UK needs the death penalty badly , our justice system is the laughing stock of the world .
i have absolutely no problem whatsoever with it being re-introduced , not that it ever will be , all the do-gooders have pretty much ruined any chance of offenders ever being properly punished for there crimes .
Would miscarriages of justice make you lose sleep at night??
I would love to get a comparison between the life this guy leads on Death Row for killing a 24 year old Mother and her 4 year old Child and someone of similar or worse crime here in the UK. I would bet the difference would be night and day with regard to his lifestyle in prison, his attitude and his belongings from the Cell itself to what is contained in the Cell and what is on his person.
I think that would be quite a good comparison to see in a documentary. Might finally show some people that having a harsher justice system might actually benefit the UK in the long term, reduce over population of the Prisons and the re-offending rate might begin to fall. Hell (this might be too far) we might even get a bit of respect for the Law and those who represent it :O
What a brilliant 2 part documentary! Sooo interesting and that last story with that inmate on death row.. He deserves to be there 110% in death row. What he did was horrendous!!
The guy that killed the mother and daughter is going to have a much more peaceful death than they had. If he thinks he deserves the death penalty, why is he appealing?
The guy that killed the mother and daughter is going to have a much more peaceful death than they had. If he thinks he deserves the death penalty, why is he appealing?
UK needs the death penalty badly , our justice system is the laughing stock of the world .
i have absolutely no problem whatsoever with it being re-introduced , not that it ever will be , all the do-gooders have pretty much ruined any chance of offenders ever being properly punished for there crimes .
I agree. These days forensic science can prove without doubt that a certain person commited a crime and I would lose no sleep at night if we had the death penalty.
You are right about the do-gooders.
I'm still amazed reason the first few pages of the thread. 13 is old enough to know that murder is wrong!
IMO murder is murder, no matter what age you are, no matter what age your victim was. They may be clever, they may seem to show to show remorse, but they took another's life and for that they don't deserve their life. I found myself saying 'You should have thought of that before you killed someone' every time a prisoner was moaning.
UK needs the death penalty badly , our justice system is the laughing stock of the world .
i have absolutely no problem whatsoever with it being re-introduced , not that it ever will be , all the do-gooders have pretty much ruined any chance of offenders ever being properly punished for there crimes .
These days forensic science can prove without doubt that a certain person commited a crime.
I'm afraid forensic science is nowhere near close to being able to do that. Misinterpretation of evidence, contamination of evidence, suppression of evidence . . . these and many other human fallibilities still very much stand in the way of that goal.
I would love to get a comparison between the life this guy leads on Death Row for killing a 24 year old Mother and her 4 year old Child and someone of similar or worse crime here in the UK. I would bet the difference would be night and day with regard to his lifestyle in prison, his attitude and his belongings from the Cell itself to what is contained in the Cell and what is on his person.
I think that would be quite a good comparison to see in a documentary. Might finally show some people that having a harsher justice system might actually benefit the UK in the long term, reduce over population of the Prisons and the re-offending rate might begin to fall. Hell (this might be too far) we might even get a bit of respect for the Law and those who represent it :O
Huuuuuuurrrrrrrr Dddddddddduuuuuuuuurrrrrr.:rolleyes:
America has one of the highest prison populations in the word, and their re-offending rate isn't too rosy either:rolleyes::rolleyes:
I loved the music on this show - anyone know what the theme tune was?
I felt less sympathy for the characters featured on Part II - there was no Sanford type this time.
One thing they downplayed last time was the violence inside these prisons so glad they acknowledged a bit this time with that guy being beaten up and dragged. I did wonder how all these murderers are allowed to roam freely together - it's just asking for trouble.
Too much time was spent with the guy on death row who'd murdered the mum and kid. I wish they'd featured more of the general prison conditions.
Also, why do the guys on death row have such massive, bright cells while everyone else is cooped up in tiny, dimly lit ones?
I agree, Trevor was not super sharp at times and at times missed the mark with his questions
Still an interesting program though
Agreed but fair play to him stepping up at the end and telling that man what he thought of his crimes!! I was waiting for him to get a clump.
Baer (?) is a disgusting human being. I swear he was smirking at times. Usually id put this down to nerves but after seeing his police tapes hes just a lying, raping murderer.
Baer (?) is a disgusting human being. I swear he was smirking at times. Usually id put this down to nerves but after seeing his police tapes hes just a lying, raping murderer.
Yet somehow he had a girlfriend in Germany, presumably a pen pal relationship. Whatever was she thinking :eek:
ETA just seen the above link, the crime is listed, the photo is creepy, yet people still write to him, why?
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Yes, though rarely.
Would miscarriages of justice make you lose sleep at night??
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On a side note Trevor is no Louis Theroux....
I think that would be quite a good comparison to see in a documentary. Might finally show some people that having a harsher justice system might actually benefit the UK in the long term, reduce over population of the Prisons and the re-offending rate might begin to fall. Hell (this might be too far) we might even get a bit of respect for the Law and those who represent it :O
Trevor McDonald, what a legend!
didnt someone say earlier you have to appeal?
dont know american death row law to quote it tho
I agree. These days forensic science can prove without doubt that a certain person commited a crime and I would lose no sleep at night if we had the death penalty.
You are right about the do-gooders.
mmm they may do eventually then ...just not straight away.
IMO murder is murder, no matter what age you are, no matter what age your victim was. They may be clever, they may seem to show to show remorse, but they took another's life and for that they don't deserve their life. I found myself saying 'You should have thought of that before you killed someone' every time a prisoner was moaning.
this isnt the 1970's , gaining conclusive evidence is as easy as making a cup of tea now .
Rubbish!:rolleyes:
Was it the 70's when Barry George was wrongly convicted of murdering Jill Dando?
There are others.
I'm afraid forensic science is nowhere near close to being able to do that. Misinterpretation of evidence, contamination of evidence, suppression of evidence . . . these and many other human fallibilities still very much stand in the way of that goal.
I agree, Trevor was not super sharp at times and at times missed the mark with his questions
Still an interesting program though
Huuuuuuurrrrrrrr Dddddddddduuuuuuuuurrrrrr.:rolleyes:
America has one of the highest prison populations in the word, and their re-offending rate isn't too rosy either:rolleyes::rolleyes:
I felt less sympathy for the characters featured on Part II - there was no Sanford type this time.
One thing they downplayed last time was the violence inside these prisons so glad they acknowledged a bit this time with that guy being beaten up and dragged. I did wonder how all these murderers are allowed to roam freely together - it's just asking for trouble.
Too much time was spent with the guy on death row who'd murdered the mum and kid. I wish they'd featured more of the general prison conditions.
Also, why do the guys on death row have such massive, bright cells while everyone else is cooped up in tiny, dimly lit ones?
Agreed but fair play to him stepping up at the end and telling that man what he thought of his crimes!! I was waiting for him to get a clump.
Baer (?) is a disgusting human being. I swear he was smirking at times. Usually id put this down to nerves but after seeing his police tapes hes just a lying, raping murderer.
http://www.writeaprisoner.com/Template.aspx?i=z-910135
Yet somehow he had a girlfriend in Germany, presumably a pen pal relationship. Whatever was she thinking :eek:
ETA just seen the above link, the crime is listed, the photo is creepy, yet people still write to him, why?