that money does not all go in their pocket, most of it will be rent and council tax benefits. .
when people have a job they have to pay rent and council tax! the OP has £1100 per month presumably around £400-£500 of that will be rent plus he will have to pay council tax
when people have a job they have to pay rent and council tax! the OP has £1100 per month presumably around £400-£500 of that will be rent plus he will have to pay council tax
So he'd have around £600 left if he was on JSA he'd only have around £300.
There are only a handful (if that) of areas where a single person on benefits would be better off than someone working full time on minimum wage.
Are you referring to legal tax avoidance or illegal tax evasion
'Legal tax avoidance', and who exactly makes it legal or at least influences it greatly to be? Yes, that's right, the very people who sway power and benefit from it the most.
It's morally bankrupt and you well know it.
It's not just that, but it puts out of business genuine business who are more than willing to pay their share of tax and contribute to our society. If these scammers avoiding tax don't like the way things are, clear off and let a genuine business set up in their place who are willing to pay their dues, and not be priced out by a load of tax avoiding crooks.
You are still financially better off than what you would be claiming JSA, though. Do you think £71 a week is too high? If you do what would you pay instead?
Another thing people don't seem to be taking into acount is that housing benefit covers the rent depending on what that is (up to a maximum) so where I live I could get just over £400 for a 1 bed flat but if I was renting a flat for £300 I'd only get £300. However I work and I choose to live in a house share because I don't want to spend half my earnings on rent and bills. I'm not sure this makes sense what I am trying to say is that a person who is earning can have more choice on how much money they have.
Perhaps, instead of cutting the £71pw JSA, they could raise the tax threshold and/or reduce the tax rate, for single people on lowish salaries?
On average, I pay more in NI and Income Tax, than I pay in Rent and CT.
Yes, why not? After all, the government justified the top tax reduction from 50% to 45% partly on the grounds that more money in the pocket means more to spend and thus to help the economy recover. So why not raise the starting tax threshold by 5% as well? What's good for the goose...
You still have to sensible, in regard to priorities.
Self esteem doesn't come before staying alive and healthy.
So do you conceed that a life on the dole is not something someone aspires to, I know you think its only 80 a week better off, but I bet the people on 71 a week after paying for gas elec food etc would love an extra 80 pound, but to do that they have to go out and find a low paying job, risk losing the security of the home over their families head and having to put them all in a bedsit.
People get trapped into the benefits system sometimes, so the better thing for the government to do would be to raise the minimum wage so that people like yourself that want to have a job for self esteam can be rewarded for your hard work.
Being honest, your not a great advert for getting up and on with it, you come across as very bitter and miserable, and unhappy with your life. Perhaps your not like that at all, and are a very happy person, but from reading the post on this thread thats the impression I have of you.
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when people have a job they have to pay rent and council tax! the OP has £1100 per month presumably around £400-£500 of that will be rent plus he will have to pay council tax
That just the same as people legally claiming benefits that are rightfully theres, and benefit fraud
So he'd have around £600 left if he was on JSA he'd only have around £300.
There are only a handful (if that) of areas where a single person on benefits would be better off than someone working full time on minimum wage.
I can't feed and house myself, on the wages paid for voluntary work.
What job do you do BB? (if you don't mind my asking)
But the extra, from working, isn't exactly huge.
IIRC, earlier in the thread, we worked it out that, by working, I'm around £80pw better off, than if I were on the dole.
'Legal tax avoidance', and who exactly makes it legal or at least influences it greatly to be? Yes, that's right, the very people who sway power and benefit from it the most.
It's morally bankrupt and you well know it.
It's not just that, but it puts out of business genuine business who are more than willing to pay their share of tax and contribute to our society. If these scammers avoiding tax don't like the way things are, clear off and let a genuine business set up in their place who are willing to pay their dues, and not be priced out by a load of tax avoiding crooks.
Suffice it to say, I work in a service industry.
I only got £67 on JSA so it does depend on who you are choosing to make that comparison
You are still financially better off than what you would be claiming JSA, though. Do you think £71 a week is too high? If you do what would you pay instead?
You said it was about self esteem, not necessity.
Why?.
Of course I'm a bit better off, but c£80 extra, for 50+ hours is a joke.
I can't eat and drink self esteem,
Perhaps, instead of cutting the £71pw JSA, they could raise the tax threshold and/or reduce the tax rate, for single people on lowish salaries?
On average, I pay more in NI and Income Tax, than I pay in Rent and CT.
That is not relavant to the OP you replied to.
You did not mention anything about eating or drinking, you said you felt self esteem by working in a low paid job.
That is not relevant to the OP you replied to.
You did not mention anything about eating or drinking, you said you felt self esteem by working in a low paid job.
Self esteem doesn't come before staying alive and healthy.
Yes, why not? After all, the government justified the top tax reduction from 50% to 45% partly on the grounds that more money in the pocket means more to spend and thus to help the economy recover. So why not raise the starting tax threshold by 5% as well? What's good for the goose...
Yes but were a comparing low paid work to being on the dole.
So do you conceed that a life on the dole is not something someone aspires to, I know you think its only 80 a week better off, but I bet the people on 71 a week after paying for gas elec food etc would love an extra 80 pound, but to do that they have to go out and find a low paying job, risk losing the security of the home over their families head and having to put them all in a bedsit.
People get trapped into the benefits system sometimes, so the better thing for the government to do would be to raise the minimum wage so that people like yourself that want to have a job for self esteam can be rewarded for your hard work.
Being honest, your not a great advert for getting up and on with it, you come across as very bitter and miserable, and unhappy with your life. Perhaps your not like that at all, and are a very happy person, but from reading the post on this thread thats the impression I have of you.