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EE - Has anyone noticed how drastically the show has changed from mid-2006 onwards?
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For me, the whole feel of EastEnders changed from 2006 onwards and I can't put my finger on what changed. I think it's got something to do with the mass exodus of the cast at the end of 2005.
Does anyone else feel like the show and it's overall feel changed drastically from this point onwards?
Does anyone else feel like the show and it's overall feel changed drastically from this point onwards?
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its the gripping gritty excitment factor, up until then eastenders was gritty dangerous quite fast paced now adays we get long continous storys about love affairs:rolleyes:
these days,it is just a bore,with kat slater - the local **** :D:D
- There are no Fowler's in the show. Would be great if Mark hadn't died and Martin was still around.
- Too many popular characters left at the end of 2005. The only good things about 2006 were Get Johnny Week and the aftermath with Grant and Phil looking after Jake Moon.
- Very few references to the past and too many long serving characters have gone.
2006 was pretty much a transition period of EE due to these departures which changed the structure of the show and who was focused upon. Now, back in the frame was a smaller Mitchell unit - and without any female (mainly Sharon) to build storyline material for Phil, the introduction of Ben occurred. Plus we had the introduction of the Foxes, and the Brannings. 2010 was arguably a transition period as well. Peggy left, which has left an almighty whole in the Mitchell family as the strength of EE and it has never recovered.
Ronnie's character began to really float through the motions after a successful two years, Stacey's character became incredibly boring and redundant without Bradley, and 2010 really was the year when the decline started. One of the good things about 2006 was that at least TPTB identified it as a transition year to help deal with the amount of departures from 2005. TPTB didn't even recognise 2010 as a transition year and tried to compensate the important departures from EE by adding more Brannings and Moons, rather than new families.
Completely agree. I watched EE yesterday for the first time since Stacey left and it just feels flat and empty. There's no spark excitement, or anything fresh and new to draw me in. New families have been needed for absolutely ages. We need a fresh new Max & Tanya, and family like the Slaters, The Brannings need to go, or at least be in the background for the next few years.
Epic!
2008 made Max and Tanya's simply beyond believable. I cannot believe that Max would entertain a relationship with a woman who tried to kill him. I cannot believe Tanya, would actually see killing Max as a genuine solution to all her woes. I cannot believe that Max breaking up Lauren/Peter would be the catalyst for Lauren's attempt on his life. Ronnie became a character with a good backstory, to just a parody. Seeing her self-destruct and pity herself became quite jarring after a while. Her character was essentially in the same mood forever. Mad May's return seemed a bit pointless tbh as well. The Live ep, in reality was a let-down. - the Brannings in a manic state, with one of their more tolerable members dying branded a murder and the Stacey sympathy story continuing. The 20th edition, in 2005 was far better.
I agree with all of this^
LMAO this!! :D
...and is now back with Derek!
I heard they're bringing in Matt Dalton (Dalton's nephew/son) who kidnaps Denny as revenge for what Dennis did to his dad/uncle.
Phil smashes up the Imperial Rooms (which Matt now owns) then burns it down, not realising that Denny was locked up in the office. Phil and Sharon find out and they go inside the burning building to get him out (Joey is there for some reason, maybe cause he reminds Matt of what Dalton told him of Dennis and there's some kind of connection which later leads to an affair, but that's later...). Joey pulls Denny to safety but Denny's inhaled too much smoke, leaving him brain damaged (Joey, already being damaged goods through shacking up with his sister, isn't affected).
Phil tries to pin the fire on Joey but Jay grasses him up, sending him down for however many years Steve McFadden wants off. He ends up in the same nick as Ben and the last we see of Phil is him being beaten to a pulp by five hardened crims as Ben (played by Charlie Jones) looks on.
That's what I heard, at least...:cool:
Ones that come to mind for most people I guess: Baby Swap (though I didn't think it was that bad tbh),
Kat's recent shagger story,
Introduction of more and more Brannings
Just some there.
Your welcome
I really liked Ronnie, so I didn't mind the sl that much. People went OTT (imo).
Yes indeed, from 2006 onwards EE degenerated considerably and tipped over into melodrama (American style) with an emphasis on caricatural types and sensational storylines revolving around paternity and romance.
From what I have read about the European soap landscape, this 'dumbing down' (synonymous with Americanisation) is a general trend (national soaps losing their cultural identity).
A very sad development, particularly since I always admired EE for engaging elaborately with social issues and the complexity of its characters.
bib you forgot the introduction of more moons aswell, the god awful eddie and his 2 twit sons who were and I quote "suppose to be the new alpha males lol:D" all shoved down our throats during the majority of 2011.
I think those years were the Gangster years,
the last of the hard men got killed off in that year, so thats what you probably are thinking of.
Dennis, Johnny, Andy, Grant, made 2003-6