All this really emphasises is that there is so much bloatware and rubbish that tends to come pre-installed on new PCs (especially crippling on the more budget models).
All this really emphasises is that there is so much bloatware and rubbish that tends to come pre-installed on new PCs (especially crippling on the more budget models).
Only if you know what you're doing. The average user won't even be aware of all the crap, let alone what to remove. In Control Panel, you might find a dozen Toshiba or Sony programs. Some are needed, some are shite. It's not always easy to tell which is which. In Services or Start-up, you'll find numerous cryptically named manufacturer files, which again can be difficult to know whether or not it's safe to disable.
Manufacturers can do a fantastic job of crippling an otherwise perfectly decent machine. And that's not even taking into account the endless pop-ups telling the user to 'register this, do this, do that'.
Well I'm going to put Windows on my Macbook Pro after all. Managed to get a copy of W7 after all. I'm going to collect it sometime this week. I daresay it'll be an interesting experience
Only if you know what you're doing. The average user won't even be aware of all the crap, let alone what to remove. In Control Panel, you might find a dozen Toshiba or Sony programs. Some are needed, some are shite. It's not always easy to tell which is which. In Services or Start-up, you'll find numerous cryptically named manufacturer files, which again can be difficult to know whether or not it's safe to disable.
Manufacturers can do a fantastic job of crippling an otherwise perfectly decent machine. And that's not even taking into account the endless pop-ups telling the user to 'register this, do this, do that'.
The trend has been much improved on newer PCs, especially in the case of Windows 8 ones where OEMs have put some of their bloatware as metro apps which are easily ignored or uninstalled and don't impact system performance like a Win32 application would.
The trend has been much improved on newer PCs, especially in the case of Windows 8 ones where OEMs have put some of their bloatware as metro apps which are easily ignored or uninstalled and don't impact system performance like a Win32 application would.
See, Metro is good I hate when they put all that crapware on. And some programmes even try to trick you. On my new laptop some programme wanted me to register it and said the programme was free. So I did. And then it said it's free for 30 days :rolleyes: So I thought, pity you are not staying and removed the bloody thing. But yes, mostly there are some Metro apps that I just unpinned and they can sit there waiting.
I'm installing Windows 7 on my Macbook Pro at the moment and I must admit it's going very well. Mum doesn't understand why though :rolleyes: She can be so thick when it comes to technology. It took her ages to figure out how to use the cable box for the TV and she even has trouble operating her phone. She doesn't have a smartphone either, she only has a fairly basic feature phone. She can't operate the DVD player and she had trouble programming the VCR in the old days.
Bit late to the party but who ever did this has clearly never had to live with Windows on an MBP. Yeah, fantastic hardware and lovely screen but OMFG Apple's Window's drivers are shocking, 6 hours battery life in OSX, < 2h in Windows, crappy WiFi, shocking support for external monitors (well, projectors), I could go on. And no it's not Windows, other manufacturers perform better with worse hardware. Apple can not and should not be allowed to write code for Windows.
Bit late to the party but who ever did this has clearly never had to live with Windows on an MBP. Yeah, fantastic hardware and lovely screen but OMFG Apple's Window's drivers are shocking, 6 hours battery life in OSX, < 2h in Windows, crappy WiFi, shocking support for external monitors (well, projectors), I could go on. And no it's not Windows, other manufacturers perform better with worse hardware. Apple can not and should not be allowed to write code for Windows.
What a crook of poop.
A good example is with the MBP 15", in OS X, the computer switches between integrated and the discrete graphics as needed. In windows the discrete graphics are permanently running. Windows is capable of switching between discrete and Intel graphics but Apple doesn't let it.
I've got it installed now and it's actually working rather well. It's better than using a dedicated Windows laptop because you're using stock Windows without a PC manufacturer's bloatware. When my dad got his W7 laptops he had to remove all the Norton and McAfee trials and other junk the machine came with.
I had 2 viruses on the Windows side of my MBP earlier. Unbelievable I've only had Windows on there a day and I'm already getting viruses. And no I didn't look at anything dodgy
I just struggle with the keyboards either way round. I'm fluent on OSX with an OSX keyboard but the whole ctrl/windows/apple key thing throws me entirely if its not on the correct OS.
I had 2 viruses on the Windows side of my MBP earlier. Unbelievable I've only had Windows on there a day and I'm already getting viruses. And no I didn't look at anything dodgy
This just goes to show that some people are ideally suited to owning a Mac.
This just goes to show that some people are ideally suited to owning a Mac.
Absolutely. For 2 viruses to allegedly find their way onto a fresh system in such a short time scale implies user negligence. The only solution for that is training, but since the whole thread is a troll lets just roll with it.
Absolutely. For 2 viruses to allegedly find their way onto a fresh system in such a short time scale implies user negligence. The only solution for that is training, but since the whole thread is a troll lets just roll with it.
I didn't do anything stupid. I just installed a few games I downloaded and yes they were legal. They were games I paid for. I don't need training. I've been using computers since I was 6 and I never had any training. Everything I know is self-taught. However I've been using OSX since 2010 and I never had any viruses until last week.
You managed to get infected within a day. A Day. Other people manage to go decades without being infected.
When I was using Windows XP I managed to get infected with the Blaster worm and several other nasties, despite having Norton Antivirus which was updated often, usually on a Wednesday. Maybe I just don't have much luck with Windows
I use a Mac Book Pro at work, and it runs Windows better in a Virtual Machine using Pararalls Desktop 8 then my Acer Intel i5, 8 Gig RAM laptop. In fact i can run the new Sim City game inside a virtual machine fine which is amazing in its self. I can run Windows 7 in a resolution of 2880 x1800 on a 15" screen, its just bonkers. I only have the Virtual Machines running Windows 7 for applications not available on the Mac. But the way you can enter 'coherence' with the software makes it the best virtualisation experience i have had on any platform.
When you go to places like dell and try to get a laptop thats even close to the Mac Book Pros spec you are almost at Mac Book Pro prices so your not really paying a premium. Yes the spec might be overkill for most users buts its one great piece of kit and has given me the best Windows experience i have had on any piece of hardware yet even if under virtualstion,
I use a Mac Book Pro at work, and it runs Windows better in a Virtual Machine using Pararalls Desktop 8 then my Acer Intel i5, 8 Gig RAM laptop. In fact i can run the new Sim City game inside a virtual machine fine which is amazing in its self. I can run Windows 7 in a resolution of 2880 x1800 on a 15" screen, its just bonkers. I only have the Virtual Machines running Windows 7 for applications not available on the Mac. But the way you can enter 'coherence' with the software makes it the best virtualisation experience i have had on any platform.
When you go to places like dell and try to get a laptop thats even close to the Mac Book Pros spec you are almost at Mac Book Pro prices so your not really paying a premium. Yes the spec might be overkill for most users buts its one great piece of kit and has given me the best Windows experience i have had on any piece of hardware yet even if under virtualstion,
But you haven't specified in what ways it runs better than your Acer?
When I was using Windows XP I managed to get infected with the Blaster worm and several other nasties, despite having Norton Antivirus which was updated often, usually on a Wednesday. Maybe I just don't have much luck with Windows
Blaster was a worm, not a virus (does this sound familiar?:cool:) and was primarily caused by people having direct connections to the internet without any firewall. Thankfully every man and his dog uses a router now and the windows firewall is on by default even if it is mostly untouched.
As you say you definitely didn't go on any dodgy websites to source your games, the only other explanation I could think of for you managing to infect your day old system would be if you plugged in a contaminated flash drive. This is why it is important to have AV on all your endpoints.
I use a Mac Book Pro at work, and it runs Windows better in a Virtual Machine using Pararalls Desktop 8 then my Acer Intel i5, 8 Gig RAM laptop. In fact i can run the new Sim City game inside a virtual machine fine which is amazing in its self. I can run Windows 7 in a resolution of 2880 x1800 on a 15" screen, its just bonkers. I only have the Virtual Machines running Windows 7 for applications not available on the Mac. But the way you can enter 'coherence' with the software makes it the best virtualisation experience i have had on any platform.
When you go to places like dell and try to get a laptop thats even close to the Mac Book Pros spec you are almost at Mac Book Pro prices so your not really paying a premium. Yes the spec might be overkill for most users buts its one great piece of kit and has given me the best Windows experience i have had on any piece of hardware yet even if under virtualstion,
The macbook pro is easily the best laptoop I've owned. As you say it's not as overpriced as some people think, and they do hold residual value better which gives them a pretty good cost of ownership compared to other premium laptops.
It's almost worth the premium price for the brilliant multi-touch track pad, I've yet to find any other manufacture come close to having a usable track pad
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Most people don't though.
I did.
My old macbook pro ran windows 7 until i sold it.
The whole article is idiocy though, and only an idiot would believe it. Benchmark a clean install windows laptop then we can discuss it.
Yes, for a couple of old programs I wished to continue using.
All of which is easily removed though.
Only if you know what you're doing. The average user won't even be aware of all the crap, let alone what to remove. In Control Panel, you might find a dozen Toshiba or Sony programs. Some are needed, some are shite. It's not always easy to tell which is which. In Services or Start-up, you'll find numerous cryptically named manufacturer files, which again can be difficult to know whether or not it's safe to disable.
Manufacturers can do a fantastic job of crippling an otherwise perfectly decent machine. And that's not even taking into account the endless pop-ups telling the user to 'register this, do this, do that'.
The trend has been much improved on newer PCs, especially in the case of Windows 8 ones where OEMs have put some of their bloatware as metro apps which are easily ignored or uninstalled and don't impact system performance like a Win32 application would.
See, Metro is good
What a crook of poop.
A good example is with the MBP 15", in OS X, the computer switches between integrated and the discrete graphics as needed. In windows the discrete graphics are permanently running. Windows is capable of switching between discrete and Intel graphics but Apple doesn't let it.
This just goes to show that some people are ideally suited to owning a Mac.
What makes you think that?
I didn't do anything stupid. I just installed a few games I downloaded and yes they were legal. They were games I paid for. I don't need training. I've been using computers since I was 6 and I never had any training. Everything I know is self-taught. However I've been using OSX since 2010 and I never had any viruses until last week.
You managed to get infected within a day. A Day. Other people manage to go decades without being infected.
Maybe spend less time being superficial and more time actually learning.
When I was using Windows XP I managed to get infected with the Blaster worm and several other nasties, despite having Norton Antivirus which was updated often, usually on a Wednesday. Maybe I just don't have much luck with Windows
When you go to places like dell and try to get a laptop thats even close to the Mac Book Pros spec you are almost at Mac Book Pro prices so your not really paying a premium. Yes the spec might be overkill for most users buts its one great piece of kit and has given me the best Windows experience i have had on any piece of hardware yet even if under virtualstion,
But you haven't specified in what ways it runs better than your Acer?
As you say you definitely didn't go on any dodgy websites to source your games, the only other explanation I could think of for you managing to infect your day old system would be if you plugged in a contaminated flash drive. This is why it is important to have AV on all your endpoints.
The macbook pro is easily the best laptoop I've owned. As you say it's not as overpriced as some people think, and they do hold residual value better which gives them a pretty good cost of ownership compared to other premium laptops.
It's almost worth the premium price for the brilliant multi-touch track pad, I've yet to find any other manufacture come close to having a usable track pad