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Nelson Mandela has died

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My husband and I need an argument settling- is Mandela dead? I seem to recall American guests on This Morning mention his death months ago but husband reckons he's still on life support.

It's an exciting night in the Noooway household...
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    Peter VenkmanPeter Venkman Posts: 1,769
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    Noooway wrote: »
    My husband and I need an argument settling- is Mandela dead? I seem to recall American guests on This Morning mention his death months ago but husband reckons he's still on life support.

    It's an exciting night in the Noooway household...

    You have a connection to the Internet. Did you try Google?
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    Si_CreweSi_Crewe Posts: 40,202
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    He's still alive, apparently.

    There are some tinfoil hatists who think he died months ago and the authorities are just frightened to release the news in case it causes riots in SA but you know what those sorts are like.
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    If he were dead, there would be no end of news stories and documentaries detailing his life.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,118
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    I have to admit I am a bit of a tin foil hattist and think that he died ages ago, I just wondered what fellow DS users made of it. Mr Noooway googled it for me and proved me wrong.
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    ArmiArmi Posts: 3,317
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    Officially he's still alive. Whatever that means.
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    Si_CreweSi_Crewe Posts: 40,202
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    Noooway wrote: »
    I have to admit I am a bit of a tin foil hattist and think that he died ages ago, I just wondered what fellow DS users made of it. Mr Noooway googled it for me and proved me wrong.

    Kind of vaguely interesting....

    Common sense would dictate that we'd know when he dies, for sure, cos his relatives would announce it.
    Thing is, that might not necessarily be the case.
    Seems that there are various factions of the Mandela family who're all battling for the right to take possession of his remains (once he's dead, of course) cos they know what a money-spinner it can be.
    As a result of all this, they might not be as transparent with the information as they could be if they think there might be an opportunity to strengthen their own claim on his remains.

    If I was Mandela I'd have it written into my will that my ashes get chucked out of a plane flying over the scrublands or summat, just to put an end to the bullshit.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,607
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    Apparently, he is not dead. However, whether that is true or not, depends on your definition of 'alive'.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,118
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    Would they really keep him in a vegative state on life support for months on end? It seems a bit cruel.
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    PootmatootPootmatoot Posts: 15,640
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    Most of the proper press seems to think he's probably brain-dead, and has been a long while now. Still breathing, but not "alive" as such.

    The only positive pieces of news have come from very fishy family sources.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,118
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    Pootmatoot wrote: »
    Most of the proper press seems to think he's probably brain-dead, and has been a long while now. Still breathing, but not "alive" as such.

    The only positive pieces of news have come from very fishyy family sources.

    Yes, there seems to be strange behaviour surrounding a grave/tomb IIRC
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    From the BBC website yesterday, his daughter says he is alive.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25214805
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    Noooway wrote: »
    Yes, there seems to be strange behaviour surrounding a grave/tomb IIRC


    You mean this. It wasn't Mandela.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23159159
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    PootmatootPootmatoot Posts: 15,640
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    woodbush wrote: »
    You mean this. It wasn't Mandela.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23159159



    That's not the point the commenter was making.

    It's about the fight over the "official" Mandela family tomb.


    It's also customary in SA to never talk of death or dying, especially of such an iconic figure... no-one will ever report he's on the way out.... the first report will be he's dead. Physically dead, not mentally dead, as is now probably the case.
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    He's out selling timeshare in Durban.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
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    Pootmatoot wrote: »
    That's not the point the commenter was making.

    It's about the fight over the "official" Mandela family tomb.


    It's also customary in SA to never talk of death or dying, especially of such an iconic figure... no-one will ever report he's on the way out.... the first report will be he's dead. Physically dead, not mentally dead, as is now probably the case.

    Was it, how do you know:s
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    Green ThingGreen Thing Posts: 1,885
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    Could be A Christmas Day death
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    Si_CreweSi_Crewe Posts: 40,202
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    Noooway wrote: »
    Yes, there seems to be strange behaviour surrounding a grave/tomb IIRC

    I believe that one faction of his family has already bought a plot of land to build a "Mandela theme-park" on and they want his remains to endorse the venture.

    Meanwhile, another bunch own his house and they're hoping for the remains so they can turn it into a south-african version of "Graceland".

    All very classy. :s
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    jackoljackol Posts: 7,887
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    Si_Crewe wrote: »
    I believe that one faction of his family has already bought a plot of land to build a "Mandela theme-park" on and they want his remains to endorse the venture.

    Meanwhile, another bunch own his house and they're hoping for the remains so they can turn it into a south-african version of "Graceland".

    All very classy. :s

    They sound like the SA version of the Jacksons
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    Trsvis_BickleTrsvis_Bickle Posts: 9,202
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    Si_Crewe wrote: »
    I believe that one faction of his family has already bought a plot of land to build a "Mandela theme-park" on and they want his remains to endorse the venture.

    Meanwhile, another bunch own his house and they're hoping for the remains so they can turn it into a south-african version of "Graceland".

    All very classy. :s

    Ha ha! I can just see the attractions; instead of a 5-minute roller coaster ride, you can sit in a small room for 25 years.

    Re-live all the excitement of apartheid South Africa; assemble your very own souvenir letter bomb, take part in a riot, necklace an informer...
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    lemoncurdlemoncurd Posts: 57,778
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    Ha ha! I can just see the attractions; instead of a 5-minute roller coaster ride, you can sit in a small room for 25 years.

    Re-live all the excitement of apartheid South Africa; assemble your very own souvenir letter bomb, take part in a riot, necklace an informer...

    All sounds less painful than a day at Alton Towers, TBH.
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    ElyanElyan Posts: 8,781
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    Could be A Christmas Day death

    It's not Eastenders.
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    SambdaSambda Posts: 6,213
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    Could be A Christmas Day death

    Hopefully - that most of us would miss the swathes of TV with members of S Club 7, Big Brother "stars" and other ignoramuses doing endless vox-pops about what a great man he was.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 21,093
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    Could be A Christmas Day death

    Won't someone think of the tv schedule!
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    Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,306
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    Remember that song, 'Free Nelson Mandela'? They should re-record it, as 'Free Nelson Mandela's hospital bed and life-support machine for some other poor bugger who actually stands a chance of pulling through.'
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    FortyTwo25FortyTwo25 Posts: 5,170
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    I think he is now. They'll release a statement when ready
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