I've not been following Sky during this, they sound as though they're being so insensitive.
Always the case in a tragedy. I've never watched it again since Kay Burley being oh so clever during the hunt from April Jones. I loathe that woman with a passion. Kay Burley that is, in case it's not obvious.
Always the case in a tragedy. I've never watched it again since Kay Burley being oh so clever during the hunt from April Jones. I loathe that woman with a passion. Kay Burley that is, in case it's not obvious.
I don't think I've ever watched her to be honest (I don't have Sky and tend to go to the BBC site for news) but read enough about her on DS - if I have seen her then I can't remember doing so.. To me there's a line when tragedies like this happen. I know it's their job and all that but just basic common decency should be there.
"The BBC's Sophie Long says ambulances have been seen leaving the cordoned off area around the pub and are believed to have contained the bodies of victims."
Very poignant to see emergency teams form guard of honour as remaining victim's body removed from #Clutha pub. #respect"
As sad as the sight must be I hope it helps bring some comfort to their loved ones / relatives that their bodies have been found.
I've just been watching the bodies being brought out on Sky and I think it was handled respectfully and with dignity when the bodies were brought out. I wasn't expecting the emergency services to form a guard of honour and it was a nice touch and may bring some crumb of comfort to the bereaved to see their loved one's bodies being treated so respectfully.
This is the second helicopter to crash in a city this year. In January a helicopter crashed onto a London street. Rather alarming. Perhaps the government or whoever is in charge of aviation should force all helicopters in the UK to be given a thorough service. Perhaps helicopters should have restricted flights over cities and towns?
The London crash had nothing to do with the safety of the aircraft. It hit a crane whilst flying low on a foggy morning. The pilot sadly misjudged his height.
It's one thing disagreeing with the guys political views (and i definitely do) but you have to be a bit of a sick troll to then use that as an excuse to give him abuse about his father.
While there's no excuse for that vile verbal assault, I'm rather shocked by the guy's open support for terrorism. Not going to say anymore as it's irrelevant to the situation.
hmm. reading his facebook page makes me think he would be anti police regardless of the circumstances. A very political man by the looks of it.
He would be best off making his Facebook page accessible to friends only rather than having it there for anyone to look at.
This is a really tragic accident and suddenly we have numerous helicopter experts and pilots commenting, the pilot could have done this, the pilot could have done that....sadly there will be a million "what ifs" especially for the families who have been bereaved, sadly we may never know the reason why this happened but the pilot was an experienced, former RAF pilot and no doubt, unless he was taken Ill, he would have done everything he could have to try and ditch the helicopter elsewhere.
Best to ignore the TV pundits and read the thread on here for informed opinion.
There's plenty of speculation of course but at least those posting nonsense are soon put right with the facts.
While there's no excuse for that vile verbal assault, I'm rather shocked by the guy's open support for terrorism. Not going to say anymore as it's irrelevant to the situation.
It's all about perception. He doesn't see it that way. He, like many, sees them as freedom fighters.
I too am not a fan of his extreme views and agree they shouldn't have a reflection on what he is going through.
This is the second helicopter to crash in a city this year. In January a helicopter crashed onto a London street. Rather alarming. Perhaps the government or whoever is in charge of aviation should force all helicopters in the UK to be given a thorough service. Perhaps helicopters should have restricted flights over cities and towns?
It's also the third time that the Scottish Police Forces only helicopter has crashed and the second time it has hit a Glasgow building in a fatal accident.
I've seen it spending quite a lot of time in areas that I know have a very low crime rate so I've wondered in a few forums how necessary it really is if it's got time to spend in places without significant crime.
Oddly, some people have reacted like I'm insulting their religion to express doubt for the need of police helicopters, even though I've pointed out that many cities don't have them and are fine without them.
Oddly, some people have reacted like I'm insulting their religion to express doubt for the need of police helicopters, even though I've pointed out that many cities don't have them and are fine without them.
I'd be surpised if any reasonably sized UK city doesn't have a Police Chopper.
It's also the third time that the Scottish Police Forces only helicopter has crashed and the second time it has hit a Glasgow building in a fatal accident.
I've seen it spending quite a lot of time in areas that I know have a very low crime rate so I've wondered in a few forums how necessary it really is if it's got time to spend in places without significant crime.
How on earth would you know what was happening at a particular time? Furthermore just because the helicopter is over an area doesn't mean that's where it is working. Very often it's used for surveillance operations and will stand off from the target, using it's optics to "zoom in"...............that way the bad guys don't hear it.
Oddly, some people have reacted like I'm insulting their religion to express doubt for the need of police helicopters, even though I've pointed out that many cities don't have them and are fine without them.
Most major cities do have them. I have little doubt folks have reacted strangely to your comments................if they are as poorly thought out as this one.
How many police helicopters operate in Scotland? Is the Telegraph correct in saying that there was only one, and thus now none?
The police helicopter which crashed into the Clutha bar in Glasgow was the only one in operation in Scotland and the disaster has left the country’s national force without a helicopter.
It's also the third time that the Scottish Police Forces only helicopter has crashed and the second time it has hit a Glasgow building in a fatal accident.
I've seen it spending quite a lot of time in areas that I know have a very low crime rate so I've wondered in a few forums how necessary it really is if it's got time to spend in places without significant crime.
Oddly, some people have reacted like I'm insulting their religion to express doubt for the need of police helicopters, even though I've pointed out that many cities don't have them and are fine without them.
I. Most Police authorites do have an assigned helicopter which generally serve their whole area if not specifically a city. Helicopters are assigned to areas when needed, and generally, because of population density, there is probably more need for a helicopter in a dense urban area than in a rural area.
2. Crime happens in all areas, good and bad. For all any of us know, they may be travelling over a low crime area to get to a high crime area.
3. Unless a detailed daily account is made available to the public, most of us have little or no knowledge of why a helicopter is over their area. The copter may not necessarily be responding to a crime, but may be providing surveillance or may be using heat-seeking equipment to identify 'drug factories, or may be responding to a major accident. They are not just used to follow joyriders (although if joyriders are not stopped , they can cause fatalities!)
4. Do you think air ambulances should not be allowed in urban areas as well?
5. Given the number of flying hours, police helicopter crashes are remarkably few, compared with fatal accidents involved with police cars responding to a crime. .
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Jesus! I'm just reading that guys comments!
Always the case in a tragedy. I've never watched it again since Kay Burley being oh so clever during the hunt from April Jones. I loathe that woman with a passion. Kay Burley that is, in case it's not obvious.
I don't think I've ever watched her to be honest (I don't have Sky and tend to go to the BBC site for news) but read enough about her on DS - if I have seen her then I can't remember doing so.. To me there's a line when tragedies like this happen. I know it's their job and all that but just basic common decency should be there.
"The BBC's Sophie Long says ambulances have been seen leaving the cordoned off area around the pub and are believed to have contained the bodies of victims."
Very poignant to see emergency teams form guard of honour as remaining victim's body removed from #Clutha pub. #respect"
As sad as the sight must be I hope it helps bring some comfort to their loved ones / relatives that their bodies have been found.
Fingers crossed that one day she'll rub someone up the wrong way with her stupid & insensitive questions & they'll end up given her a right hook.
hmm. reading his facebook page makes me think he would be anti police regardless of the circumstances. A very political man by the looks of it.
The London crash had nothing to do with the safety of the aircraft. It hit a crane whilst flying low on a foggy morning. The pilot sadly misjudged his height.
It's one thing disagreeing with the guys political views (and i definitely do) but you have to be a bit of a sick troll to then use that as an excuse to give him abuse about his father.
Hope the guy gets the book thrown at him!
While there's no excuse for that vile verbal assault, I'm rather shocked by the guy's open support for terrorism. Not going to say anymore as it's irrelevant to the situation.
He would be best off making his Facebook page accessible to friends only rather than having it there for anyone to look at.
This is a really tragic accident and suddenly we have numerous helicopter experts and pilots commenting, the pilot could have done this, the pilot could have done that....sadly there will be a million "what ifs" especially for the families who have been bereaved, sadly we may never know the reason why this happened but the pilot was an experienced, former RAF pilot and no doubt, unless he was taken Ill, he would have done everything he could have to try and ditch the helicopter elsewhere.
There's plenty of speculation of course but at least those posting nonsense are soon put right with the facts.
It's all about perception. He doesn't see it that way. He, like many, sees them as freedom fighters.
I too am not a fan of his extreme views and agree they shouldn't have a reflection on what he is going through.
It's also the third time that the Scottish Police Forces only helicopter has crashed and the second time it has hit a Glasgow building in a fatal accident.
I've seen it spending quite a lot of time in areas that I know have a very low crime rate so I've wondered in a few forums how necessary it really is if it's got time to spend in places without significant crime.
Oddly, some people have reacted like I'm insulting their religion to express doubt for the need of police helicopters, even though I've pointed out that many cities don't have them and are fine without them.
I'd be surpised if any reasonably sized UK city doesn't have a Police Chopper.
That was caused by a blizzard - hardly the same
How on earth would you know what was happening at a particular time? Furthermore just because the helicopter is over an area doesn't mean that's where it is working. Very often it's used for surveillance operations and will stand off from the target, using it's optics to "zoom in"...............that way the bad guys don't hear it.
Most major cities do have them. I have little doubt folks have reacted strangely to your comments................if they are as poorly thought out as this one.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/10485595/Crash-leaves-Scotland-without-police-helicopter.html
I think the fact that 9 have died and 12 are in critical condition a damn shame.
I. Most Police authorites do have an assigned helicopter which generally serve their whole area if not specifically a city. Helicopters are assigned to areas when needed, and generally, because of population density, there is probably more need for a helicopter in a dense urban area than in a rural area.
2. Crime happens in all areas, good and bad. For all any of us know, they may be travelling over a low crime area to get to a high crime area.
3. Unless a detailed daily account is made available to the public, most of us have little or no knowledge of why a helicopter is over their area. The copter may not necessarily be responding to a crime, but may be providing surveillance or may be using heat-seeking equipment to identify 'drug factories, or may be responding to a major accident. They are not just used to follow joyriders (although if joyriders are not stopped , they can cause fatalities!)
4. Do you think air ambulances should not be allowed in urban areas as well?
5. Given the number of flying hours, police helicopter crashes are remarkably few, compared with fatal accidents involved with police cars responding to a crime. .
That is correct. There was only one police helicopter for the whole of Scotland.