Ok it's a major exaggeration to think they'd all come but with our economy looking a lot healthier than a far few of our european neighbours the fact that as many as fancy taking a punt can come if they like is no basis for an immigration policy.
What a load of rubbish Rusty... it's just an immigration scare story as we all know.
You must be getting forgetful in your old age. You forgot to mention the two things you dislike about the Tories that you include in every thread you go on !:D
I know it's really terrible of me to have an opinion and to express that opinion, especially when it goes against the Tories and their supporters,
They are, (mostly) by nature more inclined towards wanting those who oppose them to either agree with them or shut up,
and just for you, I despise the Tories, and always will, I 100% agree with Nye Bevan, :D
I know it's really terrible of me to have an opinion and to express that opinion, especially when it goes against the Tories and their supporters,
They are, (mostly) by nature more inclined towards wanting those who oppose them to either agree with them or shut up,
Oh dear, oh dear.
There's nothing quite as sad as when someone voicing their opinion starts proclaiming they are being persecuted when someone has the audacity to disagree with them. It smacks of hypocrisy when you insist on having your say but try to cut off any further debate by implying any disagreement is "them" trying to shut you up.
There's nothing quite as sad as when someone voicing their opinion starts proclaiming they are being persecuted when someone has the audacity to disagree with them. It smacks of hypocrisy when you insist on having your say but try to cut off any further debate by implying any disagreement is "them" trying to shut you up.
I totally agree... it's like people claiming they've been accused of racism in immigration discussions when they haven't at all... just so they can proclaim they have been persecuted... I'm glad you've highlighted the issue.
I didn't say should - I said could be here if they chose.
But you know that don't you.
But 500 million could be here on a whim!!!! They're just waiting on the sniff of economic recovery!!!! At least you claim... they're just not are they.
But 500 million could be here on a whim!!!! They're just waiting on the sniff of economic recovery!!!! At least you claim... they're just not are they.
Nowhere near the number you are claiming should be here... so yes you have imagined one or two extra.
One of Derby's inner city schools - St James - has almost 90% of its pupils from ethnic backgrounds, you can see the playground from the top floor of the bus I go to work on.
Every third or fourth customer I speak to at work doesn't have English as their first language.
Immigration appears to have caused rapid population growth in some areas of the UK over the last ten years alone.
One of Derby's inner city schools - St James - has almost 90% of its pupils from ethnic backgrounds, you can see the playground from the top floor of the bus I go to work on.
Every third or fourth customer I speak to at work doesn't have English as their first language.
Immigration appears to have caused rapid population growth in some areas of the UK over the last ten years alone.
Ah... the top of the bus ethnicity test... always sound and scientific
Do you tell your customers you object to their first language not being English or would that make bad business sense... objecting to all these customers... ?
In fact it seems to me you are doing well out of immigration because so many of them are choosing you to do business with... It actually sounds like you'd like to get rid of 75% of your customers which sounds crazy to me... but it's your money I guess (via them ofc).
Not biting. You'll need to find someone else to bait.
But I'm not baiting you... I am responding to the claims you have made. That couldn't be any more clear. You have claimed 500 million people could come here on a whim. That's just nonsense isn't it?
IS this the basis of immigration stories... gross exaggeration and scare stories? And then claim you are being baited if challenged on it. I can see why anti-immigration groups and parties like BNP, EDL and UKIP fail so badly.
"But perhaps the most startling finding came when we tested anecdotal reports that many BNP voters were old Labour sympathisers who felt that the party no longer speaks up for them. It turns out to be true. As many as 59 per cent of BNP voters think that Labour "used to care about the concerns of people like me but doesn’t nowadays".
I don't think 'ethnic minority' is a very good term to use in a poll. It's up there with 'asylum seeker' or 'benefit claimant' or 'yooman rights' as one of those term's that is so loaded with negative connotation that pollsters should probably avoid it.
'Non-white' would perhaps be a better descriptive, or perhaps delve deeper and ask about specific ethnic backgrounds rather than just use the blanket term 'ethnic minority', which many people seem to assume just means 'Muslim.'
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What a load of rubbish Rusty... it's just an immigration scare story as we all know.
Of course. But then you have idiots who claim anyone who is anti-immigration, must be racist.
Also whatever you want to feel about this comment is up to you, but in this day and age...it appears that only white people can be racist anyway.
I must have imagined all those Poles.
Thanks for putting me straight:rolleyes:
Ah yes all 500 million of them looking for banking jobs.
I know it's really terrible of me to have an opinion and to express that opinion, especially when it goes against the Tories and their supporters,
They are, (mostly) by nature more inclined towards wanting those who oppose them to either agree with them or shut up,
and just for you, I despise the Tories, and always will, I 100% agree with Nye Bevan,
Nowhere near the number you are claiming should be here... so yes you have imagined one or two extra.
I didn't say should - I said could be here if they chose.
But you know that don't you.
Oh dear, oh dear.
There's nothing quite as sad as when someone voicing their opinion starts proclaiming they are being persecuted when someone has the audacity to disagree with them. It smacks of hypocrisy when you insist on having your say but try to cut off any further debate by implying any disagreement is "them" trying to shut you up.
No, not that, this old nugget !
Labour have many faults,
The Tories have only 2,
Everything they say,
and evrything they do.
I totally agree... it's like people claiming they've been accused of racism in immigration discussions when they haven't at all... just so they can proclaim they have been persecuted... I'm glad you've highlighted the issue.
But 500 million could be here on a whim!!!! They're just waiting on the sniff of economic recovery!!!! At least you claim... they're just not are they.
are you bored or something?
No more than you... and I'm not coming up with nonsense theories about 500 million people immigrating here...
...on a whim.
One of Derby's inner city schools - St James - has almost 90% of its pupils from ethnic backgrounds, you can see the playground from the top floor of the bus I go to work on.
Every third or fourth customer I speak to at work doesn't have English as their first language.
Immigration appears to have caused rapid population growth in some areas of the UK over the last ten years alone.
:yawn:
Not biting. You'll need to find someone else to bait.
Ah... the top of the bus ethnicity test... always sound and scientific
Do you tell your customers you object to their first language not being English or would that make bad business sense... objecting to all these customers... ?
In fact it seems to me you are doing well out of immigration because so many of them are choosing you to do business with... It actually sounds like you'd like to get rid of 75% of your customers which sounds crazy to me... but it's your money I guess (via them ofc).
But I'm not baiting you... I am responding to the claims you have made. That couldn't be any more clear. You have claimed 500 million people could come here on a whim. That's just nonsense isn't it?
IS this the basis of immigration stories... gross exaggeration and scare stories? And then claim you are being baited if challenged on it. I can see why anti-immigration groups and parties like BNP, EDL and UKIP fail so badly.
Who voted BNP and why (2009)?
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/who+voted+bnp+and+why/3200557.html
"But perhaps the most startling finding came when we tested anecdotal reports that many BNP voters were old Labour sympathisers who felt that the party no longer speaks up for them. It turns out to be true. As many as 59 per cent of BNP voters think that Labour "used to care about the concerns of people like me but doesn’t nowadays".
There is also a connection between Muslims and terrorism, even if its only a minority who are both. What point are you trying to make?
Not so black and brown racists may be very pro immigration.
They do... but anchored in their battle for center ground they have to control themselves.
'Non-white' would perhaps be a better descriptive, or perhaps delve deeper and ask about specific ethnic backgrounds rather than just use the blanket term 'ethnic minority', which many people seem to assume just means 'Muslim.'