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500quid max a week cap on benefits!

mills705mills705 Posts: 556
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I'm only 24 and earn 15000 a year before tax. This equates to 1100 take home after. I get commission but it's a couple of hundred a month.

Now 500 a week equates to 2250 a month in the pocket of claimants pockets. A lot more than I am on!

I can't get why they are complaining! It's nearly double my money and they don't even do any work for it!
It's my hard earned cash going in their back pockets!

This attitude of living off the state saddens me. Get up and do some work!!
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    tellywatcher73tellywatcher73 Posts: 4,181
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    Some of these people will be severely disabled and that money does not all go in their pocket, most of it will be rent and council tax benefits. Don't judge everybody as lazy scroungers, as much as the current government wants us to.
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    ZiQiZiQi Posts: 194
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    My ex with two kids living with her (not my kids) gets on benefits £1,500 per month and then on top of that gets her rent and council tax paid for,
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    CaldariCaldari Posts: 5,890
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    Oh look, it's yet another benefits thread.
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    I don't get £500 a week, nothing like.
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    sandydunesandydune Posts: 10,986
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    ZiQi wrote: »
    My ex with two kids living with her (not my kids) gets on benefits £1,500 per month and then on top of that gets her rent and council tax paid for,
    how is that possible?:confused: are you making that up?:confused:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 914
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    mills705 wrote: »
    I'm only 24 and earn 15000 a year before tax. This equates to 1100 take home after. I get commission but it's a couple of hundred a month.

    Now 500 a week equates to 2250 a month in the pocket of claimants pockets. A lot more than I am on!

    I can't get why they are complaining! It's nearly double my money and they don't even do any work for it!
    It's my hard earned cash going in their back pockets!

    This attitude of living off the state saddens me. Get up and do some work!!

    The main reason there are so many unemployed in this country is mass immigration, which was done deliberately to import cheap foreign labour and drive down wages, thereby increasing the profits of the very rich.
    There are 5 times as many unemployed people as there are vacancies, so it would be impossible for them all to 'get up and and do some work'.
    Recessions are caused by the rich not by the poor; the poor don't have the power to influence the economy. This current economic downturn was caused by the greed of bankers and hedge-fund managers, and yet amazingly we look to punish the unemployed and disabled for mistakes made by the capitalist barons.
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    TWSTWS Posts: 9,307
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    sandydune wrote: »
    how is that possible?:confused: are you making that up?:confused:

    It's not unless there are disabilities and other stuff weighing in, wouldn't get 1500 including council tax and housing
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    Kolin KlingonKolin Klingon Posts: 4,296
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    Yes and now back to the reality of £64.30 JSA that the vast majority get.

    That's £3343.60 a year!
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    modeyinkmodeyink Posts: 2,251
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    Very few people will be getting £500 a week. Relax.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,845
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    500*52=26,000

    This is higher or equivalent to the average national wage. Nobody should work for a living.
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    kramstan70kramstan70 Posts: 428
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    sandydune wrote: »
    how is that possible?:confused: are you making that up?:confused:

    Yes I think he is. Unless there are any disability benefits being paid together with the main benefits then that figure sounds very high to me.
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    kyresakyresa Posts: 16,629
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    sandydune wrote: »
    how is that possible?:confused: are you making that up?:confused:


    I'd also be interested to see how that is made up!
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    SoupbowlSoupbowl Posts: 2,172
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    They get how much?! They need cutting and cutting hard.
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    CaldariCaldari Posts: 5,890
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    Yes and now back to the reality of £64.30 that the vast majority get.

    That's £3343.60 a year!

    A close mate of mine was recently made redundant from his job, he now gets a whopping £70 per week. Bit of a change from his previous salary of around the £55,000 mark.
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    tghe-retfordtghe-retford Posts: 26,449
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    More pit the benefit claimants against the workers to "divide and rule" without actually knowing what the criteria for help is.

    Like being seriously disabled and unable to work, for example.

    Workers also are entitled to claim some benefits and tax credits too.

    To those complaining about the cap, what do you think it should be? I suspect there will be people out there praying one day it'll be £0 a week.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 904
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    I wonder how many actually get the maximum. Do people really still get outraged by this rubbish.
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    tghe-retfordtghe-retford Posts: 26,449
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    Soupbowl wrote: »
    They get how much?! They need cutting and cutting hard.
    A bit of mythbusting - every benefit claimant does not get £500 a week.

    Again, people are taking one extreme example (ie. like with Heather Frost at the weekend) and declaring it the norm for everyone on benefits.
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    kramstan70kramstan70 Posts: 428
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    500*52=26,000

    This is higher or equivalent to the average national wage. Nobody should work for a living.

    The reality is that the Benefit Cap will mainly affect larger families or those living in areas with high rental costs as this amount also includes housing costs. £500 pw is the maximum amount for a couple or lone parent; the amount for a single person is £350 pw inclusive of housing costs.
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    It's now unclear whether the average pay, that it's now being compared to, is £500 per week before or after tax and NI.

    I've understood recently that median pay in the UK was around £26,000 before tax. On the BBC News tonight £500pw was referred to as the "average after tax".

    They interviewed a woman with three children, who's "only" getting £613 a week from the taxpayer. That's £31, 998, presumably untaxed. No mention of how much she's getting from the childrens' father(s).

    I also noticed that there was an ashtray with a single cigarette end in - hers or the interviewer's?
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    Speak-SoftlySpeak-Softly Posts: 24,737
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    Yes and now back to the reality of £64.30 JSA that the vast majority get.

    That's £3343.60 a year!

    Is not rent/council tax paid?
    All the free dentistry/opticians/prescriptions?
    Why don't you include that?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 904
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    jsmith99 wrote: »

    They interviewed a woman with three children, who's "only" getting £613 a week from the taxpayer. That's £31, 998, presumably untaxed. No mention of how much she's getting from the childrens' father(s).

    A week? I'm sure that was per month.
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    SoupbowlSoupbowl Posts: 2,172
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    Cb paid for two children upto 16, exceptions for twins etc, jsa paid for 6 weeks only, most people could find work within 6 weeks albeit not in their preferred field, but the state can't afford to support people dawdling to fulfill their pipe dreams. Total benefits cap £12,000, before tax stand fast disabled people who go through the pip scheme. Anyone got any other good ideas?
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    Flat MattFlat Matt Posts: 7,023
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    mills705 wrote: »
    I'm only 24 and earn 15000 a year before tax. This equates to 1100 take home after. I get commission but it's a couple of hundred a month.

    Now 500 a week equates to 2250 a month in the pocket of claimants pockets. A lot more than I am on!

    I can't get why they are complaining! It's nearly double my money and they don't even do any work for it!
    It's my hard earned cash going in their back pockets!

    This attitude of living off the state saddens me. Get up and do some work!!

    Well done on swallowing the government bullshit that demonises the unemployed and disabled.
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    ............. that money does not all go in their pocket, most of it will be rent and council tax benefits................

    Which those of us who are working (or retired) have to pay from taxed income. The fact that some of the money goes on primary living expenses, even directly, doesn't alter the fact that it's all income.
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    ZiQiZiQi Posts: 194
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    sandydune wrote: »
    how is that possible?:confused: are you making that up?:confused:

    No, sadly.

    The one is on low-rate DLA for personal reasons, but in all honestly there is nothing wrong other than lazy parent not looking after the little one, and the specialist at the centre even told her that too.

    With the Halifax tells you how much each month you had going into the account and it was the £1,500 in benefits.

    With Birmingham council as it was council house, they get that paid direct, you just get your statement showing it has been paid and there is nothing for you to pay.

    So, yeah, it's the £1,500 plus the rent and council tax.

    That's why she was abroad 4 - 5 times a year, in fact she's off again in a couple of days all-inclusive.
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