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Shooting in Woolwich, London

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    jriojrio Posts: 3,135
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    doom&gloom wrote: »
    Thousands of mainly white British people are fleeing London and this will increase the ratio.
    Haven't seen that on any news feeds, this "fleeing".

    Where have you seen it? Or do you mean that they are selling their over-priced London homes to buy cheaper homes away from London in pursuit of a better quality of life?
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    DixDix Posts: 79,316
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    Cameron coming back tomorrow,but he should have returned this evening, but no he has other agendas. He talking re economy isn't anything to do with what happened today. Mind you what can he do, as it's all up to each and every one of us to remain aware.
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    EurostarEurostar Posts: 78,519
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    No I don't think they are copying the IRA. The clearly waited for armed police and charged at them in an attempt to be killed. They could have charged at the police (unarmed) at the scene in the twenty mins before the armed police showed up.

    Yes, there was nothing suicidal about the IRA. There was never a single incident of a suicide bombing with them and they never wanted to be captured either.
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    Sniffle774Sniffle774 Posts: 20,290
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    stoatie wrote: »
    "White" Britain? I thought the EDL didn't give a shit about colour?

    Oops, they keep forgetting that don't they.
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    AdsAds Posts: 37,182
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    valkay wrote: »
    They have dragged their own names through the mud.

    Slightly racist comment!
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    TerryallgoldTerryallgold Posts: 1,208
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    vosne wrote: »
    You really are undermining yourself by saying silly things. Bit disappointing really. Can't you try harder?

    Not really, couldn't give a stuff this country went to the dogs decades ago. I am more interested in how history will show this country in decades to come. It is akin to how we look back at grave mistakes such as the recent scrapping of the coal industry in favour of Gas that we now pay an unaffordable high premium to our old enemy Russia. So in the future amid the chaos and social breakdown we will look back to the 70/80's and realise that we gave the country away. It makes sense to integrate with people who have something to offer the culture already here. We have gone a step further though we take on the worlds criminals as well as Doctors and Nurses.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,182
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    lemoncurd wrote: »
    Dunno, but we've had the Muslims and the Nigerians mentioned so far, so the more the merrier. I think one of the witnesses was reported as saying they were Somalian.

    The one guy I've seen pictures of didn't look Somalian to me.
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    Sarah.1987Sarah.1987 Posts: 1,332
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    Just heard about this, what a harrowing, appalling incident. I feel awful for the soldiers family.

    There are so many conflicting stories going around, can anyone give a rough indication of what actually happened? I've literally only just heard about this.
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    SpeedloaferSpeedloafer Posts: 2,407
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    jaceylacey wrote: »
    The soldier was white...it is clear from the clip, This was a terrorist and racist attack by two savages.

    Look, if the killed the soldier because he was white it is racist. If they killed him because he was a soldier, it would a terrorist attack. Please stop trying to justify your earlier silly post.
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    16caerhos16caerhos Posts: 2,533
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    A brave soldier brutally murdered on his own soil. It makes me ****ing sick!
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    Saskia44Saskia44 Posts: 2,412
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    Geiger wrote: »
    You know Islamic terrorism was trying to attack the West, including Britain, before we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq? Indeed we only invaded Afghanistan because the terrorists they were harbouring did attack. There was a plot uncovered in the UK in 2000, before both of those wars.

    So no, they're not attacking us just because we invaded Muslim lands.

    Well said - people do talk bo**ocks!
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    dawnrayddawnrayd Posts: 6,746
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    How do you propose to determine who is a "high risk individual" then?

    That's up to the security services, not me.
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    JELLIES0JELLIES0 Posts: 6,709
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    Ads wrote: »
    Slightly racist comment!

    A very helpful comment from you Ads.
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    CSJBCSJB Posts: 6,188
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    Sniffle774 wrote: »
    This was a terrible, terrible act but the ease with which some people are happy to attribute the actions of these twisted twunts to every Muslim is so very sad. The glee with which they jump on the news and start trotting out venom and bile against people who only crime is to share a religion is sad.

    When these atrocities are committed in the name of islam what do you expect.
    They aren't random nutters committing crimes who happen to be muslims as well.
    They do it for islam, because of islam and in the name of islam.
    If muslims don't want to be tarred with the same brush then let's see some large scale denouncements of these acts from the imams.
    Let's see some proactive actions from the muslim community to rid itself of this vermin, i won't hold my breath though.
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    doom&gloomdoom&gloom Posts: 9,051
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    Oh my goodness! This was mere minutes after the killing. Do you expect police on every corner of every street to spring into action within seconds!? Our police force are among the best in the world, give them some credit here.

    I think they took 20 minutes to get there, if the closest police were called to the scene they would have got there sooner but they couldn't attend as they were unarmed.

    Unarmed police put the public in danger.
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    homer2012homer2012 Posts: 5,216
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    stoatie wrote: »
    "White" Britain? I thought the EDL didn't give a shit about colour?

    Dont know the edl or there stance on everything, just no that london is fast becoming a white no go area.
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    Sniffle774Sniffle774 Posts: 20,290
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    Sarah.1987 wrote: »
    Just heard about this, what a harrowing, appalling incident. I feel awful for the soldiers family.

    There are so many conflicting stories going around, can anyone give a rough indication of what actually happened? I've literally only just heard about this.


    BBC.
    A man has been killed in a machete attack and his two assailants shot by police in Woolwich, south-east London.

    The government is reported to be treating the assault as a suspected terrorist incident and the prime minister said it was "truly shocking".

    Home Secretary Theresa May has summoned a meeting of the government's emergency response committee Cobra.

    Local MP Nick Raynsford said the dead man was a soldier at Woolwich barracks but this has not been confirmed.
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    basdfgbasdfg Posts: 6,764
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    Look, if the killed the soldier because he was white it is racist. If they killed him because he was a soldier, it would a terrorist attack. Please stop trying to justify your earlier silly post.
    The solder would have probably been killed, if they knew he was a solder, if he was mixed race, Black or Asian.
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    stirlingguy1stirlingguy1 Posts: 7,038
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    Sarah.1987 wrote: »
    Just heard about this, what a harrowing, appalling incident. I feel awful for the soldiers family.

    There are so many conflicting stories going around, can anyone give a rough indication of what actually happened? I've literally only just heard about this.

    Probably your best bet for the actualy facts:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303
    I wouldn't get your facts from DS!
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    batdude_uk1batdude_uk1 Posts: 78,722
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    Can someone explain how this is a terrorist attack, and not just another murder?

    Why does the PM have to do a Cobra meeting???

    Does he do that every time someone gets murdered?
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    vosnevosne Posts: 14,131
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    This thread is a hell of an eye-opener...
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    homer2012 wrote: »
    Dont know the edl or there stance on everything, just no that london is fast becoming a white no go area.

    It isn't, you know.
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    AdsAds Posts: 37,182
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    doom&gloom wrote: »
    I think they took 20 minutes to get there, if the closest police were called to the scene they would have got there sooner but they couldn't attend as they were unarmed.

    Unarmed police put the public in danger.

    to be fair the unarmed police would likely have been attacked by the meat cleaver armed terrorists if they had tried to intervene before the armed police got there.
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    TheBillyTheBilly Posts: 5,514
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    Can someone explain how this is a terrorist attack, and not just another murder?

    Why does the PM have to do a Cobra meeting???

    There's a clip of the killer banging on about governments.
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