If you go for a 41MP camera certainly you intend to present your photos differently than watching them on a phone screen. Although a realistic presentation on the camera itself is important, too, at least for a good photographer. But then they would probably get a dedicated camera for that. So I guess the AMOLED would be fine for the photography enthusiasts, they shoot something and then sort through the photos later.
Someone buying such a phone is likely to want to change the settings to suit their preferences.
A photographer would want a good screen to help them figure out what are the right settings for their desired image.
41mp is not (normally) used in that mode, its more frequently used in 5 or 8mp mode to give lossless zoom or much improved image quality.
And I'd happily take the 808 with its AMOLED screen over my iPhone4S - you really can't see the iPhones screen that well in bright sunshine, no such issues with the 808 (due to the CBD layer).
The CBD layer is a polarising filter, no reason it can't be overlaid on top of a LCD screen other than there's often no need as LCD often can go brighter than AMOLED.
Someone buying such a phone is likely to want to change the settings to suit their preferences.
A photographer would want a good screen to help them figure out what are the right settings for their desired image.
Seriously?
As a moderately competent photographer i use the screen on my dslr for composition. i use my eyes for colour. I find it hard to imagine any photographer wanting to use a sepia mode or anything like that.
I think you are wrong basically. Even on expensive cameras the screens don't have great colour reproduction, and it changes with the lighting.
The CBD layer is a polarising filter, no reason it can't be overlaid on top of a LCD screen other than there's often no need as LCD often can go brighter than AMOLED.
Reflection cutting aside.. Surely a polarising filter would actually darken the screen?
It's inherent in the technology - the Galaxy S line still has these issues compared to the iPhone and HTC One.
When in Adobe RGB or movie mode, the S4's screen produces more accurate colours than either the iPhone 5's or the HTC One's.
So there's no inherent problems with AMOLED panels.
As a moderately competent photographer i use the screen on my dslr for composition. i use my eyes for colour. I find it hard to imagine any photographer wanting to use a sepia mode or anything like that.
I think you are wrong basically. Even on expensive cameras the screens don't have great colour reproduction, and it changes with the lighting.
Surely a moderately competent photographer would be using the optical viewfinder on an SLR not the screen for composition? Otherwise what's the point of an SLR over an SLM or SLD?
Sepia mode? We're not talking about instagram here mate! We're talking about white balance, colour profiles etc.
When in Adobe RGB or movie mode, the S4's screen produces more accurate colours than either the iPhone 5's or the HTC One's.
So there's no inherent problems with AMOLED panels.
Whilst I've seen reports that movie mode improves the screen a lot, I haven't seen anything about it being better.
GSMArena says that in movie mode the colour reproduction is described as 'very natural', with green reproduction all but perfect and red and blue very close too. If you then look at the source article and compare the graphs, you see that overall the colour levels for the S4, in movie mode in particular, are closer to 100% accurate than either the iPhone5 or HTC One.
Surely a moderately competent photographer would be using the optical viewfinder on an SLR not the screen for composition? Otherwise what's the point of an SLR over an SLM or SLD?
Sepia mode? We're not talking about instagram here mate! We're talking about white balance, colour profiles etc.
You're assuming there is a problem that you have no evidence to support.
as for white balance. why would you need a good colour screen for that. you could do it on a black and white screen. unless you are imagining doing it by eye and having a screen in exactly the same colour space as your output.
The whole notion of professional photography and a phone camera is absurd. at best it'll take decent snaps. but that is unrelated to using an amoled screen or not.
More pics have leaked this time of the front and back of the Nokia EOS.
Those newest alleged specs of the EOS:
- 41MP camera with Xenon flash
- Nokia Pro Camera
- 32GB internal
- OLED Screen 768X1280
- WP8 V 8.0.10322.71
- FM radio
- Flip to silence
- Polycarbonate body
- Takes a 35MP picture and a 5MP picture at the same time one to save one to share
- Comes in yellow
- No SD card
- About 1mm thinner than Lumia 920 with a big camera hump
- No visible OS changes
The permanent camera that was on the Nokia N9 with the tap-to-wake feature is coming soon to the Lumia 925 and then to other Lumias. No doubt this will have it too.
It's over a year since the nokia 808 was launched.
you'd have to assume that in 17 months they had done some work on it.
IIRC the 808 had a special co-processor just for the camera?
And special software etc. A lot of work was needed on the software side to bring this to WP.
Apparently this may well also combine the Lumia 920 OIS tech. From the 920 to the 925 they made an improvement to the camera by adding that sixth element to the lens. Similar refinements to the lens that was on the 808 may debut on the EOS.
Also, the inside word is that although the camera lenses are branded Carl Zeiss, they are all apparently made by Canon.
IIRC the 808 had a special co-processor just for the camera?
And special software etc. A lot of work was needed on the software side to bring this to WP.
Apparently this may well also combine the Lumia 920 OIS tech. From the 920 to the 925 they made an improvement to the camera by adding that sixth element to the lens. Similar refinements to the lens that was on the 808 may debut on the EOS.
Also, the inside word is that although the camera lenses are branded Carl Zeiss, they are all apparently made by Canon.
Yup, it has two GPUs - one for normal display work, the other for handling the 41mp data stream and performing the pureview processing.
Zeiss branded but made by canon is interesting - seems unlikely.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_eos_gets_quick_review_camera_details_still_unknown-news-6175.php
Phone is quite heavy it seems.
Someone buying such a phone is likely to want to change the settings to suit their preferences.
A photographer would want a good screen to help them figure out what are the right settings for their desired image.
The CBD layer is a polarising filter, no reason it can't be overlaid on top of a LCD screen other than there's often no need as LCD often can go brighter than AMOLED.
Seriously?
As a moderately competent photographer i use the screen on my dslr for composition. i use my eyes for colour. I find it hard to imagine any photographer wanting to use a sepia mode or anything like that.
I think you are wrong basically. Even on expensive cameras the screens don't have great colour reproduction, and it changes with the lighting.
Reflection cutting aside.. Surely a polarising filter would actually darken the screen?
It depends if the light coming off the screen is polarized.
Like all LCD screens have a polarizer, because that is how they work.
So there's no inherent problems with AMOLED panels.
Surely a moderately competent photographer would be using the optical viewfinder on an SLR not the screen for composition? Otherwise what's the point of an SLR over an SLM or SLD?
Sepia mode? We're not talking about instagram here mate! We're talking about white balance, colour profiles etc.
Whilst I've seen reports that movie mode improves the screen a lot, I haven't seen anything about it being better.
Link?
GSMArena says that in movie mode the colour reproduction is described as 'very natural', with green reproduction all but perfect and red and blue very close too. If you then look at the source article and compare the graphs, you see that overall the colour levels for the S4, in movie mode in particular, are closer to 100% accurate than either the iPhone5 or HTC One.
You're assuming there is a problem that you have no evidence to support.
as for white balance. why would you need a good colour screen for that. you could do it on a black and white screen. unless you are imagining doing it by eye and having a screen in exactly the same colour space as your output.
The whole notion of professional photography and a phone camera is absurd. at best it'll take decent snaps. but that is unrelated to using an amoled screen or not.
Those newest alleged specs of the EOS:
- 41MP camera with Xenon flash
- Nokia Pro Camera
- 32GB internal
- OLED Screen 768X1280
- WP8 V 8.0.10322.71
- FM radio
- Flip to silence
- Polycarbonate body
- Takes a 35MP picture and a 5MP picture at the same time one to save one to share
- Comes in yellow
- No SD card
- About 1mm thinner than Lumia 920 with a big camera hump
- No visible OS changes
http://www.phonearena.com/news/41-MP-Nokia-EOS-specs-and-pics-leak-again-AT-T-version-named-Elvis_id43703
Really curious about this now. Only 3 weeks away before we get to see it.
So it's the 808 sensor in a WP8 device. About time.
Wonder if the camera app will have the flexibility of the 808 application, or if it'll be more like the standard WP application?
While many may knock the 808, the camera application really is excellent. Only lacks the artificial horizon, but then there are apps for that ....
you'd have to assume that in 17 months they had done some work on it.
IIRC the 808 had a special co-processor just for the camera?
And special software etc. A lot of work was needed on the software side to bring this to WP.
Apparently this may well also combine the Lumia 920 OIS tech. From the 920 to the 925 they made an improvement to the camera by adding that sixth element to the lens. Similar refinements to the lens that was on the 808 may debut on the EOS.
Also, the inside word is that although the camera lenses are branded Carl Zeiss, they are all apparently made by Canon.
Yup, it has two GPUs - one for normal display work, the other for handling the 41mp data stream and performing the pureview processing.
Zeiss branded but made by canon is interesting - seems unlikely.
This is quite a good tool.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1
Though they don't have the 925 yet.