
Two obvious examples are Jeremy Hardy and Marcus Brigstocke.
They are on every panel show you can think of (especially Brigstocke) And both have been given their own shows.
Whilst these BBC type comedians do have an audience - they are given a much bigger profile and hence audience than I think they would ever get if they weren't nurtured by the BBC.
So whilst there are comedians who can command big audiences on their own (McIntyre. Kay Boyle etc) and have broad appeal on their own. There are definitely a sub set of comedians who only really exist because they are favoured by the BBC who give them both regular work and a profile far above what they could achieve on their own.
Yeah, typical Radio Bore comedian, middle class, Guardian reader, has a set of metropolitan in jokes no one else finds amusing, presents shows that are practically ignored by everyone else except Radio Bore listeners who find the humour superior to that by John Bishop.
In some ways this is a pointless argument because there may be someone I hate as a comedian - but the person over there may love.
It just comes down to personal taste.
However - I do think that there are some comedians who really arent that funny and wouldnt get any kind of sizeable audience if it wasnt for the boost they get from being favoured by the BBC.
There is definitely a 'BBC' comedian type. They will be liberal/left (and proud of it), achingly PC - they will have the usual hate figures of the left as regular targets (Daily Mail/Margaret Thatcher etc) and will spout the kind of stuff that BBC producers love to hear. (pro climate change, anti israel etc)
i don't think Radio 4 could function without their repertory company of comedians.There is seldom a day goes by without one of these BBC types turning up either on Radio 4/Radio 5/BBC 2/BBC 3 or in some cases BBC 1
Two obvious examples are Jeremy Hardy and Marcus Brigstocke.
They are on every panel show you can think of (especially Brigstocke) And both have been given their own shows.
Whilst these BBC type comedians do have an audience - they are given a much bigger profile and hence audience than I think they would ever get if they weren't nurtured by the BBC.
So whilst there are comedians who can command big audiences on their own (McIntyre. Kay Boyle etc) and have broad appeal on their own. There are definitely a sub set of comedians who only really exist because they are favoured by the BBC who give them both regular work and a profile far above what they could achieve on their own.
Hmm intersting way of explaining how comedians who aren't to your personal taste have a career. Or perhaps a lot of other people do find them funny. Certainly both the comedians you have mentioned are extremely quick witted whether you enjoy them or not.
By all means tell us who you think is a a waste of space, but spare us the Daily Mail conspiracy theories please.
Yeah, typical Radio Bore comedian, middle class, Guardian reader, has a set of metropolitan in jokes no one else finds amusing, presents shows that are practically ignored by everyone else except Radio Bore listeners who find the humour superior to that by John Bishop.
My dad listens to Radio 4. And he is about as far away politicaly from a Guardian reader as you can get . Also the person who mentioned Marcus Brigstocke would definetley not say he is left wing.
My dad listens to Radio 4. And he is about as far away politicaly from a Guardian reader as you can get . Also the person who mentioned Marcus Brigstocke would definetley not say he is left wing.
No, I was referring to their so called comedy shows, which are pretentious drivel and about as funny as flu.
There are plenty of comedians I don't see the appeal of (Hart, McIntyre, Whitehall, Jupitus, the list goes on and on). But I can just about, ever-so-vaguely see what people find funny about them - even if I completely disagree.
And there's Andy Parsons. Who just isn't funny. On any level. Whatsoever. At all.
Russell Brand how this guy ever made it to do anything is beyond me he's unfunny can't act and is a pretty unpleasant person all around.
As I was telling a American a few weeks ago who was wondering why he is now in the US "You wanted him now you can keep him we certainly don't want him back"
There is definitely a 'BBC' comedian type. They will be liberal/left (and proud of it), achingly PC - they will have the usual hate figures of the left as regular targets (Daily Mail/Margaret Thatcher etc) and will spout the kind of stuff that BBC producers love to hear. (pro climate change, anti israel etc)
Does that mean there's a band of right wing Guardian bashing, pro Israel, climate change denying comedians being kept off air? Apart from Jim Davidson. Maybe right wingers aren't (intentionally) very funny.
Did Frankie Boyle apologise for some of the things he said to people btw?
No. No he didn't.
I watched the Last Days of Sodom dvd last night; what he says about Jordan at the end of it probably couldn't be repeated here. He puts up a good argument defending himself mind.
I watched the Last Days of Sodom dvd last night; what he says about Jordan at the end of it probably couldn't be repeated here. He puts up a good argument defending himself mind.
Is that the one where he said something about her disabled son
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It just comes down to personal taste.
However - I do think that there are some comedians who really arent that funny and wouldnt get any kind of sizeable audience if it wasnt for the boost they get from being favoured by the BBC.
There is definitely a 'BBC' comedian type. They will be liberal/left (and proud of it), achingly PC - they will have the usual hate figures of the left as regular targets (Daily Mail/Margaret Thatcher etc) and will spout the kind of stuff that BBC producers love to hear. (pro climate change, anti israel etc)
i don't think Radio 4 could function without their repertory company of comedians.There is seldom a day goes by without one of these BBC types turning up either on Radio 4/Radio 5/BBC 2/BBC 3 or in some cases BBC 1
Two obvious examples are Jeremy Hardy and Marcus Brigstocke.
They are on every panel show you can think of (especially Brigstocke) And both have been given their own shows.
Whilst these BBC type comedians do have an audience - they are given a much bigger profile and hence audience than I think they would ever get if they weren't nurtured by the BBC.
So whilst there are comedians who can command big audiences on their own (McIntyre. Kay Boyle etc) and have broad appeal on their own. There are definitely a sub set of comedians who only really exist because they are favoured by the BBC who give them both regular work and a profile far above what they could achieve on their own.
The above is a heap of drivel (with particular regard to the comments on messrs Hardy and Brigstock).
Al Murray are the ones that make me change channel.
Not keen on John Bishop either.
Keith Lemon
Yeah, typical Radio Bore comedian, middle class, Guardian reader, has a set of metropolitan in jokes no one else finds amusing, presents shows that are practically ignored by everyone else except Radio Bore listeners who find the humour superior to that by John Bishop.
Thanks for reminding me - those twatty meerkats are SO not funny!!
Hmm intersting way of explaining how comedians who aren't to your personal taste have a career. Or perhaps a lot of other people do find them funny. Certainly both the comedians you have mentioned are extremely quick witted whether you enjoy them or not.
By all means tell us who you think is a a waste of space, but spare us the Daily Mail conspiracy theories please.
No, I was referring to their so called comedy shows, which are pretentious drivel and about as funny as flu.
James Corden
Ricky Gervais
That Irish guy who dresses up as Mrs Brown.
And there's Andy Parsons. Who just isn't funny. On any level. Whatsoever. At all.
Jason Manford
Rhod Gilbert
Jack Whitehall
Michael McIntyre.
Heh, his name is Simon Brodkin, he used to be a doctor, as did Harry Hill.
Lenny Henry,
James Corden,
John Bishop,
Frank Skinner,
Katy Brand,
Jason Manford
As I was telling a American a few weeks ago who was wondering why he is now in the US "You wanted him now you can keep him we certainly don't want him back"
Does that mean there's a band of right wing Guardian bashing, pro Israel, climate change denying comedians being kept off air? Apart from Jim Davidson. Maybe right wingers aren't (intentionally) very funny.
Well, this proves the point - it was actually spot on .... in my view! :rolleyes:
Lee Nelson was the only funny part of Al Murray's dire MultiPersonality Breakdown - his chav was just excellent.
Eh? We always find Russell Howard's Good News to be a very funny show.
So-called comedians we can do without include;
John Bishop
Ricky Gervais
Michael McIntyre
Keith Lemon
All of them slightly less funny than getting your winkle caught in a zip. :eek:
The thread title is Comedians who should be kicked off our screens ?Is Lenny Henry a comedian because, if he is, it is news to me?:D
No. No he didn't.
I watched the Last Days of Sodom dvd last night; what he says about Jordan at the end of it probably couldn't be repeated here. He puts up a good argument defending himself mind.
Is that the one where he said something about her disabled son