Lol, the ending was a little corny but effective. I doubt if Harry would have been allowed to set out on his own like that.
Pretty good episode, though, overall.
Wondering if Grove's wife died naturally? I guess she must have, no insinuations otherwise, but it just seemed convenient.
I really can't understand why posters are raving about Katherine Kelly's performance. SHe is so wooden and expressionless. She has no emotion in her voice - just a forced upperclass drone.
Towards the end of her stint in CS whenever Becky was supposed to be emotional her face was just blank and eyes staring. Same here. One of the worst, no the worst, actress in the series. Agnes' cockney accent is up there with KK though.
In other words she knows damn well there's not going to be a second series. Regardless, she SHOULD quit, she was badly mis-cast and I suspect the script and direction are appalling which makes the actors look bad.
She wasn't miscast. It's just that she isn't given enough to do.
great episode last night, and good to see harry smiling at the end!!
i do hope agnes and henri get it together...:D
not surprising to see victor and lady mae get it on either!! they are a match for each other!
ellen love as a serious actress??? hmmm i dont think so!!
I thought that there were several confusing things about last night's show.
What did the staff actually do in the 5 hours after closing time? They can't have been working on the window, which was apparently "not quite finished" at 9 am. (and didn't look as though much work had actually been done on it)
Why did the investor turn up at the house when Harry may have been on his death-bed? Did he really expect Rose to know what was in Harry's will? I can see why Rose may have wanted to reassure him, but would she really have known?
I agree that it was absurd to expect someone who had been in a coma to get out of bed, let alone walk on his own to the store.
Well done to the accountant for taking charge when Mr Gove obviously got it wrong! :):)
In other words she knows damn well there's not going to be a second series.
But I put a link up on here the other day from the Guardian saying that a 2nd series has already been commissioned. Don't people read the last couple of pages before posting?
I've been watching this and enjoying all the characters apart from... Mr Selfridge!!!! Last nights episode was the best for me because it barely featured him! I find him to be an awful actor and my eyes are constantly drawn towards his weird hair. I have no real care about what happens to him, but enjoy all the other characters so much hence why I still watch it.
your having an attack here now as well have you finally found another thread to air your misplaced bigoted rose tinted diotypical viewers in about a series you dislike as its on itv and very popular - keep it to the truth with identifiable and trusted sources and people here may keep it friendly if not walk away now before this thread turns into an absurder version of your other thread - lets go and leave these good people to their well reasoned thread.
In other words she knows damn well there's not going to be a second series. Regardless, she SHOULD quit, she was badly mis-cast and I suspect the script and direction are appalling which makes the actors look bad.
2 nd series confirmed last week so this post a little incorrect im afraid
i agree it is starting to become 'upstairs, downstairs' now. The episode again had such luscious brilliant production values but again nothing really happened. Personally, I thought the show would focus so much more on the retail/business side but it just seems to be meddling along a slow pace with only some characters being the saving graces and others being useless (i.e. lady mae, the waiter, harry himself). Plus, I'm sorry to say this, but there seems to be some REALLY cheesy acting from all the selfridge children (please don't say they are going to feature more).
I thought that tonight's episode was the best so far. It was good to see more characters coming into their own.
Up until now, it's looked very good, but it's not really come over as "Don't miss" programming.
However, I thought that tonight's episode was so much better. Looking forward to next week.
Thought that too.
After the first episode, it started to go down hill, but I stuck with it...and the last couple of episodes have got better, with last nights, the best.
I find him to be an awful actor and my eyes are constantly drawn towards his weird hair./QUOTE]
I remember him when he was bald He was in Ellen Degeneres comedy show in the 80/90's. He was sexier without hair
I was actually thinking the same thing after watching him in an early supporting role in 'Kiss The Girls', His hair was really receding then. I do think he looks better now though, even though I am not a big fan of Mr Selfridge.
The actual series itself is beginning to grow on me a bit, but not a lot!
They might have splashed out on a few more extras for the demonstration scene. A dozen or so shrieking women in large hats hardly posed a threat to civilisation! It gets sillier by the week.
They might have splashed out on a few more extras for the demonstration scene. A dozen or so shrieking women in large hats hardly posed a threat to civilisation! It gets sillier by the week.
A lack of extras is typical in British shows in general. It is noticeable in Dancing On The Edge right now. In Primeval, dinosaurs were even able to roam the streets of London without encountering anybody not in the show's cast.:D
They might have splashed out on a few more extras for the demonstration scene. A dozen or so shrieking women in large hats hardly posed a threat to civilisation! It gets sillier by the week.
A lack of extras is not anything new but I do agree that the end scene was extremely cheesy- harry walking around by himself a minute after waking from a coma, the window display suddenly appearing and then the daughter suddenly finding him. The drama is not bad but practically NOTHING happened in this episode.
im wondering if,judging by this thread.. i should be disturbed that i find jeremy piven cuter by the week??:eek::eek::D i dont care, he's v sexy and im enjoying the show:D
he's got a rival though, gregory fitoussi, phwowarr!!!:D
OK episode again, I suppose. This is tad more light and fluffy for what was hyped to be the highly sanctimonious going-ons behind the beginnings of the Selfridges.
Some things made little sense: are we supposed to believe that this well-to-do boy whose home and travels are normally taken care of for him/with someone else, manages to leave his home, find his way to the store, and despite the number of people glaring at him and exclaiming at his presence in the store, no-one realised he was there and he didn't think of saying to another who he was until he tripped on the floor?!
And letting Selfridge wake up from a head injury-induced coma and let him go off for a long walk on his own?! And the daughter who it seemed was going to let the women smash her dad's shop window until that curtain was raised?!
Good points: well done to the accountant guy for going behind Groves' back, and for his friend Frank for smoothing things over with Ellen and all that. That's what I call a friend! Oh yeh - and I like the theme music.
A lack of extras is not anything new but I do agree that the end scene was extremely cheesy- harry walking around by himself a minute after waking from a coma, the window display suddenly appearing and then the daughter suddenly finding him. The drama is not bad but practically NOTHING happened in this episode.
You're right - nothing happened that we didn't already know or could pick out from the previous 5 episodes. What it did do, however, was to bring these things to the forefront - e.g. that Mr Leclair likes Agnes (we knew that Agnes liked Mr Leclair); Lady Mae had an eye for Victor; Mr Groves's wife is dead, paving the way for whatever relationship might happen between him and that Accessories woman-person. Most crucially, though, Mr Selfridge's absence at least allowed the other characters and their stories to shine. And this was badly needed or else there wouldn't be much of a story to tell.
I laughed at the demonstration, though. Maybe the re-appearance of Mr Selfridge was its curse - it certainly didn't help anyway:D.
Another wth moment was Mrs Selfridge leaving Harry to walk the streets.
OK episode again, I suppose. This is tad more light and fluffy for what was hyped to be the highly sanctimonious going-ons behind the beginnings of the Selfridges.
Some things made little sense: are we supposed to believe that this well-to-do boy whose home and travels are normally taken care of for him/with someone else, manages to leave his home, find his way to the store, and despite the number of people glaring at him and exclaiming at his presence in the store, no-one realised he was there and he didn't think of saying to another who he was until he tripped on the floor?!
And letting Selfridge wake up from a head injury-induced coma and let him go off for a long walk on his own?! And the daughter who it seemed was going to let the women smash her dad's shop window until that curtain was raised?!
Good points: well done to the accountant guy for going behind Groves' back, and for his friend Frank for smoothing things over with Ellen and all that. That's what I call a friend! Oh yeh - and I like the theme music.
Oh, yeah, that's another wth moment I'd forgotten. I didn't think that the staff would've allowed a child to roam about the store without an adult. He could've been a street urchin, albeit a clean and well-dressed one!:D
It lost me - and I will pretty much watch anything - couldn't BEAR Piven, think his acting, enunciation, and delivery are dire and certainly don't find him remotely attractive. All the same, that's not completely his fault and must surely be down to both casting and direction. I thought the script was lame and unconvincing, the scenes were a mixture of slow and then incomprehensible lurching, storylines.... well...... serious lack of.
Considering the subject matter and the historic value, the location, plus the fact there's a biography to refer to, I don't see how this production has been so woefully cobbled together. You literally couldn't pay me to watch it.
I know other people are enjoying it, I'm not trying to take away from that fact, it's just my opinion - but if a million viewers have dropped off in the middle of winter when there's no rival show..... something's gone wrong and probably for the reasons I state.
Isn't Ripper Street supposed to be the rival show?
I thought that there were several confusing things about last night's show.
What did the staff actually do in the 5 hours after closing time? They can't have been working on the window, which was apparently "not quite finished" at 9 am. (and didn't look as though much work had actually been done on it)
Why did the investor turn up at the house when Harry may have been on his death-bed? Did he really expect Rose to know what was in Harry's will? I can see why Rose may have wanted to reassure him, but would she really have known?
I agree that it was absurd to expect someone who had been in a coma to get out of bed, let alone walk on his own to the store.
Well done to the accountant for taking charge when Mr Gove obviously got it wrong! :):)
I think the staff were meant to be making things up for the window display, but why it would take so many of them and so long, I don't know.
Why wouldn't Rose know what was in her own husband's will? Surely she would, even in those rather chauvinistic times?
They might have splashed out on a few more extras for the demonstration scene. A dozen or so shrieking women in large hats hardly posed a threat to civilisation! It gets sillier by the week.
A dozen woman would be enough to smash the windows if they starting throwing things, and to cause some damage inside the shop.
I was lukewarm about this when it began but since it's lurched into 'so bad it's good' territory I'm loving it. Not a cliché is being left unturned except, possibly, the one about window dressers being gay; this one being the next best thing, a heavily-accented Frenchman. My favourite bit last night was when the millionaire store owner turns up at the cockernee shopgirl's 'umble lodgings and beats up her drunken wastrel of a father. As if! They should have called it Carry On Shopping.
Yes. Can't believe it took 16 pages for someone to make this point; criticism for just about everything except how cheesey and cliché-ridden it is. You find it in the other comparable period dramas 1) They're always from some implausibly benevolent capitalist/aristocrat's perspective - it's completely ahistorical and flies in the face of everything you've ever read about Victorian/Edwardian England and capitalism at the time. 2) They're portrayed as one big happy family, with personal relationships with the owner who can't do enough for them and 3) They're all utterly pre-occupied with him and the business (pulling together when he has the crash, clapping at the thought of unpaid overtime etc). Even Downton Abbey had a token socialist occasionally agitating against this - as it is it's near propaganda level.
Well a lot of those planned demonstrations for suffrage ended up with much smaller numbers than expected and were always anticipated by the media as fearing huge, violent events. But they seldom were.
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Pretty good episode, though, overall.
Wondering if Grove's wife died naturally? I guess she must have, no insinuations otherwise, but it just seemed convenient.
She wasn't miscast. It's just that she isn't given enough to do.
i do hope agnes and henri get it together...:D
not surprising to see victor and lady mae get it on either!! they are a match for each other!
ellen love as a serious actress??? hmmm i dont think so!!
What did the staff actually do in the 5 hours after closing time? They can't have been working on the window, which was apparently "not quite finished" at 9 am. (and didn't look as though much work had actually been done on it)
Why did the investor turn up at the house when Harry may have been on his death-bed? Did he really expect Rose to know what was in Harry's will? I can see why Rose may have wanted to reassure him, but would she really have known?
I agree that it was absurd to expect someone who had been in a coma to get out of bed, let alone walk on his own to the store.
Well done to the accountant for taking charge when Mr Gove obviously got it wrong!
But I put a link up on here the other day from the Guardian saying that a 2nd series has already been commissioned. Don't people read the last couple of pages before posting?
The only upside is that I love the music.
Katherine Kelly has QUIT Mr Selfridge and will not be in the second series: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...nd-series.html
your having an attack here now as well have you finally found another thread to air your misplaced bigoted rose tinted diotypical viewers in about a series you dislike as its on itv and very popular - keep it to the truth with identifiable and trusted sources and people here may keep it friendly if not walk away now before this thread turns into an absurder version of your other thread - lets go and leave these good people to their well reasoned thread.
In other words she knows damn well there's not going to be a second series. Regardless, she SHOULD quit, she was badly mis-cast and I suspect the script and direction are appalling which makes the actors look bad.
2 nd series confirmed last week so this post a little incorrect im afraid
After the first episode, it started to go down hill, but I stuck with it...and the last couple of episodes have got better, with last nights, the best.
But why wasn't Harry in a Hospital....:eek:
A lack of extras is typical in British shows in general. It is noticeable in Dancing On The Edge right now. In Primeval, dinosaurs were even able to roam the streets of London without encountering anybody not in the show's cast.:D
A lack of extras is not anything new but I do agree that the end scene was extremely cheesy- harry walking around by himself a minute after waking from a coma, the window display suddenly appearing and then the daughter suddenly finding him. The drama is not bad but practically NOTHING happened in this episode.
he's got a rival though, gregory fitoussi, phwowarr!!!:D
Some things made little sense: are we supposed to believe that this well-to-do boy whose home and travels are normally taken care of for him/with someone else, manages to leave his home, find his way to the store, and despite the number of people glaring at him and exclaiming at his presence in the store, no-one realised he was there and he didn't think of saying to another who he was until he tripped on the floor?!
And letting Selfridge wake up from a head injury-induced coma and let him go off for a long walk on his own?! And the daughter who it seemed was going to let the women smash her dad's shop window until that curtain was raised?!
Good points: well done to the accountant guy for going behind Groves' back, and for his friend Frank for smoothing things over with Ellen and all that. That's what I call a friend! Oh yeh - and I like the theme music.
You're right - nothing happened that we didn't already know or could pick out from the previous 5 episodes. What it did do, however, was to bring these things to the forefront - e.g. that Mr Leclair likes Agnes (we knew that Agnes liked Mr Leclair); Lady Mae had an eye for Victor; Mr Groves's wife is dead, paving the way for whatever relationship might happen between him and that Accessories woman-person. Most crucially, though, Mr Selfridge's absence at least allowed the other characters and their stories to shine. And this was badly needed or else there wouldn't be much of a story to tell.
I laughed at the demonstration, though. Maybe the re-appearance of Mr Selfridge was its curse - it certainly didn't help anyway:D.
Another wth moment was Mrs Selfridge leaving Harry to walk the streets.
ETA: Ooh, yes, I really like the theme music, too
Oh, yeah, that's another wth moment I'd forgotten. I didn't think that the staff would've allowed a child to roam about the store without an adult. He could've been a street urchin, albeit a clean and well-dressed one!:D
Isn't Ripper Street supposed to be the rival show?
I think the staff were meant to be making things up for the window display, but why it would take so many of them and so long, I don't know.
Why wouldn't Rose know what was in her own husband's will? Surely she would, even in those rather chauvinistic times?
It's been hinted at for a few weeks.
A dozen woman would be enough to smash the windows if they starting throwing things, and to cause some damage inside the shop.
Yes. Can't believe it took 16 pages for someone to make this point; criticism for just about everything except how cheesey and cliché-ridden it is. You find it in the other comparable period dramas 1) They're always from some implausibly benevolent capitalist/aristocrat's perspective - it's completely ahistorical and flies in the face of everything you've ever read about Victorian/Edwardian England and capitalism at the time. 2) They're portrayed as one big happy family, with personal relationships with the owner who can't do enough for them and 3) They're all utterly pre-occupied with him and the business (pulling together when he has the crash, clapping at the thought of unpaid overtime etc). Even Downton Abbey had a token socialist occasionally agitating against this - as it is it's near propaganda level.