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Doctor Who is getting too childish
Scorpio2
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I have found series 7b of Who to be very childish. The episodes are like something you would see on CBBC.
I wish they would be more grown up like they were from series 1/5.
I wish they would be more grown up like they were from series 1/5.
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You have give me a challenge and I would like to accept it.
Burping bins. They were included in an episode were scary Autons that killed people on the street.
Farting aliens. In an episode where the Big Ben is destroyed and downing blown up.
Blowjob from a paving stone. In an episode where several people are killed in a horrific way and a woman is trapped as a paving stone forever.
Now I admit they were childish things in the episodes but the rest of their episodes were quite dark.
This will please Robert Banks Stewart.
Tell you what, you post a list of things that you think have been childish in recent episodes and I imagine people will have little difficulty doing what you have done here in response.
But seriously, how many threads like this do we need? Although that said, there is currently one on the front page already claiming "all the story so far seem too complexed" .
So which is it? childishly complicated or complicatedly childish?
As a Libra I try to find balance
And both groups are talking rubbish.
It's not childish and it's not too complicated.
rise and shine and don't forget your booties....
For God sake, there have only been 4 episodes of Series 7 Part 2, you can hardly claim Doctor Who is childish now based solely on that...especially since you'd have to be clinically insane to claim that Cold War deserves to be on CBBC.
Anyway, the main characters of practically every CBBC show are children and I can't think of a single CBBC drama which doesn't feature children/teenagers heavily.
Are for it being childish well I'm not sure the only childish episodes in my opinion were Closing time and Dinasaurs on a spaceship.
a blow job is not childish
The blowjob happened in series 2.
I think people will disagree what qualifies as 'quite dark'. Watching Doctor Who, you become quite desensitised to death quite quickly. The darkness lies in the 'execution'.
My counter challenge would be that the nu-Who Autons - when defeated, flailing about like dancers doing the robot - looked very childish, and like something out of a CBBC show. In my opinion.
A Slitheen's last words before Downing St is blown up: "Oh bo-". Not childish, but not exactly adult either. Children leap on sneaky swears if they're old enough.
Woman trapped as a paving stone... the theme of the curse of immortality was hardly a prominent one there. The alien-of-the-week's northern accent and scooby-doo chases received much more air time.
In 7B, Cold War was set in ... the Cold War. That's pretty dark. The alien-of-the-week disembowels several crew members of a submarine. Pretty grim stuff.
Hide featured a character who was, spiritually, 'brought back to life', moving on from a sordid past. The Doctor was trapped, afraid, in a pocket universe with a (then-supposed) nasty creature. Pretty dark.
And Celia Imrie's character's 'demise' in The Bells of St John would at the very least bring a lump to your throat if you've had experience with a sufferer of Alzheimers.
I'm not saying one is darker than the other. Rather, child-like nuances always have and should always remain in Who. The balance may change from time to time, but variety is good.
Yes I know that. I was watching it with my mates sons who were 9 & 11 .the 9 year said to after the line that they have s love life, shes give him blowjobs,
Au contraire.
Evidence at random: 'Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps' is easily one of the most childish programmes of the last decade.
People have been saying RTD was childish by including Farting aliens and Blowjobs but Stephen Moffat included Dinosaurs acting like pets and Cunnilingus, so you know. And then saying that RTD included those and this series has had sad deaths, dark ships, a terrified Doctor, etc. When RTD era had that too. Sad deaths, dark ships and a terrified Doctor. People seem to be looking at it from the point of view of their argument a bit and ignoring the fast BOTH eras have silly aspects and adult aspects.
Also, Silly and Adult aren't mutually exclusive. And nor is childish and complicated. Card games for example are for children but are darn complicated.
So yeah.
Why is it, when someone states Doctor Who is getting too childish. You always get that ^^ in response.
It's a tired come back that has been said countless times, and it doesn't hold any more truth now, than it did the first time it was said.
RTD, for the most part wrote Doctor Who so that everyone could enjoy it. Moffat on the other hand, only seems to write what he thinks is enjoyable. That's the difference.
From the episodes he has wrote, from when he took over, I can count the number of episodes that for me had the wow factor, on one hand.
Nothing against Matt Smith, as he only does what he is told to and apart from that, I think he makes an excellent Doctor. But I do think that if RTD were still in control, or better yet, Gatiss then Doctor Who would be back being enjoyed by everyone, be they young, old, fans or casual viewers.
Yes I know people can quote me viewing figures that state, just as many people are watching it now, but I just don't believe it. For the simple reason is, Doctor Who is not the 'must see' programme it once was.
Too many people I know personally, will watch if it's on, but are not bothered either way. Whereas when the story's appealed to a wider audience, most if not all of those same said people would purposely stay in to watch.
You're seriously ignoring the factual evidence of ratings and AI figures, taken from a sample of 5,000 people but instead going with "Too many people I know personally, will watch if it's on, but are not bothered either way." Right... OK then