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Endless plugs for Sky services on Sky News

mike1948mike1948 Posts: 2,157
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Is it me or has Sky vastly increased the number of promotional ads on Sky News for other Sky services?

I have no intention of having any premium Sky services and even if I were a customer, I would not want to watch endless promos for something I already had.

They are having the opposite effect to that intended because they are making me switch to the BBC News Channel.

It is a shame because Sky News is quite good otherwise.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    These sort of promotions are perfectly common across the media - Express Newspapers constantly promote C5 (without declaring they own it) and almost always their ''pick of the day'' is a C5 programme despite the fact it is clearly not the best of the night.Not sure what you can do to stop this.And of course the BBC News channel promotes BBC programmes at virtually every junction.
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    CocaColaCocaCola Posts: 463
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    mike1948 wrote: »
    Is it me or has Sky vastly increased the number of promotional ads on Sky News for other Sky services?

    I have no intention of having any premium Sky services and even if I were a customer, I would not want to watch endless promos for something I already had.

    They are having the opposite effect to that intended because they are making me switch to the BBC News Channel.

    It is a shame because Sky News is quite good otherwise.

    What do you expect when you watch COMMERCIAL television?
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    Steveaustin316Steveaustin316 Posts: 15,779
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    Doesn't bother me, Sky own the channel so why not promote their own services?
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    JELLIES0JELLIES0 Posts: 6,709
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    CocaCola wrote: »
    What do you expect when you watch COMMERCIAL television?

    Doesn't the BBC do exactly the same ? Foe example have you ever seen a report of severe weather conditions on BBC TV news which didn't contain a big big plug for "your BBC local radio station" ? ;)

    There are countless other examples of the beeb cross promoting it's services.
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    JordyDJordyD Posts: 4,007
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    mike1948 wrote: »
    Is it me or has Sky vastly increased the number of promotional ads on Sky News for other Sky services?

    I have no intention of having any premium Sky services and even if I were a customer, I would not want to watch endless promos for something I already had.

    They are having the opposite effect to that intended because they are making me switch to the BBC News Channel.

    It is a shame because Sky News is quite good otherwise.

    I agree, it's excessive on Sky News, a lot more so than BBC News. Especially when these services are premium. Some of the sports presenters also seem like they're going through their worst nightmare presenting. Horrible to watch. It's actually hard work to watch Sky News these days, same goes for SSN.

    I hate it when BBC Weather drops stuff in too, you can watch this on BBC blah blah..., I'm not watching the weather for that...
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    fastest fingerfastest finger Posts: 12,872
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    JELLIES0 wrote: »
    Doesn't the BBC do exactly the same ? Foe example have you ever seen a report of severe weather conditions on BBC TV news which didn't contain a big big plug for "your BBC local radio station" ? ;)

    There are countless other examples of the beeb cross promoting it's services.

    One could argue that with the BBC it's slightly different, as they have a duty to make viewers aware of all the services available to them through the licence fee.

    Equally, a more cynical person might say they have an interest in making sure that these multiple BBC services are well utilised in order justify their own existence and guarantee future funding.
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    emmetmclemmetmcl Posts: 2,577
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    I don't mind Sky plugging their services, however, what does annoy me is the endless plugs on Apple devices, i.e. iPad etc.
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    BigOrangeBigOrange Posts: 59,674
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    ftv wrote: »
    These sort of promotions are perfectly common across the media - Express Newspapers constantly promote C5 (without declaring they own it) and almost always their ''pick of the day'' is a C5 programme despite the fact it is clearly not the best of the night.Not sure what you can do to stop this.And of course the BBC News channel promotes BBC programmes at virtually every junction.
    Pick up The Sun and it's the same. Today a pitiful sounding show called "I Heart Glee" was flagged up as some sort of highlight. The channel? Sky1 of course. :rolleyes:
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    pedrokpedrok Posts: 16,769
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    I find, when referring to services on the i-pad as being free to Sky customers, annoying. They are not free, you have to pay for Sky in the first place.
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    krooneykrooney Posts: 628
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    The channel is on Freeview so a great way to try and tempt viewers to Sky Digital.
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    pedrokpedrok Posts: 16,769
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    krooney wrote: »
    The channel is on Freeview so a great way to try and tempt viewers to Sky Digital.

    Yip, you are right. Sky news is on Freeview.

    Ignore my earlier comment:D
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    CaxtonCaxton Posts: 28,881
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    I think what is annoying to many is that it keeps reminding them what they are missing and the programmes they could be watching if they subscribe to them, quite useful to know what is coming on Sky's other channels to their subscribers though.

    It is just advertising, the BBC do enough of it, by plugging their future programmes and they are not even a commercial station but then everyone can watch all the BBC channels so people do not mind so much as they have the ability to see anything they advertise without subscribing.
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    JordyDJordyD Posts: 4,007
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    As I've brought up before, there's also endless time wasting on the channel, obivously all this cross promoting takes valuable time away from news covering, so does telling you what's coming up every five minutes and constantly reminding you what programme or channel your watching.

    There was a point in the not so distant past where they name checked the same programme 4 times verbally in a matter of 5 minutes.

    The presenter used to say, "coming up on sky news at ten" then the toth sequence "on sky news at ten" then announcer saying "this is sky news at ten" then straight after that "good evening, this is sky news at ten", all between .57 and .02.
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    carl.waringcarl.waring Posts: 35,726
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    ftv wrote: »
    And of course the BBC News channel promotes BBC programmes at virtually every junction.
    Indeed. For a whole... what... 2 mins per hour.
    JELLIES0 wrote: »
    Doesn't the BBC do exactly the same?
    Not for 12 mins per hour :)
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    swillsswills Posts: 4,004
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    ftv wrote: »
    These sort of promotions are perfectly common across the media - Express Newspapers constantly promote C5 (without declaring they own it) and almost always their ''pick of the day'' is a C5 programme despite the fact it is clearly not the best of the night.Not sure what you can do to stop this.And of course the BBC News channel promotes BBC programmes at virtually every junction.

    The wife recorded a flim on '5' the other week, before it started there were at least 5 (five) trails for other 5 programmes coming up in the near future, then after about 4 mins the film started, and more trails mid film
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    mikwmikw Posts: 48,715
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    Caxton wrote: »
    I think what is annoying to many is that it keeps reminding them what they are missing and the programmes they could be watching if they subscribe to them, quite useful to know what is coming on Sky's other channels to their subscribers though.

    It is just advertising, the BBC do enough of it, by plugging their future programmes and they are not even a commercial station but then everyone can watch all the BBC channels so people do not mind so much as they have the ability to see anything they advertise without subscribing.

    It's not really "advertising" in the strictest sense of the word, but they've always done it. Often because they can't show "actual" adverts and programmes are rarely an exact lenght.

    These gaps used to be filled with "The potter's wheel" and an announcer reading through a menu. Or a highlight reel of what was coming up during the evening.

    Bizarelly, the highlight reel was voiced (at one time) by Bruce Hamill, who has been the "Voice of Sky" for pretty much it's entire existence.
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    am1969am1969 Posts: 311
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    Wish they would call it a day with SKY 3D. Does anyone really watch this channel?
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    These promos are also on Pick TV and Challenge - they don't bother me as they're just another rubbish advert (but not as annoying as the Go Compare ones).
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 121
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    Does anyone still watch the adverts? Thought that was the main benefit of Sky+, you just time-shift and fast-forward through the breaks?
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    The BBC used to remorselessly plug the Radio Times but they were stopped eventually, I think it was on the grounds of unfair competition.
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    human naturehuman nature Posts: 13,371
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    ftv wrote: »
    The BBC used to remorselessly plug the Radio Times but they were stopped eventually, I think it was on the grounds of unfair competition.
    According to Wiki it was the BBC themselves that decided to drop advertising Radio Times, following an internal commercial review in 2005. Previously, there had been complaints from other listings magazines that Radio Times was advertised on the BBC, saying it gave unfair advantage to the publication. The case went to court, but the outcome was that as the Radio Times had close connections with the BBC it would be allowed to be advertised by the BBC.
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    mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    ftv wrote: »
    The BBC used to remorselessly plug the Radio Times but they were stopped eventually, I think it was on the grounds of unfair competition.

    That came about because originally the listing magazines (Radio Times and TV Times at that point) could not carry listings from the other broadcaster, they could only carry their own TV & radio listings. So it was acceptable that the BBC plugged its own magazine, as it affected only the BBC.

    Subsequently, after the deregulation of TV listings in 1991, allowing magazines to carry listings from all broadcasters, other TV listings magazines became available - this is when problems arose:
    In the years after deregulation of television listings in 1991, there was outcry from other listings magazines that Radio Times was advertised on the BBC (as well as on commercial channels), saying it gave unfair advantage to the publication. The case went to court, but the outcome was that as the Radio Times had close connections with the BBC it would be allowed to be advertised by the BBC; however, it must be a static picture of the cover, and that the clear disclaimer "Other television listings magazines are available" be given (leading to the phrase entering common public usage for a time).[citation needed] By the early 2000s, advertisements for the publication had become sparse on the BBC, and BBC magazines, including the Radio Times, have not been advertised nor promoted on BBC television and radio channels since 2005, following a commercial review by the BBC.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Times
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    Is it really unreasonable that channels promote their own programmes ? And I'm sure I've seen adverts for Sky and Virgin on ITV and C4.Most viewers are sophisticated enough to make up their own minds.
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    derek500derek500 Posts: 24,892
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    ftv wrote: »
    Is it really unreasonable that channels promote their own programmes ? And I'm sure I've seen adverts for Sky and Virgin on ITV and C4.Most viewers are sophisticated enough to make up their own minds.

    ..and recently ITV have been advertising their dramas on Sky and C4.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,470
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    I found via "Digtal Spy" users "Sky Sports Radio" so I gave it a listen two or three times and every add break was all about plugging the idea that without Sky my life is almost poitless.
    The point that was made by "mike1948" was not that the promotions are there but the increase in the number of them. The fact is I have given up with their sporty radio station and if I watch anything on any commercial channel I record it and skipp through the adds at X30 which is much more fun than watching trailers for stuff I will never watch. Sometimes we get trailers for programmes which are in an advert break and the programme that has been interupted is the same programme as the one they are saying we should be watch. God gave us the fast forward device for a reason, Bless him. I must admit that the BBC sneaky adds have now got to two and sometimes three promos and so it is back to the fast forward button once more, I will need more batteries soon!
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