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Confused by the new chronology, following 'The Name of the Doctor'?
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WHY the Doctor had to steal a Tardis and an obsolete malfunctioning one to boot is going to be the Big Reveal - especially why DW1 would trust Clara in selecting a Tardis
That's cobbled together from half a dozen different sources and made to look more substantial than it actually is.
I think the dialogue between John Hurt and Matt Smith was intentionally written to evoke the Time War, especially given that Journey to the Centre of the Tardis specifically reminded us of the thing just a few weeks earlier.
Of course, Moffatt's such a tease that deliberately putting the Time War into our minds doesn't mean he intends that to be relevant.
Done Trenzalore... Now for the fall of the 11th. :-(
*Cue Secondary Nerd Meltdown*
Strax has confirmed it?
John Hurt is an older version of Matt Smith.
The Matt Smith at the end who picked Clara up is not the 'proper' Matt Smith Doctor.
Clara was given the leaf by the 'proper' doctor just before Matt Smith turns up. She is told to use it to go home. It could be some kind of anchor to the real world or something.... anyway.... a second later after she gets the leaf- Matt Smith is calling for her to turn around and come back to him. This doesn't seem to be a very good thing, as she goes very week as John Hurt then appears, and collapses so Matt has to pick her up.
So what if she was supposed to keep going the way she was to return to the 'real world', or back to Earth, but gets called back into the dreamscape sort of landscape of wherever it is they are ( in the Doctor's head maybe? we've yet to find out where it is they are - I guess it could be a real place somewhere). So perhaps John Hurt's doctor is justifying to himself the taking of Clara ( which he is actually just doing right now as his younger self), not letting her return to the real world, to keep himself sane. He is trapped in his own mind/timestream, and has gone totally bonkers and doesn't even know it. All his previous selves are locked in there with him, and Matt Smith takes Clara for totally selfish reasons, for some company in the madness to help keep him sane amongst it all.
How does that one stand up?
I have to say, even though I've thought of it- it;s probably not even my favourite of the ones I've heard, but I think it is a possibility.
Maybe the John Hurt Doctor is Mr Clever
It misses The Valeyard so that is incorrect to begin with. Further it does not take into account that nowhere has it ever been mentioned that Tennant played three Doctors, he played the Timelord and the Human both are considered the 10th Doctor. Either way Matt Smith's Doctor is not the 13th.
Likewise the table fails to recognise that River Song gave the Doctor her regenerations so the table mentioning the regenerations is also wrong on that basis.
David Tennants Doctor (the 10th - as far as we knew at the time) regenerated in 'Journeys End'. FACT. (1st Version)
Thereafter, despite choosing to maintain the face of his 10th incarnation - he was actually the 11th incarnation of the Timelord known as the Doctor. FACT. (2nd Version.)
Coincidentally, this regeneration created the First Human / Timelord known as the Doctor. The first, and only. FACT. (3rd Version.)
David Tennant therefore played three versions of the Doctor. It happened right in front of your eyes.
If peeps want to call them all 10... Good for them! However, it doesn't change the fact, David Tennant played Doctor v10, Doctor v11 and Metacrisis Doctor v1.
Now, throw John Hurt in the mix, just before Ecclestone, and all the Doctor's who came after John Hurt get bumped up a number.
Hurt was 9.
Eccleston was 10.
Tennant was 11.
Then he was 12. (As explained above, but bumped up a number.)
Making Smith, 13.
Moffat always promised 'The Name of The Doctor' would rewrite Who's history. This is how he did it.
Well, that's just what I think anyway!
The Time War is the only period which fits with existing canon, where John Hurt's existance makes any form of sense.
As for the Doctor being 'open' about the Time War - I don't agree. He's acknowledged it, certainly. His Time locking of the Time Lords was hugely justifiable & in keeping with his Doctorly promise.
Something else went on during the TimeWar which we are due to find out.
Not necessarily the Valeyard would fit the warrior criteria as well, and ok other evidence suggests that a Time war Doctor is more likely it doesn't rule out the Valeyard completely and until the 50th episode is released we're not going to know.
I'm happy to speculate with everyone, obviously. However I'll wait until I've seen the Anniversary Story and know the full picture (or as full as we'll get). Then, if it makes no sense, I'll get confused! Moffat might wrap it all up with a bow. Right now, there's the option of him (Hurt, not Moffat...) being inserted where we never saw a beginning (before One, or One himself) or a regeneration (Nine). The whole Time War necessitating double genocide would make the Time War an easy place to stick a rejected Doctor. I don't think he can be later than Eleven, because Eleven immediately recognised him, unlike Ten during 'The Next Doctor'
Its not a fact at all, it has been established Tennant played one timelord, one Doctor. The fact he played the human version of the himself does not count. There are plenty of examples showing that it goes CE - DT -MS, and not CE - DT - DT - MS. Therefore this chronology is wrong on that basis.
NOT FACT. He made it clear he only used part of the energy, he was not affected by a full regeneration. The rest of his body did not change. There is nothing to suggest that any aspect of his body or personality changed one iota. Therefore, any assignment of a new incarnation is ihe mind of the author and not supported by any official source.
He played two versions of the Doctor. No other version has been alluded to.
The fact is that no-one knows how the redirection of regeneration energy 'counts' in the biology of Time Lords, let alone whether it 'counts' towards any limit of regeneration.
If your chronology holds true, then Matt Smith is currently the 14th Doctor, not the 13th. In 'The Angels Take Manhattan', the Doctor burn regeneration energy in order to heal River Song. If triggering this is enough to call him a new incarnation, then he's the 14th.