I really didn't like this episode I loved the last series (only saw the last two eps, have yet to watch the PM ****ing the pig episode) but this one I did not find good at all. I could not engage with the lead actor and actress at all. And the ending was just.. oh.
Next weeks looks good by the mini advert we saw. And I adore Lenora Crichlow so hopefully it'll be better than this one.
So in the end she decided to keep the living memory of her husband as she couldn't let go of him.
She didn't jump or there would be no daughter.
The premise was good. How much of your online presence could allow people to create an artificial you. There were obviously cracks as gaps in his knowledge broke the fourth wall for her. The question is did his crying pull at her heart strings enough for her to keep him and start a new relationship or did she keep him so her daughter would have a father - so to speak.
It was also about grief and how hard it is to let go.
When Ash only existed online, it was interesting and even plausible. However, once clone Ash appeared, the leap into more extreme science-fiction was too jarring.
And yeah, the end was a bit of a cop out. She realised he wasn't really Ash. Until he cried a bit, cos she told him too. And so she went back to not being able to let him go again.
The ending was weird though. It should have just ended with the scream.
No I liked the ending; the whole idea that she can't let go completely and the "doll" (or whatever it is) becomes not a subsitute for the real thing but an occasional indulgence; like pulling out the family photo album and going through it every so often. I thought it was quite thought provoking in its way.
I also like the idea that you could bring someone back from the dead not in the old cliched sci-fi way of transplaning their brain into another body but by recreating their personality and memories from their online history. I actually think that would probably be possible one day.
No I liked the ending; the whole idea that she can't let go completely and the "doll" (or whatever it is) becomes not a subsitute for the real thing but an occasional indulgence; like pulling out the family photo album and going through it every so often. I thought it was quite thought provoking in its way.
I also like the idea that you could bring someone back from the dead not in the old cliched sci-fi way of transplaning their brain into another body but by recreating their personality and memories from their online history. I actually think that would probably be possible one day.
That is what I liked about this. I'm surprised about all the negativity, to be honest.
so the message is.....people are stupid, technology is over rated and facebook is shit
I think that's the message of Black Mirror in general But I like the idea that there's a kind of general world view that links the different stories together.
It makes me laugh that people try to judge something that they're barely watching because they're posting on the internet at the same time. Unless you give something your full attention how can you give a reasoned opinion?
It's the same with the Utopia thread - people complaining about the plausibility of a piece of technology or whether someone would do such & such a thing 'in real life'. It's a story, as long as it follows its own internal logic it should be enjoyable (or not) on its own terms. Picking holes in things like whether it's realistic or not is disingenuous.
No I liked the ending; the whole idea that she can't let go completely and the "doll" (or whatever it is) becomes not a subsitute for the real thing but an occasional indulgence; like pulling out the family photo album and going through it every so often. I thought it was quite thought provoking in its way.
I also like the idea that you could bring someone back from the dead not in the old cliched sci-fi way of transplaning their brain into another body but by recreating their personality and memories from their online history. I actually think that would probably be possible one day.
Yes, well put - the clone Ash becomes like the photos of Ash's brother -kept in the attic when gone.
Leaving aside the SF elements, the obvious source for this was Truly Madly Deeply, except that unlike in that film, she doesn't move on.
I liked it - Hayley Atwell was excellent, a million miles better than in the awful Restless over xmas, I just think it would have been better to stop it at Ash the phone voice - that was enough really.
so the message is.....people are stupid, technology is over rated and facebook is shit
No the message was how far would grief take you. And also how people suffering grief can be exploited.
At first she didn't want to know, then the pregnancy made her experience a little bit to help her through the situation. Then she became dependent on it. When she dropped her phone she suffered classic withdrawl symptoms. When the clonebot came she noticed there was something not right but at the end she couldn't send him away. She didn't seem to happy about it in the last scene either so it wasn't a totally pleasurable experience for her.
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Next weeks looks good by the mini advert we saw. And I adore Lenora Crichlow so hopefully it'll be better than this one.
But apart from that she was good
I'm real by the way. This is really me typing.
She didn't jump or there would be no daughter.
The premise was good. How much of your online presence could allow people to create an artificial you. There were obviously cracks as gaps in his knowledge broke the fourth wall for her. The question is did his crying pull at her heart strings enough for her to keep him and start a new relationship or did she keep him so her daughter would have a father - so to speak.
It was also about grief and how hard it is to let go.
how do we know?!
agreed, it was still below par tho
And yeah, the end was a bit of a cop out. She realised he wasn't really Ash. Until he cried a bit, cos she told him too. And so she went back to not being able to let him go again.
:rolleyes:
Always watch to make up your own mind.
Watch. I didn't like it, but you might.
I also like the idea that you could bring someone back from the dead not in the old cliched sci-fi way of transplaning their brain into another body but by recreating their personality and memories from their online history. I actually think that would probably be possible one day.
No he died in a car crash as the scene where the rental van company said the vehicle hadn't been returned.
It's the same with the Utopia thread - people complaining about the plausibility of a piece of technology or whether someone would do such & such a thing 'in real life'. It's a story, as long as it follows its own internal logic it should be enjoyable (or not) on its own terms. Picking holes in things like whether it's realistic or not is disingenuous.
Leaving aside the SF elements, the obvious source for this was Truly Madly Deeply, except that unlike in that film, she doesn't move on.
I liked it - Hayley Atwell was excellent, a million miles better than in the awful Restless over xmas, I just think it would have been better to stop it at Ash the phone voice - that was enough really.
No the message was how far would grief take you. And also how people suffering grief can be exploited.
At first she didn't want to know, then the pregnancy made her experience a little bit to help her through the situation. Then she became dependent on it. When she dropped her phone she suffered classic withdrawl symptoms. When the clonebot came she noticed there was something not right but at the end she couldn't send him away. She didn't seem to happy about it in the last scene either so it wasn't a totally pleasurable experience for her.