I was thinking that too. This thread is massive!!
Regarding CBB, interesting show and the forum is the busiest I have seen since launch night. Not sure what that will do for ratings though. Maybe a high +1 showing.
I was thinking that too. This thread is massive!!
Regarding CBB, interesting show and the forum is the busiest I have seen since launch night. Not sure what that will do for ratings though. Maybe a high +1 showing.
Isn't it Miranda/MBB night tonight? Doubt it'll go over 2.2.
It wasn't an ITV dig! It was just a point that this thread has been going so long, and like ITV have just unveiled a new look, this thread needs a refresh too!
Brilliant episode of Celebrity Big Brother tonight. Definitely will go down as a classic. Hopefully that's reflected in the ratings! I can imagine a hefty +1 considering the 9pm competition.
Talking of old ratings and the effects they've had on people's opinions of BBC One and ITV, I can remember looking at BARB Top 30s for BBC1 and ITV in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and they were rather one-sided. In the autumn and winter, it was perfectly normal for all the programmes in the ITV Top 30 to be over 10m! BBC1 would normally have around 15 shows with 10m+ ratings in a single week at those times of year. By the bottom of the Top 30, BBC1 would usually be well under 8m in autumn/winter.
In summer, sometimes, if it was hot, only the two episodes of EastEnders and five of Neighbours would be over 10m.
Here's a statement from Big Brother regarding Rylan:
It was agreed before Rylan entered the Big Brother House that he would be allowed to rehearse for his tour twice on-site with a choreographer. This was agreed on the strict understanding that he was not allowed to discuss events in the Big Brother House with anyone during such rehearsal periods. Rylan was escorted by a Big Brother producer at all times during rehearsal to ensure full compliance.
Here's a statement from Big Brother regarding Rylan:
It was agreed before Rylan entered the Big Brother House that he would be allowed to rehearse for his tour twice on-site with a choreographer. This was agreed on the strict understanding that he was not allowed to discuss events in the Big Brother House with anyone during such rehearsal periods. Rylan was escorted by a Big Brother producer at all times during rehearsal to ensure full compliance.
Doesn't explain why they covered it up for three weeks.
Talking of old ratings and the effects they've had on people's opinions of BBC One and ITV, I can remember looking at BARB Top 30s for BBC1 and ITV in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and they were rather one-sided. In the autumn and winter, it was perfectly normal for all the programmes in the ITV Top 30 to be over 10m! BBC1 would normally have around 15 shows with 10m+ ratings in a single week at those times of year. By the bottom of the Top 30, BBC1 would usually be well under 8m in autumn/winter.
In summer, sometimes, if it was hot, only the two episodes of EastEnders and five of Neighbours would be over 10m.
It was usually worse than that for BBC1. It was rarely better than 5 or 6 over 10m after the 7 episodes of the soaps, whereas ITV had several over 10m nearly every night of the week. I do indeed remember ITV getting a full sweep of 10m ratings all the way down to 30.
BBC1 only ever got 10m ratings on the second page of its top 30 in Christmas week and that was never a given.
Oh I do wish Barb would let Mike upload those missing years of ratings.....
It wasn't an ITV dig! It was just a point that this thread has been going so long, and like ITV have just unveiled a new look, this thread needs a refresh too!
Ahh yeah, don't watch ITV so had almost forgotten that monstrosity.
Doesn't explain why they covered it up for three weeks.
Bit On The Side handled it superbly well and exposed it for the non-issue that it really is. Two rehearsals, on site, with a producer accompanying him, and no non-rehearsal related contact allowed. That was it. The Great Big Cover Up has bored me to death today. But tomorrow is a new day and the show will go on, even if I don't make it.
P.S. Apparently it was first revealed in Star Magazine - a Richard Desmond publication - last week. Oops! Not such a big cover up after all.
Dancing on Ice's ratings are NOT their worst ever.
They're very close to the worst ever. The main programme's overnight of 6.96m (26.6%) exc +1 ranks as the second-lowest-rated Sunday performance show ever (the worst being 19 February last year with 6.80m (28.0%) exc +1.) Even including Saturdays (the day the show aired in the first two series) it's the third-worst rating and share ever. Including +1 doesn't improve matters.
Looking at the results show, last night's 5.33m (exc +1) / 5.54m (inc +1) was the lowest ever rating (Saturday or Sunday) for a non-repeat, regular show.
It'll be interesting to see whether the drop for Mr Selfridge carries over to the timeshift audience or not. Didn't episode 1 timeshift by about 1.5 million (excluding +1)? Or have I just completely made that figure up?
Mr Selfridge, ep 1 (6.1.13) [exc +1]
Overnight (timeslot accurate to nearest 5 minutes; with breaks): 6.86m (26.7%)
'Part-consolidated' (timeslot accurate to nearest 5 minutes; with breaks): 8.06m (27.0%)
Consolidated (timeslot accurate to nearest 1 minute; without breaks): 8.54m (28.4%)
The timeshift on days 2-8 added 1.20m to the overnight audience; stripping out the breaks and timing to the minute (rather than 5 minutes) added a further 480k.
I'm probably in a very small minority here, but didn't watch any of the programmes mentioned above last night, I was watching the NFL Conference Championship games on Sky Sports 2HD from 8pm onwards.
Does anybody know the audience size for that?
The first NFL Conference Championship programme (from 19:30-23:00) averaged 138k (0.55%) on Sky Sports 2 (inc HD). The peak was 175k (0.90%)
ITV's all-day figures have been hammered partly because they've taken the commercial decision to invest very little into new programming off-peak, particularly weekend daytimes and late night all week. (Daytime in the week is better.) They've generally been in the mid-to-high teens for quite a while now in all-day share.
Coming back to this, does anyone know when BBC1 last had a clean sweep at nine every night Monday to Sunday, outside the Olympics?
Was it 1955, the week before ITV launched?
I've found a more recent example: BBC One beat ITV in the 9pm hour 10 nights on the trot, from Friday 17th to Sunday 26th March 2006. Hustle, Casualty/New Tricks, Planet Earth, live domestic football, a documentary called Whistleblower, more live domestic football, a drama named Family Man, Hustle again, Casualty/New Tricks again, and Planet Earth again: each of them prevailed over the ITV opposition.
Bit On The Side handled it superbly well and exposed it for the non-issue that it really is. Two rehearsals, on site, with a producer accompanying him, and no non-rehearsal related contact allowed. That was it. The Great Big Cover Up has bored me to death today. But tomorrow is a new day and the show will go on, even if I don't make it.
P.S. Apparently it was first revealed in Star Magazine - a Richard Desmond publication - last week. Oops! Not such a big cover up after all.
The media are only blowing it up out of proportion because Celebrity Big Brother is on the rise this year, and the media have never liked Channel 5 to do well.
It'll be interesting how Top of the Lake does when it debuts on BBC Two, seems to have gotten raves at Sundance. It debuts on the Sundance Channel in March so I imagine it'll air around the same time if not earlier in the UK.
I really think they're hurting the Bake Off by airing it so early - surely it would rate better closer to Comic Relief itself, or if they want to start it early air it weekly for 4 weeks instead.
But then it gets lost amid all the other Comic Relief programming, and doesn't seem as special as it does out on its own. The fact it's for Comic Relief is peripheral to the show, the fact is it's a special edition of a big show.
It is good to finally see bbc one win so much of its schedule. The channel was an underdog when I was growing up and its fee always questioned. I am beginning to have sympathy for itv after all these years because it now seems the channel running behind. But its always been a boring channel hardly any invention on it. I think bbc one should consider british bake off for a january saturday evening slot at 7 nxt winter and follow it with something like the paradise or warm yer heart kinda of drama. All creatures great and small would be successful rebooted by heidi thomas for six weeks.
Oh....and that I expect it's overnights to be pretty healthy, does anyone expect MBB to be around in a couple of years? You would think the Beeb would want to hold on to it's popular comedy, ironic given how old fashioned it is (Miranda, Blandings, MBB's) but also very brave to commission!!!
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Regarding CBB, interesting show and the forum is the busiest I have seen since launch night. Not sure what that will do for ratings though. Maybe a high +1 showing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2013/what-remains-casting.html
Sounds really good.
Isn't it Miranda/MBB night tonight? Doubt it'll go over 2.2.
Nice ITV dig.
It wasn't an ITV dig! It was just a point that this thread has been going so long, and like ITV have just unveiled a new look, this thread needs a refresh too!
Last 2 Monday's went 2.2m, it could go 2.3m, maybe the +1 showing will be higher than usual?
Talking of old ratings and the effects they've had on people's opinions of BBC One and ITV, I can remember looking at BARB Top 30s for BBC1 and ITV in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and they were rather one-sided. In the autumn and winter, it was perfectly normal for all the programmes in the ITV Top 30 to be over 10m! BBC1 would normally have around 15 shows with 10m+ ratings in a single week at those times of year. By the bottom of the Top 30, BBC1 would usually be well under 8m in autumn/winter.
In summer, sometimes, if it was hot, only the two episodes of EastEnders and five of Neighbours would be over 10m.
Here's a statement from Big Brother regarding Rylan:
It was agreed before Rylan entered the Big Brother House that he would be allowed to rehearse for his tour twice on-site with a choreographer. This was agreed on the strict understanding that he was not allowed to discuss events in the Big Brother House with anyone during such rehearsal periods. Rylan was escorted by a Big Brother producer at all times during rehearsal to ensure full compliance.
Launch- 3.83m
Friday- 2.43m
Saturday- 2.68m
Sunday- 2.64m
Monday- 2.73m
Tuesday- 2.61m
Wednesday- 2.77m
Thursday- 2.64m
Friday- 2.88m
Saturday- 2.81m
Sunday- 2.92m
Official average so far incl +1 is 2.81m
On par with CBB8 officials so far which was the highest rated series on Channel 5.
Sounds a bit grim to me.
Another gritty, miserable, viewer repelling social/crime drama on BBC1.
It was usually worse than that for BBC1. It was rarely better than 5 or 6 over 10m after the 7 episodes of the soaps, whereas ITV had several over 10m nearly every night of the week. I do indeed remember ITV getting a full sweep of 10m ratings all the way down to 30.
BBC1 only ever got 10m ratings on the second page of its top 30 in Christmas week and that was never a given.
Oh I do wish Barb would let Mike upload those missing years of ratings.....
Ahh yeah, don't watch ITV so had almost forgotten that monstrosity.
P.S. Apparently it was first revealed in Star Magazine - a Richard Desmond publication - last week. Oops! Not such a big cover up after all.
They're very close to the worst ever. The main programme's overnight of 6.96m (26.6%) exc +1 ranks as the second-lowest-rated Sunday performance show ever (the worst being 19 February last year with 6.80m (28.0%) exc +1.) Even including Saturdays (the day the show aired in the first two series) it's the third-worst rating and share ever. Including +1 doesn't improve matters.
Looking at the results show, last night's 5.33m (exc +1) / 5.54m (inc +1) was the lowest ever rating (Saturday or Sunday) for a non-repeat, regular show.
08/01/2012 PERFORMANCE: 8.70m (32.8%) exc +1, 9.00m (33.9%) inc +1
08/01/2012 SKATE OFF: 6.53m (24.0%), 6.73m (24.75%)
15/01/2012 PERFORMANCE: 7.71m (28.8%), 7.90m (29.5%)
15/01/2012 SKATE OFF : 6.31m (23.5%), 6.54m (24.3%)
22/01/2012 PERFORMANCE: 7.11m (27.7%), 7.33m (28.5%)
22/01/2012 SKATE OFF: 5.90m (23.0%), 6.12m (23.85%)
Mr Selfridge, ep 1 (6.1.13) [exc +1]
Overnight (timeslot accurate to nearest 5 minutes; with breaks): 6.86m (26.7%)
'Part-consolidated' (timeslot accurate to nearest 5 minutes; with breaks): 8.06m (27.0%)
Consolidated (timeslot accurate to nearest 1 minute; without breaks): 8.54m (28.4%)
The timeshift on days 2-8 added 1.20m to the overnight audience; stripping out the breaks and timing to the minute (rather than 5 minutes) added a further 480k.
The first NFL Conference Championship programme (from 19:30-23:00) averaged 138k (0.55%) on Sky Sports 2 (inc HD). The peak was 175k (0.90%)
ITV's all-day figures have been hammered partly because they've taken the commercial decision to invest very little into new programming off-peak, particularly weekend daytimes and late night all week. (Daytime in the week is better.) They've generally been in the mid-to-high teens for quite a while now in all-day share.
Week 2, 2012: BBC One 20.0%, BBC Two 6.7%. TOTAL 26.7%
Week 2, 2013: BBC One 20.9%, BBC Two 6.0%. TOTAL 26.9%
BBC One is up by more than BBC Two is down. That is all.
I've found a more recent example: BBC One beat ITV in the 9pm hour 10 nights on the trot, from Friday 17th to Sunday 26th March 2006. Hustle, Casualty/New Tricks, Planet Earth, live domestic football, a documentary called Whistleblower, more live domestic football, a drama named Family Man, Hustle again, Casualty/New Tricks again, and Planet Earth again: each of them prevailed over the ITV opposition.
The media are only blowing it up out of proportion because Celebrity Big Brother is on the rise this year, and the media have never liked Channel 5 to do well.
But then it gets lost amid all the other Comic Relief programming, and doesn't seem as special as it does out on its own. The fact it's for Comic Relief is peripheral to the show, the fact is it's a special edition of a big show.
Today the whole of commercial TV is many different players. ITV's dominance is long gone.
So this BBC/ITV thread war is pointless.
Commercial TV audiences are so split every which way nowadays that it's given the impression (to some) that the BBC is doing fantastically.
But really the BBC is doing badly.
It's competition in the 70s was still the whole of commercial TV. Which at the time was only composed of ITV.
New to Digital Spy Forums, just wanted to say (even if it soes make me unpopular) that MBB was absolutely hilarious last night!! Well Done BBC1
The programme peaked at 3.04m (11.3%) at 9.40pm.
Oh very good