I'm sp glad Our Girl had good ratings. It deserved to be at least a million higher but It will timeshift to 6.5million which is great and it gained viewers throughout the hour and a half which is fantastic.
I am hoping that Doctor Who makes 6million plus and The Voice makes around 8-9million.
Peter Kay has only really done stuff for C4 hasn't he? Maybe this is another case of the Jay Hunt affect - Shane Allen is pretty scathing of her as are so many other people in the TV industry. Reading that interview I think the Beeb could have a very good man in charge with Shane Allen - i thought at first he was mainly into niche stuff but this appears not to be so.
I've long thought its a bit odd how Peter Kay had never done anything for ITV or the BBC considering how mainstream he is. I'm sure ITV must of tried to entice him before. Quite a coup for BBC One.
Yeah, Peter Kay has always made his shows for C4 although his Top of the Tower DVD, which C4 now regularly shows, actually premiered on TV on Channel 5, at eleven o'clock at night in 2001.
Although I thought his continued presence on C4 was ridiculous anyway, he's far too mainstream a performer and it completely undermined everything C4 said about being committed to new and upcoming talent. When you think of all the talent C4 gave their big break to who had to go to other channels to actually get famous - Simon Amstell, Lucas and Walliams - who C4 never seemed that bothered with nurturing or finding the right format for.
And indeed Kay's early years on C4 hardly saw him get the channel's full backing, the first series of Phoenix Nights was dumped out on Sunday nights and it was only after the second repeat they actually seemed interested.
Think Allen is fighting a losing battle trying to find a vehicle for Frankie Boyle, mind. He used to be a good stand-up but these days he comes across as just an idiot, and his C4 series was truly awful. Not cos it was controversial, cos it was boring.
Rating of the day for me was Countryfile's. Delivering 6.3m against Corrie when it's in the middle of a big plot. Maybe BBC1 should stick CF on every weeknight at 7pm in place of The One Show. Mix it in with Coast. Anything to get rid of Matt Baker and Alex Jones' consistently mind-numbingly terrible interviews with "tonight's studio guest". They look as if they've won a competition to interview a celebrity in a Newsround competition.
I think Countryfile might be a stumbling block if ITV ever wanted to bring back C/S on Sunday nights as a half hour from 7.30. Countryfile starting at 7.00 would be a niggling opposition.
EDIT: Ofcourse you realise you wouldnt be getting rid of Matt Baker in that case
Peter Kay has only really done stuff for C4 hasn't he? Maybe this is another case of the Jay Hunt affect - Shane Allen is pretty scathing of her as are so many other people in the TV industry. Reading that interview I think the Beeb could have a very good man in charge with Shane Allen - i thought at first he was mainly into niche stuff but this appears not to be so.
I've long thought its a bit odd how Peter Kay had never done anything for ITV or the BBC considering how mainstream he is. I'm sure ITV must of tried to entice him before. Quite a coup for BBC One.
Very intriguing the iPlayer experiment, will be very interesting to see how it affects ratings.
It is, though having got him lets hope the show is worth the wait.
Yeah, Peter Kay has always made his shows for C4 although his Top of the Tower DVD, which C4 now regularly shows, actually premiered on TV on Channel 5, at eleven o'clock at night in 2001.
Although I thought his continued presence on C4 was ridiculous anyway, he's far too mainstream a performer and it completely undermined everything C4 said about being committed to new and upcoming talent. When you think of all the talent C4 gave their big break to who had to go to other channels to actually get famous - Simon Amstell, Lucas and Walliams - who C4 never seemed that bothered with nurturing or finding the right format for.
And indeed Kay's early years on C4 hardly saw him get the channel's full backing, the first series of Phoenix Nights was dumped out on Sunday nights and it was only after the second repeat they actually seemed interested.
Think Allen is fighting a losing battle trying to find a vehicle for Frankie Boyle, mind. He used to be a good stand-up but these days he comes across as just an idiot, and his C4 series was truly awful. Not cos it was controversial, cos it was boring.
Channel 4 did well with The Eleven O'Clock Show which brought us people like Ricky Gervais and Sacha Baron Cohen, they managed to do well with Alan Carr who I imagine has had offers to jump ship, same with Jimmy Carr although I don't think he's exclusive to Channel 4.
I wonder if Ricky Gervais offered Derek to The BBC or was it always intended for Channel 4.
I think Countryfile might be a stumbling block if ITV ever wanted to bring back C/S on Sunday nights as a half hour from 7.30. Countryfile starting at 7.00 would be a niggling opposition.
I could well imagine that if ITV did that, then, in the Autumn, BBC1 would quite happily carry on with their normal schedule - i.e
just to scare ITV off. I'm convinced ITV moved their soap hour from Sunday purely because Emmerdale kept getting trouched by Strictly in their head-to-head clash.:p
EDIT: Ofcourse you realise you wouldnt be getting rid of Matt Baker in that case
Yes, but at least he wouldn't be conducting any mind-numbingly terrible studio interviews with bored actors who quite clearly want to be "anywhere-but-here". He's bareable in CountryFile. I'd even be happy for Alex Jones to sent a few reports for various country festivals, just as long as she's not asking Matt Lucas or Jack Dee what he thinks about Matt Allwright's report on Iain Duncan Smith's welfare reforms.:rolleyes:
BBC1 just ran a trailer for its Easter Weekend. The Voice, The Village, Jonathan Creek, Miranda Hart On Eric Morecambe and Dr Who all together in one tuneful trailer.
I would be surprised if this doesn't have any effect on Saturday Night Takeaway's rating if momentum continues in the latter part of the week.
Bad news for The Voice, if Ant and Dec to number 1 does continue to gain traction. I'm not sure who would benefit more ratings wise from the continued bad weather, I think ITV would.
I do wonder if ITV expected it to take off (and to put a spoiler into The Voice publicity) or whether it is just a coincidence. Fantastic coincidence for them, regardless.
and this ladies and gentlemen, is why we dont want Top of the Tops back.
Also (and whilst I am not an ITV viewer) why is Ant, wearing a Tampa Bay jersey, and an Atlanta Braves hat? they are 438 miles away from each other. He could have worn a Tampa Bay Rays hat,
Who thought Foyle would be only 1.4m ahead of Our Girl and only 1.6m ahead of Antiques Roadshow - and only 350k ahead of Countryfile that should have been squished by the rampant Corrie?
Without Corrie, you can't help wondering whether Foyle would have even cleared 6m - we know how much the audience dropped off.
BBC1 just ran a trailer for its Easter Weekend. The Voice, The Village, Jonathan Creek, Miranda Hart On Eric Morecambe and Dr Who all together in one tuneful trailer.
Good. At least the cold snap continuing will minimise the risk of the overnights getting barbecued, and I don't see millions dashing to the beach either and lingering over their return home....
Good night for ITV and BBC1. Corrie pulled in a decent 8.4m and then a huge 707k on +1. :eek: Think that's the biggest Corrie +1 figure ever! FW did very well. The Corrie lead-in obviously helped.
Shame about Person of Interest slipping. 800k with +1 is OK but yet another schedule change (moving it to 10pm for the last 2 weeks) doesn't seem to be the best way to treat the programme. It's a great show. Channel 5 don't seem to have much faith in it.
Reading that interview I think the Beeb could have a very good man in charge with Shane Allen - i thought at first he was mainly into niche stuff but this appears not to be so.
I read that this morning. He's certainly quite a strong character!
I particularly enjoyed:
He adds: "What Jay never really got was that in order for me to attract to the channel the rebels, the mavericks, the anti-authority malcontents who populate comedy, I had to have that spirit myself. Otherwise I'm just some dick in an expensive jacket spouting meaningless buzzwords about seeking ideas which are bold, original, edgy, spiky … once these have been used in regard to some lame gameshow – as I've seen happen – then the jig's up."
Quite refreshing to anyone whose ever sat through one of those tedious 'Meet the Controller' sessions at the Edinburgh TV Festival. Everyone always bangs on about wanting "bold, original, edgy" stuff then goes and commissions the usual knock-offs anyway.
The iPlayer move with comedy is interesting. It does seem to me like Allen has spotted the massive trouble BBC One has been having launching primetime sitcoms over the past 5 years. The iPlayer route seems like another option to join the 10.35 slot and BBC Two/Three as places to try and grow new hits, rather than hoping they'll work straight out of the box.
Can I also say a final farewell to BBC HD, which goes to its grave in 2 hours time?
It has only been part of my life since June last year, but it has taken up a disproportionately large amount of my TV viewing, being one of only 4 HD channels I have had since the summer.
It feels a retrograde step to welcome 40 year old Dad's Army repeats onto one of my HD channels. But it does remove an anomaly, and means we will hopefully get more accurate overnights and officials for BBC2 programmes now.
I hope the bandwith permits it to return some time soon, reincarnated as the home of BBC3/4/3D high def programming.
Did we ever get to the bottom of how the Beeb is going to air future 3D trial programming now?
Is it just my imagination or is there an error with the C4 ratings listings? I'm pretty sure on my EPG that is was The Secret Millions on C4 at 20.00 not The Secret Millionaire.
Channel 4 did well with The Eleven O'Clock Show which brought us people like Ricky Gervais and Sacha Baron Cohen, they managed to do well with Alan Carr who I imagine has had offers to jump ship, same with Jimmy Carr although I don't think he's exclusive to Channel 4.
I couldn't see Alan Carr working anywhere else though - and the BBC wouldn't want to end up with another Graham Norton situation where they sign someone up and have no show for them, so end up giving them any old Saturday night dross even though their strengths lie elsewhere. (That said Alan Carr has a Radio 2 show I believe).
Can I also say a final farewell to BBC HD, which goes to its grave in 2 hours time?
It has only been part of my life since June last year, but it has taken up a disproportionately large amount of my TV viewing, being one of only 4 HD channels I have had since the summer.
It feels a retrograde step to welcome 40 year old Dad's Army repeats onto one of my HD channels. But it does remove an anomaly, and means we will hopefully get more accurate overnights and officials for BBC2 programmes now.
I hope the bandwith permits it to return some time soon, reincarnated as the home of BBC3/4/3D high def programming.
Did we ever get to the bottom of how the Beeb is going to air future 3D trial programming now?
For once I'm in agreement with you. They've not said anything about how 3D will be done - I suspect in the short term they'll just use the Olympic channel as and when required (it's the only way they can do it), but I'd have thought sooner rather than later ITV or C4 would want to try and snap up that stream, especially now ITV HD channels are not exclusive to Sky. As nice as it would be for BBC HD to continue to offer BBC3 and BBC4 in HD I do think it would be wrong for the BBC to have 3 of the 5 HD channels on Freeview.
Is it just my imagination or is there an error with the C4 ratings listings? I'm pretty sure on my EPG that is was The Secret Millions on C4 at 20.00 not The Secret Millionaire.
It is Secret Millions that is airing, though it is essentially Celebrity Secret Millionaire funded by the National Lottery.
Peter Kay has only really done stuff for C4 hasn't he? Maybe this is another case of the Jay Hunt affect - Shane Allen is pretty scathing of her as are so many other people in the TV industry. Reading that interview I think the Beeb could have a very good man in charge with Shane Allen - i thought at first he was mainly into niche stuff but this appears not to be so.
I've long thought its a bit odd how Peter Kay had never done anything for ITV or the BBC considering how mainstream he is. I'm sure ITV must of tried to entice him before. Quite a coup for BBC One.
Very intriguing the iPlayer experiment, will be very interesting to see how it affects ratings.
Shane Allen has been part of, and run, a very successful C4 comedy department over the 7 years. The fact he has brought Peter Kay with him shows a sign of how powerful/well respected he his. By the sounds of things, Hunt capped his creative freedom; and unlike Hunt, he can take a joke. The article gives a really good insight into what has happened in the last couple of years (commissioning-wise) at C4, and what he aims to do at the BBC.
Yeah, Peter Kay has always made his shows for C4 although his Top of the Tower DVD, which C4 now regularly shows, actually premiered on TV on Channel 5, at eleven o'clock at night in 2001.
Although I thought his continued presence on C4 was ridiculous anyway, he's far too mainstream a performer and it completely undermined everything C4 said about being committed to new and upcoming talent. When you think of all the talent C4 gave their big break to who had to go to other channels to actually get famous - Simon Amstell, Lucas and Walliams - who C4 never seemed that bothered with nurturing or finding the right format for.
And indeed Kay's early years on C4 hardly saw him get the channel's full backing, the first series of Phoenix Nights was dumped out on Sunday nights and it was only after the second repeat they actually seemed interested.
Think Allen is fighting a losing battle trying to find a vehicle for Frankie Boyle, mind. He used to be a good stand-up but these days he comes across as just an idiot, and his C4 series was truly awful. Not cos it was controversial, cos it was boring.
Channel 4, new and upcoming talent? Remind me; Hilary Devey, Jimmy Doherty; both new and upcoming?!
I don't think Frankie Boyle is an idiot. I fully understand why he left Mock the Week. Everyone I know would agree in saying that the show has gone downhill since he left. Anyone who takes everything he says seriously is very narrow minded, and can't take a joke.
Shane Allen has been part of, and run, a very successful C4 comedy department over the 7 years. The fact he has brought Peter Kay with him shows a sign of how powerful/well respected he his. By the sounds of things, Hunt capped his creative freedom; and unlike Hunt, he can take a joke. The article gives a really good insight into what has happened in the last couple of years (commissioning-wise) at C4, and what he aims to do at the BBC.
Jay Hunt is even managing to make David Cameron look competent.
Shame about Person of Interest slipping. 800k with +1 is OK but yet another schedule change (moving it to 10pm for the last 2 weeks) doesn't seem to be the best way to treat the programme. It's a great show. Channel 5 don't seem to have much faith in it.
I don't think you can fairly or reasonably blame C5 for PoI not catching on in the way that it ought to have done. That's not to say they haven't made mistakes with it, indeed they have and I've commented on them in here various times previously, but overall it's been well supported for both the launch and the relaunch and so I tend to think if the programme was destined to be a big hit it would have come through regardless.
Certainly it was given every chance in August when they gave it the CSI slot which to them was a big deal and it didn't really fire in the way they expected from there. Then they decided to have the hiatus (which I disagree with, I rather think it should have moved straight away to another slot that was less performance dependent) and now it's come back in another key timeslot for them only to underwhelm once again, leaving them little choice but to push it back. It is of course a great programme and this is reflected in the consolidated audiences of around 1.5m which unfortunately only tell half the story. I'd also suggest it wasn't helped by launching at 10pm and perhaps that got some into the habit of recording it very early on which they then persisted with, but their intentions were at least good leading out of a big CSI finale and IIRC they even removed the ad break between the two programmes to try and increase retention and ensure it made the best of that.
Anyway, I'd still like to think there's a future for it on 5USA if not on the main channel. But it's vulnerabilities have been exposed for all to see. C5 need to scan the datasheets thoroughly for slots where there's no obvious draws for young male audiences, a post-Top Gear slot might have sounded just right but C4 spoiled the party with a whole host of premieres geared towards this demographic. I think also a full rerun of Season 1 stripped every weeknight at 7pm could be worth a try. I know they had no joy when they tried that with Dallas, but if they go through the proper channels this time and advertise it in the TV listings then at worst it's not going to do much if any worse than their usual 7pm content and at best it might bring about some additional interest in the show ahead of Season 2, if they choose to continue with it.
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I am hoping that Doctor Who makes 6million plus and The Voice makes around 8-9million.
Yeah, Peter Kay has always made his shows for C4 although his Top of the Tower DVD, which C4 now regularly shows, actually premiered on TV on Channel 5, at eleven o'clock at night in 2001.
Although I thought his continued presence on C4 was ridiculous anyway, he's far too mainstream a performer and it completely undermined everything C4 said about being committed to new and upcoming talent. When you think of all the talent C4 gave their big break to who had to go to other channels to actually get famous - Simon Amstell, Lucas and Walliams - who C4 never seemed that bothered with nurturing or finding the right format for.
And indeed Kay's early years on C4 hardly saw him get the channel's full backing, the first series of Phoenix Nights was dumped out on Sunday nights and it was only after the second repeat they actually seemed interested.
Think Allen is fighting a losing battle trying to find a vehicle for Frankie Boyle, mind. He used to be a good stand-up but these days he comes across as just an idiot, and his C4 series was truly awful. Not cos it was controversial, cos it was boring.
Yep, Channel 4's sales force seem to be as inept as their commissioners and schedulers .:rolleyes:
That'll be because it overlapped with the BBC3-type drama on BBC1. They didn't think it through, as the Pub Landlord would say.
I think Countryfile might be a stumbling block if ITV ever wanted to bring back C/S on Sunday nights as a half hour from 7.30. Countryfile starting at 7.00 would be a niggling opposition.
EDIT: Ofcourse you realise you wouldnt be getting rid of Matt Baker in that case
It is, though having got him lets hope the show is worth the wait.
Channel 4 did well with The Eleven O'Clock Show which brought us people like Ricky Gervais and Sacha Baron Cohen, they managed to do well with Alan Carr who I imagine has had offers to jump ship, same with Jimmy Carr although I don't think he's exclusive to Channel 4.
I wonder if Ricky Gervais offered Derek to The BBC or was it always intended for Channel 4.
I could well imagine that if ITV did that, then, in the Autumn, BBC1 would quite happily carry on with their normal schedule - i.e
6.20 Countryfile
7.20 Strictly Results
8.00 Antiques Roadshow
just to scare ITV off. I'm convinced ITV moved their soap hour from Sunday purely because Emmerdale kept getting trouched by Strictly in their head-to-head clash.:p
Yes, but at least he wouldn't be conducting any mind-numbingly terrible studio interviews with bored actors who quite clearly want to be "anywhere-but-here". He's bareable in CountryFile. I'd even be happy for Alex Jones to sent a few reports for various country festivals, just as long as she's not asking Matt Lucas or Jack Dee what he thinks about Matt Allwright's report on Iain Duncan Smith's welfare reforms.:rolleyes:
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.@antanddec could be on course to knock @TheSaturdays off #Number1 on Sunday: http://goo.gl/lPgp8 #LetsGetReadyToRhumble
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I would be surprised if this doesn't have any effect on Saturday Night Takeaway's rating if momentum continues in the latter part of the week.
Bad news for The Voice, if Ant and Dec to number 1 does continue to gain traction. I'm not sure who would benefit more ratings wise from the continued bad weather, I think ITV would.
I do wonder if ITV expected it to take off (and to put a spoiler into The Voice publicity) or whether it is just a coincidence. Fantastic coincidence for them, regardless.
Also (and whilst I am not an ITV viewer) why is Ant, wearing a Tampa Bay jersey, and an Atlanta Braves hat? they are 438 miles away from each other. He could have worn a Tampa Bay Rays hat,
Channel 5 (exc/inc +1)
13:40 - FILM: Legally Blonde (2001): 693k (5.3%) / 813k (6.2%)
15:30 - FILM: Getting Even with Dad (1994): 772k (4.8%) / 969k (5.9%)
17:45 - FILM: The Goonies (1985): 1.82m (7.8%) / 2.00m (8.6%)
20:00 - FILM: Miss Congeniality (2000): 1.48m (5.7%) / 1.63m (6.3%)
22:00 - Person of Interest: 715k (3.5%) / 811k (4.0%)
22:55 - FILM: The Exorcism of Emily Rose (2005): 331k (4.7%) exc +1
Good night for BBC1 really.
Who thought Foyle would be only 1.4m ahead of Our Girl and only 1.6m ahead of Antiques Roadshow - and only 350k ahead of Countryfile that should have been squished by the rampant Corrie?
Without Corrie, you can't help wondering whether Foyle would have even cleared 6m - we know how much the audience dropped off.
I'm the ying on this thread to the ITVista yang. That's all.
It said in The Times today that the aim is to show the series online towards the end of the year with the broadcast version a few weeks later.
Wonder if they are aiming to launch it on proper telly at Christmas?
Good. At least the cold snap continuing will minimise the risk of the overnights getting barbecued, and I don't see millions dashing to the beach either and lingering over their return home....
Shame about Person of Interest slipping. 800k with +1 is OK but yet another schedule change (moving it to 10pm for the last 2 weeks) doesn't seem to be the best way to treat the programme. It's a great show. Channel 5 don't seem to have much faith in it.
I read that this morning. He's certainly quite a strong character!
I particularly enjoyed:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/mar/24/bbc-comedy-boss-shane-allen
Quite refreshing to anyone whose ever sat through one of those tedious 'Meet the Controller' sessions at the Edinburgh TV Festival. Everyone always bangs on about wanting "bold, original, edgy" stuff then goes and commissions the usual knock-offs anyway.
The iPlayer move with comedy is interesting. It does seem to me like Allen has spotted the massive trouble BBC One has been having launching primetime sitcoms over the past 5 years. The iPlayer route seems like another option to join the 10.35 slot and BBC Two/Three as places to try and grow new hits, rather than hoping they'll work straight out of the box.
It has only been part of my life since June last year, but it has taken up a disproportionately large amount of my TV viewing, being one of only 4 HD channels I have had since the summer.
It feels a retrograde step to welcome 40 year old Dad's Army repeats onto one of my HD channels. But it does remove an anomaly, and means we will hopefully get more accurate overnights and officials for BBC2 programmes now.
I hope the bandwith permits it to return some time soon, reincarnated as the home of BBC3/4/3D high def programming.
Did we ever get to the bottom of how the Beeb is going to air future 3D trial programming now?
For once I'm in agreement with you. They've not said anything about how 3D will be done - I suspect in the short term they'll just use the Olympic channel as and when required (it's the only way they can do it), but I'd have thought sooner rather than later ITV or C4 would want to try and snap up that stream, especially now ITV HD channels are not exclusive to Sky. As nice as it would be for BBC HD to continue to offer BBC3 and BBC4 in HD I do think it would be wrong for the BBC to have 3 of the 5 HD channels on Freeview.
It is Secret Millions that is airing, though it is essentially Celebrity Secret Millionaire funded by the National Lottery.
Shane Allen has been part of, and run, a very successful C4 comedy department over the 7 years. The fact he has brought Peter Kay with him shows a sign of how powerful/well respected he his. By the sounds of things, Hunt capped his creative freedom; and unlike Hunt, he can take a joke. The article gives a really good insight into what has happened in the last couple of years (commissioning-wise) at C4, and what he aims to do at the BBC.
Channel 4, new and upcoming talent? Remind me; Hilary Devey, Jimmy Doherty; both new and upcoming?!
I don't think Frankie Boyle is an idiot. I fully understand why he left Mock the Week. Everyone I know would agree in saying that the show has gone downhill since he left. Anyone who takes everything he says seriously is very narrow minded, and can't take a joke.
You can still see him in Arrow on Sky 1
Certainly it was given every chance in August when they gave it the CSI slot which to them was a big deal and it didn't really fire in the way they expected from there. Then they decided to have the hiatus (which I disagree with, I rather think it should have moved straight away to another slot that was less performance dependent) and now it's come back in another key timeslot for them only to underwhelm once again, leaving them little choice but to push it back. It is of course a great programme and this is reflected in the consolidated audiences of around 1.5m which unfortunately only tell half the story. I'd also suggest it wasn't helped by launching at 10pm and perhaps that got some into the habit of recording it very early on which they then persisted with, but their intentions were at least good leading out of a big CSI finale and IIRC they even removed the ad break between the two programmes to try and increase retention and ensure it made the best of that.
Anyway, I'd still like to think there's a future for it on 5USA if not on the main channel. But it's vulnerabilities have been exposed for all to see. C5 need to scan the datasheets thoroughly for slots where there's no obvious draws for young male audiences, a post-Top Gear slot might have sounded just right but C4 spoiled the party with a whole host of premieres geared towards this demographic. I think also a full rerun of Season 1 stripped every weeknight at 7pm could be worth a try. I know they had no joy when they tried that with Dallas, but if they go through the proper channels this time and advertise it in the TV listings then at worst it's not going to do much if any worse than their usual 7pm content and at best it might bring about some additional interest in the show ahead of Season 2, if they choose to continue with it.