I think sometimes the Academy Awards gives awards to actor or actresses that are due rather than the performance itself. This was the case with Al Pacino and 'Scent of a Woman'. I think he has delivered much better performance prior to that with 'Dog Day Afternoon' being a prime example.
An example that is direct to the question is Anthony Hopkins for 'The Silence of the Lambs' where he was in it for about 15 minutes and Sean Penn for 'Milk' when Mickey Rourke should have won for 'The Wrestler.'
Totally agree. I think the best example is Paul Newman. He was nominated so many times in roles that are now seen as legendary (Hud, Cool Hand Luke, Hustler), but was finally given it for Color of Money. He was also given a Lifetime achievement award in 1986 since they thought he may not put in another great performance. The same can be said for Peter O'Toole for Lawrence of Arabia.
Yep, absolutely. Of all of the male lead performances from that year(1993), I think it should have been Anthony Hopkins for 'Remains of the Day'. His silent butler performance was amazing. A truly great performance.
Ironically, Hanks won the following year as well(for Forest Gump). I think one of Hanks' best performances was in 'Big'. As a comedy performance that was very good. Comedy is perhaps harder than drama, and sadly it doesn't seem to get that much Oscar recognition(only Diane Keaton for 'Annie Hall' and Frances McDormand for 'Fargo' spring to mind).
I've just said the same thing in another thread. If any actor needs to see one performance on how to act and not overact, then it's this one. And I include Daniel Day Lewis in that advice too!:D
I know but that was because they f**ked up so many other times when he didn't win for Scarface, Dog Day Afternoon, The Godfather etc.....
Yeah, it was Al's time. He should have perhaps got it for either The Godfather Part 2 or Dog Day Afternoon.
In 1992, it should have probably been between Clint Eastwood for Unforgiven or Robert Downey Jnr. for Chaplin. On balance I think that Robert Downey Jnr. should have got it.
Don't forget that Al was also nominated for Glengarry Glen Ross that year as well. 1992 just seemed to be his year.
Bing Crosby - Going My Way - It should have gone to Fred MacMurray, who wasn't even Nominated for Double Indemnity
Barry Fitzgerald - Best Supporting Actor - Going My Way - It should have gone to Edward G Robinson, who was also ignored for his incredible performance in Double Indemnity
Ingrid Bergman - Gaslight - It should have been Barbara Stanwyck in Double Indemnity
Leo McCarey - Director - Going My Way - It should have gone to Billy Wilder for Double Indemnity, he stuck his foot out and tripped up McCarey as he walked to the stage to pick up his undeserved Oscar.
Liz Taylor - Butterfield Eight - It should have been Jean Simmons, who wasn't even Nominated for Elmer Gantry.
I could write a book on who should and should not have won the Oscar, only someone beat me to it. A brilliant job he did too, and I am always checking it to see just how often I agree with Danny Peary, the author of the very entertaining and extremely well researched, "Alternative Oscars."
Shirley Maclaine, fellow Best Actress nominee for 'The Apartment' was asked how she felt about Elizabeth's winning the Oscar, she sourly remarked: "I lost out to a tracheotomy." :eek::D
I wouldn't go that far. The poster you responded to might not share your opinion as well as mine, but it's a valid opinion that's bound to be held by those perplexed by the accolades heaped on those actors (accolades deserved, IMO).
As much as I really like The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, I was pretty shocked that Taraji P. Henson won an Oscar for it - I really don't think the role was anything special, and it does sort of sway me to agree with the comments in here about black actors being at an inherent advantage. I unfortunately felt exactly the same way about Octavia Spencer.
Have to disagree about Natalie Portman - I know she had all that controversy about not doing the dancing for Black Swan, but for me it was her performance that sold the film, and I really do think she was phenomenal towards the end.
I agree that Meryl Streep got her most recent Oscar for the wrong film - I think The Iron Lady was such a cliché award-bait film that it was almost ridiculous, and it just seemed the done thing that she should get one for it.
I tend to question the nominees more than the winners though. I was really staggered that Johnny Depp got a nomination for the first Pirates film (!?).
As much as I really like The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, I was pretty shocked that Taraji P. Henson won an Oscar for it - I really don't think the role was anything special, and it does sort of sway me to agree with the comments in here about black actors being at an inherent advantage.
She didn't win. Penelope Cruz took the Best Supporting Actress Oscar that year (2008) for Vicky Cristina Barcelona.
Shirley Maclaine, fellow Best Actress nominee for 'The Apartment' was asked how she felt about Elizabeth's winning the Oscar, she sourly remarked: "I lost out to a tracheotomy." :eek::D
Exactly, the hypocrisy of Hollywood, they gave her the Oscar for NOT dying in the London Clinic. :rolleyes:
I wouldn't go that far. The poster you responded to might not share your opinion as well as mine, but it's a valid opinion that's bound to be held by those perplexed by the accolades heaped on those actors (accolades deserved, IMO).
I'm surprised some of you didn't think Tom Hanks deserved it for Philadelphia. He clearly did.
It isn't as simple as that. You forget what a competitive year that was - Liam Neeson was up for Schindler's List, Daniel Day Lewis for In the Name of the Father, Anthony Hopkins for The Remains of the Day... IMO one of the best ever years for the Best Actor list. Tom Hanks would have deserved it in most years but I would have given it to Liam Neeson that year - and I'm certainly not the only person who would have given it to someone other than Tom Hanks. They were all worthy winners that year (well, maybe not Laurence Fishburne).
It was a tough year but Liam's most memorable scene in Schindler's came right at the end. The rest of the movie belonged to Ralph Fiennes and Embeth Davidtz
It was a tough year but Liam's most memorable scene in Schindler's came right at the end. The rest of the movie belonged to Ralph Fiennes and Embeth Davidtz
Maybe, but at least three, maybe four or five, of those nominees deserved the Oscar that year, and I don't think Tom Hanks was the very best of all those performances, even though he was brilliant.
It's like how it's quite widely agreed that Hugh Jackman definitely would have won for Les Miserables last year (although that was a ridiculously quiet year and any of this year's nominees would probably have won last year) and I really think he deserved one this year objectively speaking, but it seems fairly established that he was roundly beaten by DDL.
On an entirely unrelated note, I'm glad no one's mentioned Heath Ledger (I think) because it really riles me when people who haven't seen the film think he only got the Oscar because of his death. He would and should have won that Oscar in any year under any circumstances.
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Totally agree. I think the best example is Paul Newman. He was nominated so many times in roles that are now seen as legendary (Hud, Cool Hand Luke, Hustler), but was finally given it for Color of Money. He was also given a Lifetime achievement award in 1986 since they thought he may not put in another great performance. The same can be said for Peter O'Toole for Lawrence of Arabia.
I've just said the same thing in another thread. If any actor needs to see one performance on how to act and not overact, then it's this one. And I include Daniel Day Lewis in that advice too!:D
Yeah, it was Al's time. He should have perhaps got it for either The Godfather Part 2 or Dog Day Afternoon.
In 1992, it should have probably been between Clint Eastwood for Unforgiven or Robert Downey Jnr. for Chaplin. On balance I think that Robert Downey Jnr. should have got it.
Don't forget that Al was also nominated for Glengarry Glen Ross that year as well. 1992 just seemed to be his year.
Shirley Maclaine, fellow Best Actress nominee for 'The Apartment' was asked how she felt about Elizabeth's winning the Oscar, she sourly remarked: "I lost out to a tracheotomy." :eek::D
Agree wityh this. Ellen Burstyn was phenominal in that film, but prehaps the film was a little too edgy for the safe Academy Award voters??
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I wouldn't go that far. The poster you responded to might not share your opinion as well as mine, but it's a valid opinion that's bound to be held by those perplexed by the accolades heaped on those actors (accolades deserved, IMO).
Sorry, I haven't got any spare change.
Have to disagree about Natalie Portman - I know she had all that controversy about not doing the dancing for Black Swan, but for me it was her performance that sold the film, and I really do think she was phenomenal towards the end.
I agree that Meryl Streep got her most recent Oscar for the wrong film - I think The Iron Lady was such a cliché award-bait film that it was almost ridiculous, and it just seemed the done thing that she should get one for it.
I tend to question the nominees more than the winners though. I was really staggered that Johnny Depp got a nomination for the first Pirates film (!?).
She didn't win. Penelope Cruz took the Best Supporting Actress Oscar that year (2008) for Vicky Cristina Barcelona.
She didn't? Apologies. Still, I don't think it was worthy of a nomination either. Everything that made that role interesting was all in the script.
What, all of them? Even My Left Foot and Sophie's Choice?
Exactly, the hypocrisy of Hollywood, they gave her the Oscar for NOT dying in the London Clinic. :rolleyes:
This.
Not all. Meryl's "The Iron Lady" and DDL's "There will be blood"
Oh dear, is that the sum total of your argument?
You need to learn to distinguish between opinion and fact, a challenging concept I know.....
It isn't as simple as that. You forget what a competitive year that was - Liam Neeson was up for Schindler's List, Daniel Day Lewis for In the Name of the Father, Anthony Hopkins for The Remains of the Day... IMO one of the best ever years for the Best Actor list. Tom Hanks would have deserved it in most years but I would have given it to Liam Neeson that year - and I'm certainly not the only person who would have given it to someone other than Tom Hanks. They were all worthy winners that year (well, maybe not Laurence Fishburne).
Maybe, but at least three, maybe four or five, of those nominees deserved the Oscar that year, and I don't think Tom Hanks was the very best of all those performances, even though he was brilliant.
It's like how it's quite widely agreed that Hugh Jackman definitely would have won for Les Miserables last year (although that was a ridiculously quiet year and any of this year's nominees would probably have won last year) and I really think he deserved one this year objectively speaking, but it seems fairly established that he was roundly beaten by DDL.
On an entirely unrelated note, I'm glad no one's mentioned Heath Ledger (I think) because it really riles me when people who haven't seen the film think he only got the Oscar because of his death. He would and should have won that Oscar in any year under any circumstances.
Totally agree with all off these!