The only problem I had with this is the mother seems too young to have a 15 year old daughter. If this is intentional then fair enough, maybe linking in with her own daughter running off with a older lad etc...but didn't sit quite right to me.
Also the fathers reaction, I know he's holding it in, but it's all a bit too distanced, no emotion at all, again maybe intentional, he has something to hide, but if so it's over played.
Apart from them two minor points I really enjoyed it and will be watching next week. Nice to see Tennant is something like this, been under used as a tv actor due to his dr who connection.
Wasnt it mentioned that the mother was fifteen when she fell pregnant? It was mentioned in an interview that the fathers seeming lack of emotion is intentional. I think the policewoman may have noted his 'cold' behaviour on the way to identify the body with him stopping to sign the petition etc.
Incidentally for all of us shallow viewers who liked the actor playing the journalist
The actor has stated he has a full nude scene coming up in a future episode - unless they cut it.
Wasnt it mentioned that the mother was fifteen when she fell pregnant? It was mentioned in an interview that the fathers seeming lack of emotion is intentional. I think the policewoman may have noted his 'cold' behaviour on the way to identify the body with him stopping to sign the petition etc.
But that sort of stuff is true to life. If you are in a crisis situation and someone who doesn't know this starts talking to you about something trivial, you don't scream and burst into tears, you just get away as quickly as possible.
I'm amazed that people think there is only one way to react to sudden bereavement, and that if someone doesn't conform to that there's something dodgy going on.
I hope they don't carry that attitude into real life.
But that sort of stuff is true to life. If you are in a crisis situation and someone who doesn't know this starts talking to you about something trivial, you don't scream and burst into tears, you just get away as quickly as possible.
I'm amazed that people think there is only one way to react to sudden bereavement, and that if someone doesn't conform to that there's something dodgy going on.
I hope they don't carry that attitude into real life.
I thought that the fathers reaction was very realistic and actually quite moving. He had a quiet stillness about him, like he was desperately trying to hold it all together. It was a nice touch when he called his son by his pet name in the mortuary.
I was more annoyed by the police woman's tears, but that's because I'm still puzzled as to why she's allowed to work on the case.
A odd one this - the very unrealistic town but more realistic depiction of grief than most cop dramas. Although we don't really have any idea who is guilty we are in cliche territory over some sub-plots - the cop with a past - the ambitious journalist at the small town newspaper. Despite the attempt at Scandic noir or whatever it seems to be just surface with a pretty conventional drama under it. David Tennant is more cardboard cutout than star but I suppose his past is going to be revealed .... slowly. Well will give it another week I suppose but I am feeling that it will get more cliche ridden. Bit of Scandic musak and showing grief more openly does not a Killing make. Well with this and Mayday will avoid all small towns from now on!
i saw a bit of this today, having recorded it last night, i thought it was quite good if a little predictable; i thought the father behaved very strangely...:o
The only problem I had with this is the mother seems too young to have a 15 year old daughter. If this is intentional then fair enough, maybe linking in with her own daughter running off with a older lad etc...but didn't sit quite right to me.
Also the fathers reaction, I know he's holding it in, but it's all a bit too distanced, no emotion at all, again maybe intentional, he has something to hide, but if so it's over played.
Apart from them two minor points I really enjoyed it and will be watching next week. Nice to see Tennant is something like this, been under used as a tv actor due to his dr who connection.
I don't have a problem with the story having a woman who had her first child aged 15 with a young boy aged 17 at the time. The problem I had was with the family scene in the kitchen.
For the life of me, I just could not tell who was playing what role. At one point when the man kissed the schoolgirl, Chloe, on top of her head, I thought how weird that an older brother would kiss his kid sister like that. Then I thought, "oh no, the guy is that young woman's boyfriend", and then, "Would the woman's boyfriend kiss her daughter like that?" And then I thought, "Nah, the schoolgirl and bloke are together." But then nothing they were saying made sense to fit that image. And even then, I wasn't sure who the schoolgirl was or at least how old she was meant to be until she met up with her boyfriend. I couldn't immediately connect with them as a family unit.
What also annoyed me was the female detective allowed to work on the case, despite her relative closeness to Daniel and his family. I wouldn't be surprised by some cliched scene where she is pulled off the case because of some conflict of interest or some serious mistake she's made as a result, which was already flagged up earlier in the case re: her nephew journalist and she telling the DI that her son was friends with Daniel. And somehow I'm supposed to be drawn to her empathy? Nah, sorry - more likely to be furious if she balls up the case in any way.
I thought this was excellent and much better than Mayday that's over on BBC1. Olivia Colman is so talented. She makes me believe in every character that she plays. I can't wait to see her character develop over the next seven episodes. My first instinct is that her husband is responsible for the boy's death.
The scenery is lovely to look at as well. Overall, some very emotional and believable performances. I can't believe that reporter was Vicky McClure - I didn't even realise :eek: she looked so different compared to her character in Line of Duty on BBC2.
My moneys on the secret boyfreind. Noticed he had big hands when he put them around the little lads sisters neck to kiss her.. I bet Daniel found out about them
He was 11? Didn't realise that - you need to be 13 to do a paper round so probably the shop keeper did it to cover up child labour..........:D
My son did a paper round at 11 and got up on his own each morning, but I am sure I would have known if he hadn't gone. It's 24 years ago though so maybe not acceptable today.
i really enjoyed it, i did think the dad lacked emotions but WTF do i know? how the hell does anyone know unless they have lost a child. Which i think must be the hardest thing in the world to have to go through. I do believe however that screaming and wailing isnt always more when your body is complete and utter shock at a bereavment. So signing petitions, not wanting to appear rude to people and trying to stay strong for your loved ones didnt come across to strange.
Too early to name any suspects for me, and even if i did im sure the first episode will be full of red herrings anyway.
I knew i recognised the mother - as someone posted already she was in Marchlands (Ruth i think)
My son did a paper round at 11 and got up on his own each morning, but I am sure I would have known if he hadn't gone. It's 24 years ago though so maybe not acceptable today.
I remember my local newsagent stopped having paper boys (that sounds so wrong lol) because he was told he would have to take out some kind of insurance to cover the lads if anything happened to them like dog bites..or slipping on ice that sort of thing.
I remember my local newsagent stopped having paper boys (that sounds so wrong lol) because he was told he would have to take out some kind of insurance to cover the lads if anything happened to them like dog bites..or slipping on ice that sort of thing.
Gotta love H & S, when i did a paper round Triceratops was still about and no one gave a monkeys that i was 11 or if i was slipping on ice or getting bitten by dogs- you just emptied the bag and went back for your wages
My moneys on the secret boyfreind. Noticed he had big hands when he put them around the little lads sisters neck to kiss her.. I bet Daniel found out about them
Or I could be totally wrong
what was Tom deleting from his phone and computer I wonder?
Whodunnit? My money is on the creepy guy in the van who picks up the dad in the morning.
Whoisit? Have i got it wrong but is the uniformed policewoman the daughter from Howard's Way? If so isn't getting old unfair?
Yes it is - but Howard's Way was some time ago, so I think she's allowed to get old! The last time I saw her was in Born and Bred in the early 00s - not sure if she's been in anything much between then and now.
what was Tom deleting from his phone and computer I wonder?
They can retrieve deleted phone messages these days can't they? And 'deleted' on a computer doesn't really mean deleted if you know what you're doing and where to look on the hard drive. I'd expect everyone's phones and computers to be check in some depth as part of any investigation like this, so it'll probably come out at some point what the messages were about. Plus they wouldn't have made such a big deal about the friend deleting them if they weren't going to form part of the ongoing story line - it's just a question of how long they'll make viewers wait before they move that part of the story on!
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Wasnt it mentioned that the mother was fifteen when she fell pregnant? It was mentioned in an interview that the fathers seeming lack of emotion is intentional. I think the policewoman may have noted his 'cold' behaviour on the way to identify the body with him stopping to sign the petition etc.
Incidentally for all of us shallow viewers who liked the actor playing the journalist
But that sort of stuff is true to life. If you are in a crisis situation and someone who doesn't know this starts talking to you about something trivial, you don't scream and burst into tears, you just get away as quickly as possible.
I'm amazed that people think there is only one way to react to sudden bereavement, and that if someone doesn't conform to that there's something dodgy going on.
I hope they don't carry that attitude into real life.
I thought that the fathers reaction was very realistic and actually quite moving. He had a quiet stillness about him, like he was desperately trying to hold it all together. It was a nice touch when he called his son by his pet name in the mortuary.
I was more annoyed by the police woman's tears, but that's because I'm still puzzled as to why she's allowed to work on the case.
@Jake_Kanter: ITV’s David Tennant drama Broadchurch launched with 6.78m (28.14%), forcing Mayday down 2m to 4.3m (17.85%).
I don't have a problem with the story having a woman who had her first child aged 15 with a young boy aged 17 at the time. The problem I had was with the family scene in the kitchen.
For the life of me, I just could not tell who was playing what role. At one point when the man kissed the schoolgirl, Chloe, on top of her head, I thought how weird that an older brother would kiss his kid sister like that. Then I thought, "oh no, the guy is that young woman's boyfriend", and then, "Would the woman's boyfriend kiss her daughter like that?" And then I thought, "Nah, the schoolgirl and bloke are together." But then nothing they were saying made sense to fit that image. And even then, I wasn't sure who the schoolgirl was or at least how old she was meant to be until she met up with her boyfriend. I couldn't immediately connect with them as a family unit.
What also annoyed me was the female detective allowed to work on the case, despite her relative closeness to Daniel and his family. I wouldn't be surprised by some cliched scene where she is pulled off the case because of some conflict of interest or some serious mistake she's made as a result, which was already flagged up earlier in the case re: her nephew journalist and she telling the DI that her son was friends with Daniel. And somehow I'm supposed to be drawn to her empathy? Nah, sorry - more likely to be furious if she balls up the case in any way.
I wonder how they are going to spread this over eight weeks? I prefer it to be like Mayday over five nights, which I am also enjoying.
The scenery is lovely to look at as well. Overall, some very emotional and believable performances. I can't believe that reporter was Vicky McClure - I didn't even realise :eek: she looked so different compared to her character in Line of Duty on BBC2.
Bit confused by people saying it was slow. They're building it up and I thought they did it very well.
It's a bit odd that their 11 year old son is always up before everyone and no one normally sees him in the morning.
Also the policewoman is annoying me. She shouldn't be on the case at all, blubbering everywhere.
He was 11? Didn't realise that - you need to be 13 to do a paper round so probably the shop keeper did it to cover up child labour..........:D
Whoisit? Have i got it wrong but is the uniformed policewoman the daughter from Howard's Way? If so isn't getting old unfair?
Or I could be totally wrong
My son did a paper round at 11 and got up on his own each morning, but I am sure I would have known if he hadn't gone. It's 24 years ago though so maybe not acceptable today.
Too early to name any suspects for me, and even if i did im sure the first episode will be full of red herrings anyway.
I knew i recognised the mother - as someone posted already she was in Marchlands (Ruth i think)
great cast look forward to next week
I remember my local newsagent stopped having paper boys (that sounds so wrong lol) because he was told he would have to take out some kind of insurance to cover the lads if anything happened to them like dog bites..or slipping on ice that sort of thing.
Gotta love H & S, when i did a paper round Triceratops was still about and no one gave a monkeys that i was 11 or if i was slipping on ice or getting bitten by dogs- you just emptied the bag and went back for your wages
what was Tom deleting from his phone and computer I wonder?
Yes it is - but Howard's Way was some time ago, so I think she's allowed to get old! The last time I saw her was in Born and Bred in the early 00s - not sure if she's been in anything much between then and now.
I bet it was pictures they had taken of his sister with the boyfreind ....
They can retrieve deleted phone messages these days can't they? And 'deleted' on a computer doesn't really mean deleted if you know what you're doing and where to look on the hard drive. I'd expect everyone's phones and computers to be check in some depth as part of any investigation like this, so it'll probably come out at some point what the messages were about. Plus they wouldn't have made such a big deal about the friend deleting them if they weren't going to form part of the ongoing story line - it's just a question of how long they'll make viewers wait before they move that part of the story on!