Most of their money for the Spice Girls prior to 1998 went to Simon Fuller and his company. She left the group not long after he got fired (not that the group earned much with "Forever" though). I can't speak for everything post 2007, but that's the widely reported numbers right now.
Absolutely incorrect.
The Spice Girls HIRED Simon Fuller after multiple managers were fighting over them.
They negotiated contracts which gave them almost unprecedented control over the Spice brand.
They each made vast amounts of money compared to almost any other modern pop group - due to the way in which the Girls and Geri in particular clawed their way to signing with Virgin from having no management, no record deal, nothing.
By the time they hired Fuller they had every major UK record label vying to sign them, which is why they were able to negotiate such 'generous' contracts.
Fuller didn't create the Spice Girls, he was employed by them and received a percentage. Not the other way around.
Absolutely incorrect.
The Spice Girls HIRED Simon Fuller after multiple managers were fighting over them.
They negotiated contracts which gave them almost unprecedented control over the Spice brand.
They each made vast amounts of money compared to almost any other modern pop group - due to the way in which the Girls and Geri in particular clawed their way to signing with Virgin from having no management, no record deal, nothing.
By the time they hired Fuller they had every major UK record label vying to sign them, which is why they were able to negotiate such 'generous' contracts.
Fuller didn't create the Spice Girls, he was employed by them and received a percentage. Not the other way around.
Wasn't he a management svengali though? I always got the impression that he took a huge portion of the earnings.
If Geri has sold almost next to nothing in the UK as a solo artist. How on earth could she have sold 8 million extra worldwide?
It's so hard to take seriously it's becoming a running joke.
I think Geri is a lovely woman, who's achieved huge successes. I just think it's embarrasing for her to be mentioned on this forum the way she has been, clearly there aren't any fans left here and I think it's doing her more harm than good.
I doubt Geri will ever have solo success, in the UK especially again. She doesn't have a label backing like Britney/Gaga/Rihanna/Madonna/Katy/Kylie etc who have huge labels and record companies behind them backing them up and funding millions of pounds worth of campaigns and big world wide arena tours..
Geri should have had a deal with Simon Fuller's 19 to give her support therefore giving her a semi guarantee for commercial success.
Now Kenny we're talking about Geri here not you. It's just very hard to imagine Geri Halliwell having a top 10 hit or a big selling album in the UK again. I hope I am proved wrong.
I did a google search and none of the multiple names you have mentioned have come up as mentioning Geri Halliwell has sold 12 million records, not a single one.
Aside from her dismal UK album sales. How on earth is it possible that she's sold a further 8 million singles/albums in markets much smaller than the UK.
You have to appreciate why the majority of us are not going to take this seriously.
PR quotes are all very good. I agree with you. It's virtually impossible for her to have sold as much as what Kenny mentioned. Her 2nd album sold just about 100k in the UK alone.
If you're not willing to learn about a topic then why make ignorant statements?
I was being sarcastic about reading the book, clearly.
Maybe it's for the best if you leave it?
There aren't any Geri fans on here bar yourself. I'm sure the Spice's have a huge fan forum somewhere online?? There you will find other Spice fan's to share your Geri enthusiasm?
Aside from her dismal UK album sales. How on earth is it possible that she's sold a further 8 million singles/albums in markets much smaller than the UK.
You have to appreciate why the majority of us are not going to take this seriously.
It's Raining Men has sold around 4 million...That's half of the remaining 8 million..
Let's wait and see what response and information I get from Simon.
Geri should have released "Passion" just after Ride It to capitalize on Ride It's top 5 position.
Love Never Loved Me would have been HUGE for her but she was stupid enough to say it didn't feel right for her to release it as a single as it was "too personal". At that point she needed everything she could to have a big smash.
Missed opportunities and wrong decisions led "Passion' to be a huge flop.
There aren't any Geri fans on here bar yourself. I'm sure the Spice's have a huge fan forum somewhere online?? There you will find other Spice fan's to share your Geri enthusiasm?
If you don't like the thread, you're welcome to leave.
It's Raining Men has sold around 4 million...That's half of the remaining 8 million..
Let's wait and see what response and information I get from Simon.
True the track was HUGE. As Geri mentioned in "For The Record' it would have been better to release "Feels Like Sex' as the lead single to build up on IRM.
Geri should have released "Passion" just after Ride It to capitalize on Ride It's top 5 position.
Love Never Loved Me would have been HUGE for her but she was stupid enough to say it didn't feel right for her to release it as a single as it was "too personal". At that point she needed everything she could to have a big smash.
Missed opportunities and wrong decisions led "Passion' to be a huge flop.
The Record Label were also to blame. They made her scrap her original "Disco Sister" album and change direction. Fantastic dance pop songs like Set me Off were replaced by "Surrender Your Groove" and other dirge.
Rite it, Love Never Loved Me, Set Me Off, - Disco Sister could have been a real hit.
Believe it or not I am a huge fan. It's just somethings you come out with are rather silly and unbelievable especially as we're referring to Geri now in this current climate of music.
The Record Label were also to blame. They made her scrap her original "Disco Sister" album and change direction. Fantastic dance pop songs like Set me Off were replaced by "Surrender Your Groove" and other dirge.
Rite it, Love Never Loved Me, Set Me Off, - Disco Sister could have been a real hit.
If you don't like the thread, you're welcome to leave.
I'm just doing my job.
Is it really your job to post on a forum where virtually no one is taking Geri seriously. I feel bad for her. It's doing her more harm than good. My opinion anyway, and then again I cant see 20 odd Geri fans jumping to her defense.
4 million as in 4 million units sold or 4 million in "geri sales" (grossly inflated pr nonsense)?
Geri appeared on Letterman in the US in 2003 and (I don't know if you're familiar with the show?) but Letterman's musical director Paul Shaffer, who happened to have written It's Raining Men, congratulated Geri on selling over 3 million copies of her version and told her that "his accountant said to thank her"
Geri appeared on Letterman in the US in 2003 and (I don't know if you're familiar with the show?) but Letterman's musical director Paul Shaffer, who happened to have written It's Raining Men, congratulated Geri on selling over 3 million copies of her version and told her that "his accountant said to thank her"
so just a million shy of the 4 million then.:rolleyes:
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Absolutely incorrect.
The Spice Girls HIRED Simon Fuller after multiple managers were fighting over them.
They negotiated contracts which gave them almost unprecedented control over the Spice brand.
They each made vast amounts of money compared to almost any other modern pop group - due to the way in which the Girls and Geri in particular clawed their way to signing with Virgin from having no management, no record deal, nothing.
By the time they hired Fuller they had every major UK record label vying to sign them, which is why they were able to negotiate such 'generous' contracts.
Fuller didn't create the Spice Girls, he was employed by them and received a percentage. Not the other way around.
Ugh..
Look it up. :yawn:
Read Rolling Stone Journalist David Sinclair's book "Wannabe: How The Spice Girls Reinvented Pop Fame"
I don't have the energy to explain the complicated story of how the Spice Girls came about and their control of their own group.
It's so hard to take seriously it's becoming a running joke.
I think Geri is a lovely woman, who's achieved huge successes. I just think it's embarrasing for her to be mentioned on this forum the way she has been, clearly there aren't any fans left here and I think it's doing her more harm than good.
I doubt Geri will ever have solo success, in the UK especially again. She doesn't have a label backing like Britney/Gaga/Rihanna/Madonna/Katy/Kylie etc who have huge labels and record companies behind them backing them up and funding millions of pounds worth of campaigns and big world wide arena tours..
Geri should have had a deal with Simon Fuller's 19 to give her support therefore giving her a semi guarantee for commercial success.
Now Kenny we're talking about Geri here not you. It's just very hard to imagine Geri Halliwell having a top 10 hit or a big selling album in the UK again. I hope I am proved wrong.
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Aside from her dismal UK album sales. How on earth is it possible that she's sold a further 8 million singles/albums in markets much smaller than the UK.
You have to appreciate why the majority of us are not going to take this seriously.
If you're not willing to learn about a topic then why make ignorant statements?
I was being sarcastic about reading the book, clearly.
PR quotes are all very good. I agree with you. It's virtually impossible for her to have sold as much as what Kenny mentioned. Her 2nd album sold just about 100k in the UK alone.
Maybe it's for the best if you leave it?
There aren't any Geri fans on here bar yourself. I'm sure the Spice's have a huge fan forum somewhere online?? There you will find other Spice fan's to share your Geri enthusiasm?
It's Raining Men has sold around 4 million...That's half of the remaining 8 million..
Let's wait and see what response and information I get from Simon.
Love Never Loved Me would have been HUGE for her but she was stupid enough to say it didn't feel right for her to release it as a single as it was "too personal". At that point she needed everything she could to have a big smash.
Missed opportunities and wrong decisions led "Passion' to be a huge flop.
If you don't like the thread, you're welcome to leave.
I'm just doing my job.
True the track was HUGE. As Geri mentioned in "For The Record' it would have been better to release "Feels Like Sex' as the lead single to build up on IRM.
Again a stupid decision on EMI's part...
The Record Label were also to blame. They made her scrap her original "Disco Sister" album and change direction. Fantastic dance pop songs like Set me Off were replaced by "Surrender Your Groove" and other dirge.
Rite it, Love Never Loved Me, Set Me Off, - Disco Sister could have been a real hit.
I FULLY agree!!
Is it really your job to post on a forum where virtually no one is taking Geri seriously. I feel bad for her. It's doing her more harm than good. My opinion anyway, and then again I cant see 20 odd Geri fans jumping to her defense.
Aside from your good self ofcourse.
You and all of Geri's many fans can discuss everything Geri there until she officially announces her new album/single in the UK.
4 million as in 4 million units sold or 4 million in "geri sales" (grossly inflated pr nonsense)?
I'm not doing a Kenny here (:D), but apparently IRM was in the top 5 biggest selling singles of 2001. (Worldwide)
I do see your point though
how much did it really sell though?:D it only sold 421k in the uk that year.:o
Geri appeared on Letterman in the US in 2003 and (I don't know if you're familiar with the show?) but Letterman's musical director Paul Shaffer, who happened to have written It's Raining Men, congratulated Geri on selling over 3 million copies of her version and told her that "his accountant said to thank her"
so just a million shy of the 4 million then.:rolleyes:
In the UK yes. It was in the top 5 selling singles world wide for 2001 though.