Apparently Epic are on the brink financially. Perhaps labels are encouraging their artists to tour more, since this brings in the most revenue, as well as budgeting a campaign very carefully (Gaga's label might be regretting spending so much on her for this campaign). A lot of labels also have a couple of high profile/decent selling artists that probably make enough for them to keep going - no doubt 1D are making fortunes for Syco.
A source said: "It would be exciting to have another Little Mix engagement but sadly it was just a bit of costume jewellery that only fit that finger."
I've seen some unattributed quotes from label reps that they're hopeful the industry will at least stay flat this year based on expanded streaming revenue. We'll see how that panned out in a couple of months, I guess.
Personally I got a Google Play sub and it's wonderful but I pretty much plan to never buy an album again. (I did import Salute, but that's because I'm here in this thread, I didn't want to wait several months, and I adhere to a very strict no-stealing policy few of my peers seem to share.)
Increased live shows and merch sales aside, it seems to me that the way forward for the labels consists of growing all the existing streaming services and monetizing Youtube at a Spotify level, but it's a huge dice roll. At the current sub to ad-supported uptake and pay rates, my back of the envelope math suggests they'll need 100m-150m subs across all of the services to replace current global sales.
Apparently Epic are on the brink financially. Perhaps labels are encouraging their artists to tour more, since this brings in the most revenue, as well as budgeting a campaign very carefully (Gaga's label might be regretting spending so much on her for this campaign). A lot of labels also have a couple of high profile/decent selling artists that probably make enough for them to keep going - no doubt 1D are making fortunes for Syco.
Yes I heard about Epic in America. But when I look t their artist rooster I see artists that only had 1 or 2 hits in America. I heard that LA Reid is jumping ship and they are dropping some artists.
1D are making insane money for Syco. :eek:
Yes I heard about Epic in America. But when I look t their artist rooster I see artists that only had 1 or 2 hits in America. I heard that LA Reid is jumping ship and they are dropping some artists.
1D are making insane money for Syco. :eek:
Looking at the list of names Epic have on their roster, it's no surprise they're struggling. Of all their artists, I can only recall Tamar Braxton having a successful single/album this year.
With regards to Salute, I'd like LM to sell about 20k a week in the run up to Christmas.
Looking at the list of names Epic have on their roster, it's no surprise they're struggling. Of all their artists, I can only recall Tamar Braxton having a successful single/album this year.
This is why Fifth Harmony are being pushed so frantically in the US, they are potentially the answer to all of Epic's prayers (and the X Factor's credibility) so they are just going to throw everything they can at trying to make them happen. Cher Lloyd was looking promising for them at some point, but that has tailed off quite badly by the looks of things, in fact they look to have lost interest. They seem to be after a big 1D-type brand to really bring the money in.
I don't know the ins and outs but I assume that Syco own the Little Mix 'brand' so are benefitting from the nail polish, make up and clothing deals they currently have amongst other things. All things in LM's favour.
Looking at the list of names Epic have on their roster, it's no surprise they're struggling. Of all their artists, I can only recall Tamar Braxton having a successful single/album this year.
With regards to Salute, I'd like LM to sell about 20k a week in the run up to Christmas.
There could be a number of reasons for the poor sales generally:
1. Nobody has any money to buy what really is a luxury.
2. The multiplicity of places that you can get hold of music - both legally & illegally is eventually going to take its toll on total sales..
3. The poor quality and lack of originality in music at the moment is perhaps beginning to show. I must admit I am struggling to locate a decent record in my favourite genre of music. The Top 40 in the UK is full of samey unoriginal rubbish that pales against music around 10-15 years ago.
There could be a number of reasons for the poor sales generally:
1. Nobody has any money to buy what really is a luxury.
2. The multiplicity of places that you can get hold of music - both legally & illegally is eventually going to take its toll on total sales..
3. The poor quality and lack of originality in music at the moment is perhaps beginning to show. I must admit I am struggling to locate a decent record in my favourite genre of music. The Top 40 in the UK is full of samey unoriginal rubbish that pales against music around 10-15 years ago.
Or a combination of all 3 of course ...
Sales are worse than ever in the US too, even though the economy's rebounded a bit here. So the prevalence of streaming seems a more likely culprit.
I maintain that the top 40 has always been 80% rubbish, largely determined by marketing budgets, and the wheat gets separated from the chaff over time. Actually revisiting the top 40 charts from my teen years was surprising and instructive.
There could be a number of reasons for the poor sales generally:
1. Nobody has any money to buy what really is a luxury.
2. The multiplicity of places that you can get hold of music - both legally & illegally is eventually going to take its toll on total sales..
3. The poor quality and lack of originality in music at the moment is perhaps beginning to show. I must admit I am struggling to locate a decent record in my favourite genre of music. The Top 40 in the UK is full of samey unoriginal rubbish that pales against music around 10-15 years ago.
Or a combination of all 3 of course ...
It's all down to the internet. People generally don't buy records now until they are absolutely sure, they can 'try before they buy' on streaming services or by illegally downloading. At one point people would try out music by actually buying the record from the record shop, that barely happens anymore which wipes out a large number of sales.
Don't forget this is a country that has seen acts such as Bob The Builder & The Teletubbies sell around a million copies of singles in the past. Neither of which were charity efforts. Crap has always sold.
Music evolves. Your a dance music fan and the 90's/early 00's was a golden era for that genre, but that is only an opinion. I agree with you that modern dance music isn't as good, but its hardly uncommon to hear people complaining about how much better things were when they were younger...
It's all down to the internet. People generally don't buy records now until they are absolutely sure, they can 'try before they buy' on streaming services or by illegally downloading. At one point people would try out music by actually buying the record from the record shop, that barely happens anymore which wipes out a large number of sales.
Don't forget this is a country that has seen acts such as Bob The Builder & The Teletubbies sell around a million copies of singles in the past. Neither of which were charity efforts. Crap has always sold.
Music evolves. Your a dance music fan and the 90's/early 00's was a golden era for that genre, but that is only an opinion. I agree with you that modern dance music isn't as good, but its hardly uncommon to hear people complaining about how much better things were when they were younger...
Erm excuse me but Bob the a builder is NOT crap - how dare you!:p I will give you the Teletubbies.
To any UK-based fans who don't know, over the Xmas period MTV Christmas will be showing a five-hour 'Happy Little Mixmas' special with a countdown of their favourite festive songs and them answering questions from fans.
To any UK-based fans who don't know, over the Xmas period MTV Christmas will be showing a five-hour 'Happy Little Mixmas' special with a countdown of their favourite festive songs and them answering questions from fans.
Haha, from the title I thought it was going to be one of those really stereotypical, cheesy Christmas countdowns but I saw the last 15 minutes and it was quite entertaining. The girls seemed to answer the fans' questions really honestly, so I'm sure we'll all be able to learn a lot of new things from/about them through it. I hope someone manages to create a highlights package from it for all you US-based fans. Actually scratch that, I hope it airs in the States for you!
I did have to laugh though when they announced that their #1 Christmas song was Move! :eek:
The first airing was tonight but it's going to be repeated a lot of times up until Christmas. I saw it through Sky (satellite TV) on MTV Christmas. I'm not sure what the equivalent would be in the US, sorry.
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Apparently Epic are on the brink financially. Perhaps labels are encouraging their artists to tour more, since this brings in the most revenue, as well as budgeting a campaign very carefully (Gaga's label might be regretting spending so much on her for this campaign). A lot of labels also have a couple of high profile/decent selling artists that probably make enough for them to keep going - no doubt 1D are making fortunes for Syco.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2513176/Little-Mixs-Jade-Thirlwall-denies-shes-engaged-Diversity-star-boyfriend-Sam-Craske-sporting-HUGE-sparkling-band-ring-finger.html
A source said: "It would be exciting to have another Little Mix engagement but sadly it was just a bit of costume jewellery that only fit that finger."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/little-mix-jade-isnt-engaged-2849309
Behind the scenes, Leigh-Anne found out and beat the crap outta Sam.
I had to laugh. Top funding will always go to 1d. Just like it went to Leona for awhile.
Edit:
I also wish he girls would appear on semi finale night and sing studio version of "little me" that would help a lot...
Someone over at buzzjack had earlier prediction this would sell 100k by January 1st. Looks like they are right. So far it's headed that way.
Well I'm hoping at least 200k by January when people are bing their Christmas presents and January sale
Edit: my number predictions have been ok so far
Personally I got a Google Play sub and it's wonderful but I pretty much plan to never buy an album again. (I did import Salute, but that's because I'm here in this thread, I didn't want to wait several months, and I adhere to a very strict no-stealing policy few of my peers seem to share.)
Increased live shows and merch sales aside, it seems to me that the way forward for the labels consists of growing all the existing streaming services and monetizing Youtube at a Spotify level, but it's a huge dice roll. At the current sub to ad-supported uptake and pay rates, my back of the envelope math suggests they'll need 100m-150m subs across all of the services to replace current global sales.
Yes I heard about Epic in America. But when I look t their artist rooster I see artists that only had 1 or 2 hits in America. I heard that LA Reid is jumping ship and they are dropping some artists.
1D are making insane money for Syco. :eek:
The album would have to rack up 30k every week between now and the end of the year. That's a tall order.
Looking at the list of names Epic have on their roster, it's no surprise they're struggling. Of all their artists, I can only recall Tamar Braxton having a successful single/album this year.
With regards to Salute, I'd like LM to sell about 20k a week in the run up to Christmas.
I think it could. This week is when Christmas shopping will begin. (Well for me
This is why Fifth Harmony are being pushed so frantically in the US, they are potentially the answer to all of Epic's prayers (and the X Factor's credibility) so they are just going to throw everything they can at trying to make them happen. Cher Lloyd was looking promising for them at some point, but that has tailed off quite badly by the looks of things, in fact they look to have lost interest. They seem to be after a big 1D-type brand to really bring the money in.
I don't know the ins and outs but I assume that Syco own the Little Mix 'brand' so are benefitting from the nail polish, make up and clothing deals they currently have amongst other things. All things in LM's favour.
There could be a number of reasons for the poor sales generally:
1. Nobody has any money to buy what really is a luxury.
2. The multiplicity of places that you can get hold of music - both legally & illegally is eventually going to take its toll on total sales..
3. The poor quality and lack of originality in music at the moment is perhaps beginning to show. I must admit I am struggling to locate a decent record in my favourite genre of music. The Top 40 in the UK is full of samey unoriginal rubbish that pales against music around 10-15 years ago.
Or a combination of all 3 of course ...
Sales are worse than ever in the US too, even though the economy's rebounded a bit here. So the prevalence of streaming seems a more likely culprit.
I maintain that the top 40 has always been 80% rubbish, largely determined by marketing budgets, and the wheat gets separated from the chaff over time. Actually revisiting the top 40 charts from my teen years was surprising and instructive.
It's all down to the internet. People generally don't buy records now until they are absolutely sure, they can 'try before they buy' on streaming services or by illegally downloading. At one point people would try out music by actually buying the record from the record shop, that barely happens anymore which wipes out a large number of sales.
Don't forget this is a country that has seen acts such as Bob The Builder & The Teletubbies sell around a million copies of singles in the past. Neither of which were charity efforts. Crap has always sold.
Music evolves. Your a dance music fan and the 90's/early 00's was a golden era for that genre, but that is only an opinion. I agree with you that modern dance music isn't as good, but its hardly uncommon to hear people complaining about how much better things were when they were younger...
Erm excuse me but Bob the a builder is NOT crap - how dare you!:p I will give you the Teletubbies.
Went to my local Tesco yesterday there were like 5 left, bought 2..
Commited!
Have yourself
A Merry Little Mixmaaaaaaas
/Bing Crosby voice
Haha, from the title I thought it was going to be one of those really stereotypical, cheesy Christmas countdowns but I saw the last 15 minutes and it was quite entertaining. The girls seemed to answer the fans' questions really honestly, so I'm sure we'll all be able to learn a lot of new things from/about them through it. I hope someone manages to create a highlights package from it for all you US-based fans. Actually scratch that, I hope it airs in the States for you!
I did have to laugh though when they announced that their #1 Christmas song was Move! :eek:
If you've got Sky or Virgin you could just record it and fast-forward to the speaking bits!