DOND has been below 1m (inc +1) before: on several occasions during the Olympics but also on 14 September 2012 (there may be others; I just looked back a few months.) It's still a bad rating and it would be worrying for C4 if it stayed below 1m consistently.
Thanks. I meant on a regular weekday. Not the first time then. I suppose yesterday's rating looks worse because you expect the current weather to be boosting daytime TV audiences if anything.
It's great isn't it. My worry is that the schedule will get allot weaker. Okay with the return of the voice that will prop Saturday nights up and they still have a steady performer in Masterchef. Silk gets pretty good numbers that back.
Drama wise BBC One has some how found loads of really good returning dramas. I also forgot they have 8 Doctor Who Episodes to air in the spring so BBC One is strong this year I think.
Last Tango and Sherlock later in the year. The Apprentice. Looking at those numbers the last time BBC One was that strong at 9 pm was the Olympics.
What's interesting for me this year is how will BBC ones audience share go. Okay they are going to be down on last year but if they can stay above 2011 I think that is a huge result. With this start it's possible. Lack of Kids TV will help as well.
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What's amazing is that BBC1 has consistently won the flagship slot 6 nights a week since before xmas and should continue to do so until the start of February; it could get a clean sweep if Selfridge continues to decline and CTM gives Ripper a boost.
Unprecedented really, even since BBC1 became the most watched channel.
DOND has been below 1m (inc +1) before: on several occasions during the Olympics but also on 14 September 2012 (there may be others; I just looked back a few months.) It's still a bad rating and it would be worrying for C4 if it stayed below 1m consistently.
The trouble is C4 don't seem to be worrying about ratings dipping under 1m across the board - indeed their whole creative renewal process seems to have been about replacing shows which got 2m+ with ones that get less than 1m. Hopefully the recent scare with advertisers will finally get them to buck up their ideas.
Big launching DOI and two high rating FA Cup matches. This season's FA Cup matches were way down on last year (more than half), DOI launch was down, no Wild at Heart too!
Adults 16-34 - Thursday 16th January 2013 BBC One
09:15 - Wanted Down Under: 111k (11.0%)
10:00 - Homes Under the Hammer: 128k (10.5%)
11:00 - BBC News Special: 112k (9.1%)
11:30 - The Sheriffs Are Coming: 142k (12.3%)
12:15 - Bargain Hunt: 149k (12.6%)
13:00 - BBC News at One: 217k (16.3%)
13:30 - BBC Regional News: 267k (20.1%)
13:45 - Doctors: 131k (9.2%)
14:15 - Father Brown: 65k (5.1%)
15:00 - Escape to the Country: 60k (4.5%)
15:45 - Perfection: 98k (6.2%)
16:30 - Antiques Road Trip: 96k (5.1%)
17:15 - Pointless: 176k (7.5%)
ITV1
09:30 - The Jeremy Kyle Show: 321k (29.3%)
10:30 - This Morning: 264k (21.9%)
12:30 - Loose Women: 142k (11.2%)
13:30 - ITV News and Weather: 112k (8.2%)
14:00 - Storage Hoarders: 117k (8.8%)
15:00 - Dickinson's Real Deal: 118k (8.7%)
16:00 - Tipping Point: 184k (10.7%)
17:00 - The Chase: 236k (10.7%)
Channel 4
14;45 - Countdown: 10k (0.8%)
Interesting that while BBC1 usually edges the daytime ratings against ITV, ITV are out in front in the important 16-34 demographic, so they must be doing something right.
BBC1's afternoons are particularly old skewing. Notice how young skewing The Jeremy Kyle Show is as well!
Countdown's rating is awful,it used to be a students staple, I doubt any students even know what it is thesedays.
The trouble is C4 don't seem to be worrying about ratings dipping under 1m across the bored - indeed their whole creative renewal process seems to have been about replacing shows which got 2m+ with ones that get less than 1m. Hopefully the recent scare with advertisers will finally get them to buck up their ideas.
Wrong spelling, but ironically, viewers are getting bored with C4.
They've axed Gypsy Weddings, there highest rating show last year. They will hope to have one-off successes like The Plane Crash and the programme about The Queen's family (which I can't remember the name of). So far, they have two shows over 3m mark, One Born Every Minute and (I'm pretty sure) The Undateables second ep.
Interesting that while BBC1 usually edges the daytime ratings against ITV, ITV are out in front in the important 16-34 demographic, so they must be doing something right.
BBC1's afternoons are particularly old skewing. Notice how young skewing The Jeremy Kyle Show is as well!
Countdown's rating is awful,it used to be a students staple, I doubt any students even know what it is thesedays.
Kind of reinforces the popular opinion that BBC serves the retired while ITV, and Jeremy Kyle in particular, serves the unemployed.
Here is how BBC One and ITV1 performed in the first full BARB week (7th to 13th January) versus previous years (all overnights inc +1 and HD):
BBC One
2006 - 23.1% (2nd to 8th January)
2007 - 23.2% (1st to 7th January)
2008 - 21.4% (7th to 13th January)
2009 - 20.6% (5th to 11th January)
2010 - 21.2% (4th to 10th January)
2011 - 20.8% (3rd to 9th January) hI
2012 - 20.4% (2nd to 8th January)
2013 - 21.3% (7th to 13th January)
ITV1
2006 - 20.9% (2nd to 8th January)
2007 - 18.0% (1st to 7th January)
2008 - 20.6% (7th to 13th January)
2009 - 19.4% (5th to 11th January)
2010 - 18.1% (4th to 10th January)
2011 - 17.2% (3rd to 9th January)
2012 - 18.6% (2nd to 8th January)
2013 - 17.4% (7th to 13th January)
The BBC1 shares are more impressive given that, at least on these numbers, every "ITV1 hour" counts for double every "BBC1 hour".
No only does augmentation boost ITV's percentage, the double whammy is that the +1 inclusive figures mean BBC1's share gets nipped down from what it actually was.
How anyone who doesn't work for ITV or in advertising can call this fair is beyond me....
The BBC1 shares are more impressive given that, at least on these numbers, every "ITV1 hour" counts for double every "BBC1 hour".
No only does augmentation boost ITV's percentage, the double whammy is that the +1 inclusive figures mean BBC1's share gets nipped down from what it actually was.
How anyone who doesn't work for ITV or in advertising can call this fair is beyond me....
Yeah, yeah we get it Robbie. You have a problem with +1. Maybe its time to get over it though. They've had it for just over 2 years now.
Good balance aswell on bbc1, a night of comedy, a factual and 4 nights of brand new drama!!! Yes all crime drama but ranging from light to dark, and regular police procedure!!
Thanks
Surprised to see DonD at such a low rating on that demo
So basically Come Dine with Me and The Simpsons are the only profitable shows in daytime on C4.
The BBC1 shares are more impressive given that, at least on these numbers, every "ITV1 hour" counts for double every "BBC1 hour".
No only does augmentation boost ITV's percentage, the double whammy is that the +1 inclusive figures mean BBC1's share gets nipped down from what it actually was.
How anyone who doesn't work for ITV or in advertising can call this fair is beyond me....
So the BBC One share doesn't include VODSAL then???
The trouble is C4 don't seem to be worrying about ratings dipping under 1m across the board - indeed their whole creative renewal process seems to have been about replacing shows which got 2m+ with ones that get less than 1m. Hopefully the recent scare with advertisers will finally get them to buck up their ideas.
And shows that trend on Twitter! Don't forget that one. :yawn:
Yeah, yeah we get it Robbie. You have aa problem with +1. Maybe its time to get over it though. They've had it for just over 2 years now.
So because you've "won" I've got to shut up and not point out the ludicrousness of it?
So if BBC1 scores an actual 20 in a given hour, not only does it have to sit and watch ITV lump on some extra % through a repeat hour on another channel, it ends up with 19.7 for good measure because ITV counts twice.
Madness!
I'll keep banging on about it Roscoe, don't you worry about that. If you don't like it, then either lump it or add me to your Ignore List.
Interesting that while BBC1 usually edges the daytime ratings against ITV, ITV are out in front in the important 16-34 demographic, so they must be doing something right.
BBC1's afternoons are particularly old skewing. Notice how young skewing The Jeremy Kyle Show is as well!
Countdown's rating is awful,it used to be a students staple, I doubt any students even know what it is thesedays.
I do think Countdown's days are numbered (see what I did there?)... It was always such a staple because of its consistency and the ironic enjoyment of Richard Whiteley's avuncular persona. The show s now showing the law of diminishing returns - the revolving door of presenters in recent years has harmed the brand, and Nick Hewer lacks the warmth which was a unique aspect of the show's past success.
DOND has been below 1m (inc +1) before: on several occasions during the Olympics but also on 14 September 2012 (there may be others; I just looked back a few months.) It's still a bad rating and it would be worrying for C4 if it stayed below 1m consistently.
Thanks. I meant on a regular weekday. Not the first time then. I suppose yesterday's rating looks worse because you expect the current weather to be boosting daytime TV audiences if anything.
That's the scary thing about Deal Or No Deal's rating. Under 1m for a regular episode. If alarm bells aren't ringing at Channel 4 they should be!
So because you've "won" I've got to shut up and not point out the ludicrousness of it?
So if BBC1 scores an actual 20 in a given hour, not only does it have to sit and watch ITV lump on some extra % through a repeat hour on another channel, it ends up with 19.7 for good measure because ITV counts twice.
Madness!
I'll keep banging on about it Roscoe, don't you worry about that. If you don't like it, then either lump it or add me to your Ignore List.
Yep, and I'm right with you Robbie. The Chase for instance is winning over Pointless WHEN you add on +1. But when the two shows are head to head Pointless often beats it.
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What's amazing is that BBC1 has consistently won the flagship slot 6 nights a week since before xmas and should continue to do so until the start of February; it could get a clean sweep if Selfridge continues to decline and CTM gives Ripper a boost.
Unprecedented really, even since BBC1 became the most watched channel.
BBC One
2006 - 23.1% (2nd to 8th January)
2007 - 23.2% (1st to 7th January)
2008 - 21.4% (7th to 13th January)
2009 - 20.6% (5th to 11th January)
2010 - 21.2% (4th to 10th January)
2011 - 20.8% (3rd to 9th January)
2012 - 20.4% (2nd to 8th January)
2013 - 21.3% (7th to 13th January)
ITV1
2006 - 20.9% (2nd to 8th January)
2007 - 18.0% (1st to 7th January)
2008 - 20.6% (7th to 13th January)
2009 - 19.4% (5th to 11th January)
2010 - 18.1% (4th to 10th January)
2011 - 17.2% (3rd to 9th January)
2012 - 18.6% (2nd to 8th January)
2013 - 17.4% (7th to 13th January)
Seems way off the trend.
Big launching DOI and two high rating FA Cup matches. This season's FA Cup matches were way down on last year (more than half), DOI launch was down, no Wild at Heart too!
Interesting that while BBC1 usually edges the daytime ratings against ITV, ITV are out in front in the important 16-34 demographic, so they must be doing something right.
BBC1's afternoons are particularly old skewing. Notice how young skewing The Jeremy Kyle Show is as well!
Countdown's rating is awful,it used to be a students staple, I doubt any students even know what it is thesedays.
Wrong spelling, but ironically, viewers are getting bored with C4.
They've axed Gypsy Weddings, there highest rating show last year. They will hope to have one-off successes like The Plane Crash and the programme about The Queen's family (which I can't remember the name of). So far, they have two shows over 3m mark, One Born Every Minute and (I'm pretty sure) The Undateables second ep.
and students and housewives and stay at home mums.
The BBC1 shares are more impressive given that, at least on these numbers, every "ITV1 hour" counts for double every "BBC1 hour".
No only does augmentation boost ITV's percentage, the double whammy is that the +1 inclusive figures mean BBC1's share gets nipped down from what it actually was.
How anyone who doesn't work for ITV or in advertising can call this fair is beyond me....
Perhaps we should only regard as "flagship" the dwindling number of slots that ITV still does well in....
Yeah, yeah we get it Robbie. You have a problem with +1. Maybe its time to get over it though. They've had it for just over 2 years now.
They've been 'doing well' at 9pm on many days anyway. Its just that BBC1 have been doing a bit better.
And more importantly no light factual at 9pm!!!
Surprised to see DonD at such a low rating on that demo
So basically Come Dine with Me and The Simpsons are the only profitable shows in daytime on C4.
So the BBC One share doesn't include VODSAL then???
And shows that trend on Twitter! Don't forget that one. :yawn:
But only people who actually watched BBC1....
+1 viewing IS NOT TIMESHIFTING!
So because you've "won" I've got to shut up and not point out the ludicrousness of it?
So if BBC1 scores an actual 20 in a given hour, not only does it have to sit and watch ITV lump on some extra % through a repeat hour on another channel, it ends up with 19.7 for good measure because ITV counts twice.
Madness!
I'll keep banging on about it Roscoe, don't you worry about that. If you don't like it, then either lump it or add me to your Ignore List.
I do think Countdown's days are numbered (see what I did there?)... It was always such a staple because of its consistency and the ironic enjoyment of Richard Whiteley's avuncular persona. The show s now showing the law of diminishing returns - the revolving door of presenters in recent years has harmed the brand, and Nick Hewer lacks the warmth which was a unique aspect of the show's past success.
That's the scary thing about Deal Or No Deal's rating. Under 1m for a regular episode. If alarm bells aren't ringing at Channel 4 they should be!
Yep, and I'm right with you Robbie. The Chase for instance is winning over Pointless WHEN you add on +1. But when the two shows are head to head Pointless often beats it.
Yes it is - they're still viewers who watched the same night before 2am.