If an elderly BBC watching,voting audience, which is what I suspect Strictly has, actually gets up in the mornings, I think Susanna should do well. Chris wins from the same base. Natalie is short on charisma compared to a Kara or Alesha, and I have a doubt how much the fanbase crosses channels from ITV to BBC. Natalie also has no journey story at all, and she risks being over hyped by the judges. She has to overcome those hoops to get into the running. Someone also has to produce a dance thats actually worth a 39 or 40 , on a more serious scale than the judges have used for the last couple of series, if they are going to win on wow factor.
Even without that though there's a real question what happens in a two females versus one male final. Its quite possible to have both girls competing for the same voters and the male sneaking through. It been done, but it may not be doable these days. Series two and series 7 had two females in the final but there 7 only had two left for the final voting stage, and series 2 had a terribly weak male compared to the two females.
There does seem to be some strange voting going on...
but the BBC bias is an odd one, because BBC2 stalwart Debra Meedham went out last week, although I do wonder if that might have been because she doesn't exactly play a very sympathetic character in the Dragons den....
I cant really explain why Susanna and Dave seem to be doing so well, when they aren't for me the best dancers....I thought Dave's dance tonight was a joke, and Susanna looked so ungainly...with her legs all over the place.
both last week and this week, the people in the bottom 2, have nothing really to do with how well they danced,,,it all seems to be more about their popularity and who is voting.....which is a shame...As it makes it almost farcical....
Can't quite believe what i'm reading Abbey & Rachel in the dance off :O has the world gone mad?
rather incredulous that the judges gave them such high praise too, could it be a public revolt? Rachel is rather awkward and didn't think much to her dance ,disappointed if im honest but Abbies barring a few lets downs was rather good.....
I am not shocked by tonights result far from it.
Comedy voting, sympathy voting, leaderboard reversal voting, hunk voting, personality voting.
Seen it all before. In years gone by I would have totally lost my rag with it. Now I just laugh at the sheer daftness of it all. Unfair result? Yep. Am I unduly upset? Not really, I half expected this sort of outcome really. The holy grail is when people vote on the dancing.
Heaven forbid that ever happens. I might have to take it seriously then.
I wish I could be as detached from all the emotions like you! I've watched many Strictly series, and whilst year on year eliminations have followed this pattern, year on year I still have a few faves and get really upset when any of them leave earlier than they should!
Deary deary me the same old argument EVERY single series - people saying it is a "dance" competition and the comedy act should go early on!!!!!
It is ACTUALLY light entertainment and without the comedic / bit hopeless element and just GOOD dancers the ratings would fall dramatically - why we used to have a purely DANCE show in the original Come Dancing yet people turned off and it was scrapped. It is high time people stopped getting aerated over this and accept it is family entertainment
I rang the BBC and they stated Strictly is an entertainment show that is why they ask for people to vote for their favourite dancer, if it was a dance competition then there would be no public vote!
I'm happy with this result, even though I liked Rachel, she wasn't versatile enough to stay in much longer, and I'm not keen on Abbey either.
I'm SO delighted Sophie wasn't in the bottom two. I thought Fiona would be a certainty, but am so glad she wasn't in it as I do like her and, stylistically, her dance was magnificent.
So we know that Abbey had to have come last. Technically, Rachel may have been last, but it's unlikely since she was not in the bottom two of the public vote last week.
We can't tell if Patrick had a bottom two bounce, because he was so high up the leaderboard - we just know he outpolled Abbey, which he may have done last week as well.
Fiona and Sophie look to have a reasonably substantial public vote.
Mark and Dave look strong at this point in the voting.
Next week is last elimination before Blackpool and he's already said his goal is to make it there. If they really play that up on ITT and in the VTs throughout next week, then as with Russell Grant and Richard Arnold getting to Blackpool/Wembley I think they may leave it at that. If so, expect it to be at the expense of Fiona or Mark.
It'll never change until they invite people to vote for the best dancer and not 'vote for your favourite'
That wouldn't make one jot of difference because people have very different views on the 'dancing', & their own personal views about the celeb ALWAYS play a part. Are you really saying that you would pay money to vote for someone you didn't particularly like because they danced better than someone you did like according to the judges.
It'll never change until they invite people to vote for the best dancer and not 'vote for your favourite'
Which is exactly why the clumsy Hairy Biker is still there. He's not funny, he can't dance, but people seem to like him. It is how it is. As soon as you allow stupid people (i.e. the Great British Public) to take part in deciding who wins (or, more precisely, who won't win), there will be nonsense like this.
Next week is last elimination before Blackpool and he's already said his goal is to make it there. If they really play that up on ITT and in the VTs throughout next week, then as with Russell Grant and Richard Arnold getting to Wembley I think they may leave it at that. If so, expect it to be at the expense of Fiona or Mark.
I expect it to be at the expense of Patrick to be honest. Mark and Fiona's votes seem robust.
Deary deary me the same old argument EVERY single series - people saying it is a "dance" competition and the comedy act should go early on!!!!!
It is ACTUALLY light entertainment and without the comedic / bit hopeless element and just GOOD dancers the ratings would fall dramatically - why we used to have a purely DANCE show in the original Come Dancing yet people turned off and it was scrapped. It is high time people stopped getting aerated over this and accept it is family entertainment
I am sure that if one of the other channels thought that they could get good audience figures with a traditional dance programme on the lines of Come Dancing then they would have put one on.
All those Abbey fans should relax a little bit. I think it will help her in the long run and will show viewers not to forget about voting for her in future weeks. Every year we have the same 'outrage' with someone being in the bottom two, it isn't anything new...
So we know that Abbey had to have come last. Technically, Rachel may have been last, but it's unlikely since she was not in the bottom two of the public vote last week.
We can't tell if Patrick had a bottom two bounce, because he was so high up the leaderboard - we just know he outpolled Abbey, which he may have done last week as well.
Fiona and Sophie look to have a reasonably substantial public vote.
Mark and Dave look strong at this point in the voting.
Not a great fan of Abbey, but no way should she be in the bottom two. Rachel shouldn't have been in the bottom two either and not gone. Unfortunately it is not a dance competition as we are constantly reminded to vote for our favourite.
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There does seem to be some strange voting going on...
but the BBC bias is an odd one, because BBC2 stalwart Debra Meedham went out last week, although I do wonder if that might have been because she doesn't exactly play a very sympathetic character in the Dragons den....
I cant really explain why Susanna and Dave seem to be doing so well, when they aren't for me the best dancers....I thought Dave's dance tonight was a joke, and Susanna looked so ungainly...with her legs all over the place.
both last week and this week, the people in the bottom 2, have nothing really to do with how well they danced,,,it all seems to be more about their popularity and who is voting.....which is a shame...As it makes it almost farcical....
rather incredulous that the judges gave them such high praise too, could it be a public revolt? Rachel is rather awkward and didn't think much to her dance ,disappointed if im honest but Abbies barring a few lets downs was rather good.....
I know its entertainment and all that but REALLY?
going to bed shocked !
thanks for the result :S
I wish I could be as detached from all the emotions like you! I've watched many Strictly series, and whilst year on year eliminations have followed this pattern, year on year I still have a few faves and get really upset when any of them leave earlier than they should!
I never learn!
Still :mad: and Sad
Both of them didnt deserve to be there imo but there you go......
Surely this diminishes Abbey chances to get to the finale
I rang the BBC and they stated Strictly is an entertainment show that is why they ask for people to vote for their favourite dancer, if it was a dance competition then there would be no public vote!
p.s. Thank you for the spoiler.
I'm SO delighted Sophie wasn't in the bottom two. I thought Fiona would be a certainty, but am so glad she wasn't in it as I do like her and, stylistically, her dance was magnificent.
When will Dave go!?
Natalie - 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th
Abbey - 10th 11th
Patrick - 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th
Susanna - 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th
Ashley - 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th
Ben - 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th
Rachel - 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th
Fiona - 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th
Sophie - 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th
Mark - 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
Dave - 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
So we know that Abbey had to have come last. Technically, Rachel may have been last, but it's unlikely since she was not in the bottom two of the public vote last week.
We can't tell if Patrick had a bottom two bounce, because he was so high up the leaderboard - we just know he outpolled Abbey, which he may have done last week as well.
Fiona and Sophie look to have a reasonably substantial public vote.
Mark and Dave look strong at this point in the voting.
Next week is last elimination before Blackpool and he's already said his goal is to make it there. If they really play that up on ITT and in the VTs throughout next week, then as with Russell Grant and Richard Arnold getting to Blackpool/Wembley I think they may leave it at that. If so, expect it to be at the expense of Fiona or Mark.
That wouldn't make one jot of difference because people have very different views on the 'dancing', & their own personal views about the celeb ALWAYS play a part. Are you really saying that you would pay money to vote for someone you didn't particularly like because they danced better than someone you did like according to the judges.
Which is exactly why the clumsy Hairy Biker is still there. He's not funny, he can't dance, but people seem to like him. It is how it is. As soon as you allow stupid people (i.e. the Great British Public) to take part in deciding who wins (or, more precisely, who won't win), there will be nonsense like this.
I expect it to be at the expense of Patrick to be honest. Mark and Fiona's votes seem robust.
Just my opinion.
I am sure that if one of the other channels thought that they could get good audience figures with a traditional dance programme on the lines of Come Dancing then they would have put one on.
It's a spoiler thread, there's no need for them, it's not like we're going to not talk about who's out afterwards.
If I were to guess, I would go for:
1 Susanna & Kevin (10 + 11 = 21)
2 Sophie & Brendan (6 + 10 = 16)
3 Dave & Karen (4 + 9 = 13)
4 Ben & Kristina (8 + 8 = 16)
5 Natalie & Artem (11 + 7 = 18)
6 Mark & Iveta (5 + 6 = 11)
7 Fiona & Anton (6 + 5 = 11)
8 Ashley & Ola (9 + 4 = 13)
9 Patrick & Anya (10 + 3 = 13)
10 Rachel & Pasha (7 + 2 = 9)
11 Abbey & Aljaz (10 + 1 = 11)
Probably completely wrong though
Anton also has his own cult following!
Yep