Since when does an opinion make you deluded? What if someone really thinks her version is flawless?
From the Psychology today website
Delusional disorder refers to a condition associated with one or more nonbizarre delusions of thinking—such as expressing beliefs that occur in real life such as being poisoned, being stalked, being loved or deceived, or having an illness, provided no other symptoms of schizophrenia are exhibited.
Delusions may seem believable at face value, and patients may appear normal as long as an outsider does not touch upon their delusional themes. Mood episodes are relatively brief compared with the total duration of the delusional periods. Also, these delusions are not due to a medical condition or substance abuse.
So, Abi fans would not be delusional if there was some credibility to statements on the lines of "Abi is flawless", but Abi's performances are hugely flawed, so her fans must be delusional. Is she the most flawed contestant? No. But she is not perfect. Not even close.
It's a personal opinion whether you think something is flawless or not. You clearly can't handle other people's opinions so I really don't think forums are for you.
So, Abi fans would not be delusional if there was some credibility to statements on the lines of "Abi is flawless", but Abi's performances are hugely flawed, so her fans must be delusional. Is she the most flawed contestant? No. But she is not perfect. Not even close.
The fact you even googled it makes it even more sad. It doesn't even make sense with what I said, but hey.. you've tried though.
Anyway, I wasn't talking about Abi fans. I was talking about in general, I for one did think she sounded flawless and I'm far from an Abi stan. I didn't like her voice on the show but this made me shut up for those 3 minutes. Take a seat and make it less embarrassing for you next time.
The fact you even googled it makes it even more sad. It doesn't even make sense with what I said, but hey.. you've tried though.
Anyway, I wasn't talking about Abi fans. I was talking about in general, I for one did think she sounded flawless and I'm far from an Abi stan. I didn't like her voice on the show but this made me shut up for those 3 minutes. Take a seat and make it less embarrassing for you next time.
You cut me to the quick.
But you'll not get me listening to any more of the Virgin Teen's soporific warbling; I heard enough on the show.
Then your ass better not be on the next Abi thread.
Will you be daring me to jump off a bridge next?
I've heard her, several times, I have formed an opinion based on what I've heard and shall exercise my right to voice that opinion as I see fit. Or not, depending on just how bored I am.
I've heard her, several times, I have formed an opinion based on what I've heard and shall exercise my right to voice that opinion as I see fit. Or not, depending on just how bored I am.
Oh, interesting. Dragging artists when you're bored. Sounds like the definition of a troll.
I just don't see why you'd be on an Abi thread while you just said you don't want to hear anything from her again. Stop contradicting yourself.
Oh, interesting. Dragging artists when you're bored. Sounds like the definition of a troll.
I just don't see why you'd be on an Abi thread while you just said you don't want to hear anything from her again. Stop contradicting yourself.
This is still the discussion part of the forum isn't it? Or did I miss a memo?
If you wish to state your undying love and hail Abi as the savior of popular music without having your opinions contested then I suggest the appreciation thread would safeguard you from having to read critisism of your goddess!
I just don't see why you'd be on an Abi thread while you just said you don't want to hear anything from her again. Stop contradicting yourself.
I don't see how it is contradictory to say I think Alton's a bit sh!t and to also say I'd rather not hear her music again. I'm on the thread because I think her fans are demonstrating poor taste and need to be told before they embarrass themselves - it's a public service, not trolling.
This is still the discussion part of the forum isn't it? Or did I miss a memo?
If you wish to state your undying love and hail Abi as the savior of popular music without having your opinions contested then I suggest the appreciation thread would safeguard you from having to read critisism of your goddess!
This is still the discussion part of the forum isn't it? Or did I miss a memo?
If you wish to state your undying love and hail Abi as the savior of popular music without having your opinions contested then I suggest the appreciation thread would safeguard you from having to read critisism of your goddess!
Yes, and we're having a discussion right? So, what's the problem?
I'm not a fan of Abi actually. Get your facts right before you join the discussion, better luck next time.
I don't see how it is contradictory to say I think Alton's a bit sh!t and to also say I'd rather not hear her music again. I'm on the thread because I think her fans are demonstrating poor taste and need to be told before they embarrass themselves - it's a public service, not trolling.
Wait, you're saying their opinion should be the same as yours? You say they're not allowed to love Abi's voice? Oh, wow. You just reached the highest level of embarrasment.
Yes, and we're having a discussion right? So, what's the problem?
I'm not a fan of Abi actually. Get your facts right before you join the discussion, better luck next time.
Oh right you are then! I'll just watch, if that's alright with you!
Are you here for the 5 minute argument or the full half hour?
Wait, you're saying their opinion should be the same as yours? You say they're not allowed to love Abi's voice? Oh, wow. You just reached the highest level of embarrasment.
That's the thing about taste - it isn't subjective it's normative. Some people have bad taste, do you want me to just walk by, without offering to help? Without telling them? That seems cruel. You cruel person.
And you can love the sound of Ms Alton's voice, that's fine; all I have said is that it is not perfect - often it is the imperfections that we love. Her music, on the other hand, is sh!t; dreary, over-wrought, doggerel. I can only assume her music is meant to strike a chord with angst-ridden teeny girls and make them feel better about being ugly and not having a boyfriend.
That's the thing about taste - it isn't subjective it's normative. Some people have bad taste, do you want me to just walk by, without offering to help? Without telling them? That seems cruel. You cruel person.
And you can love the sound of Ms Alton's voice, that's fine; all I have said is that it is not perfect - often it is the imperfections that we love. Her music, on the other hand, is sh!t; dreary, over-wrought, doggerel. I can only assume her music is meant to strike a chord with angst-ridden teeny girls and make them feel better about being ugly and not having a boyfriend.
What kind of BS have I just read? You're doing the most...
Taste is an individual's personal choice and preference, which is subjective. If you think someone's taste is bad then that's only YOUR opinion. Same for clothes, you can say someone style is bad, but that doesn't mean they think it's bad.
What kind of BS have I just read? You're doing the most...
Taste is an individual's personal choice and preference, which is subjective. If you think someone's taste is bad then that's only YOUR opinion. Same for clothes, you can say someone style is bad, but that doesn't mean they think it's bad.
It's getting worse for you.
No it is not! If it were there would be no such thing as bad taste, but there is. Taste is not objective, but it is not subjective either; it is about group membership - it is normative. The dominant taste is that of the most powerful social group, they form what is often called an hegemony - defining what is acceptable, the standard by which we are judged. If taste were "subjective" there could be no such thing as fashion and the pop-charts would not exist.
No it is not! If it were there would be no such thing as bad taste, but there is. Taste is not objective, but it is not subjective either; it is about group membership - it is normative. The dominant taste is that of the most powerful social group, they form what is often called an hegemony - defining what is acceptable, the standard by which we are judged. If taste were "subjective" there could be no such thing as fashion and the pop-charts would not exist.
Taste is a personal preference and choice, one can say someone's taste is bad but who's taste is bad then? I mean, it's not because you say their taste is bad, that it actually is.
Fashion is all about opinions, you don't like it then that's an opinion and probably because it doesn't fit with your taste. But does that make the other one's taste bad? No it doesn't.
Lmao I can't @ people basically saying taste is a fact. It's CLEARLY an opinion, I'm sure we all think our own tastes in everything are good and certain others are bad if we don't like them. Dear god.
Taste is a personal preference and choice, one can say someone's taste is bad but who's taste is bad then? I mean, it's not because you say their taste is bad, that it actually is.
Fashion is all about opinions, you don't like it then that's an opinion and probably because it doesn't fit with your taste. But does that make the other one's taste bad? No it doesn't.
Shared opinions - so not subjective. It's not personal reference, but group preference.
And why is the term "bad taste" so prevalent if it has no meaning? That's a rhetorical question.
Lmao I can't @ people basically saying taste is a fact. It's CLEARLY an opinion, I'm sure we all think our own tastes in everything are good and certain others are bad if we don't like them. Dear god.
I didn't say taste was "a fact" that would make no sense. I am saying it is not subjective, it is not just a matter of "opinion".
Shared opinions - so not subjective. It's not personal reference, but group preference.
And why is the term "bad taste" so prevalent if it has no meaning? That's a rhetorical question.
I've seen alot of ridiculous things but your comments just beat it everytime.
The fact you even think your "taste" is superieur than the taste of the members here......
Especially not when you stan for Misha B :kitty: What a bad taste you have.
I've seen alot of ridiculous things but your comments just beat it everytime.
The fact you even think your "taste" is superieur than the taste of the members here......
Especially not when you stan for Misha B :kitty: What a bad taste you have.
I am happy and comfortable in my taste in music. Misha will never make a record I would buy, I think RnB is for children, but she is a highly accomplished performer - gauging that's not a matter of taste, but simple observation.
And regardless of whether my taste is superior, taste is not subjective - there are standards.
I am happy and comfortable in my taste in music. Misha will never make a record I would buy, I think RnB is for children, but she is a highly accomplished performer - gauging that's not a matter of taste, but simple observation.
And regardless of whether my taste is superior, taste is not subjective - there are standards.
And the members on here aren't?
"Taste has standards".. Shaking my head so hard right now it gives me a headache.
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From the Psychology today website
So, Abi fans would not be delusional if there was some credibility to statements on the lines of "Abi is flawless", but Abi's performances are hugely flawed, so her fans must be delusional. Is she the most flawed contestant? No. But she is not perfect. Not even close.
It's a personal opinion whether you think something is flawless or not. You clearly can't handle other people's opinions so I really don't think forums are for you.
The fact you even googled it makes it even more sad. It doesn't even make sense with what I said, but hey.. you've tried though.
Anyway, I wasn't talking about Abi fans. I was talking about in general, I for one did think she sounded flawless and I'm far from an Abi stan. I didn't like her voice on the show but this made me shut up for those 3 minutes. Take a seat and make it less embarrassing for you next time.
You cut me to the quick.
But you'll not get me listening to any more of the Virgin Teen's soporific warbling; I heard enough on the show.
Then your ass better not be on the next Abi thread.
Will you be daring me to jump off a bridge next?
I've heard her, several times, I have formed an opinion based on what I've heard and shall exercise my right to voice that opinion as I see fit. Or not, depending on just how bored I am.
Oh, interesting. Dragging artists when you're bored. Sounds like the definition of a troll.
I just don't see why you'd be on an Abi thread while you just said you don't want to hear anything from her again. Stop contradicting yourself.
This is still the discussion part of the forum isn't it? Or did I miss a memo?
If you wish to state your undying love and hail Abi as the savior of popular music without having your opinions contested then I suggest the appreciation thread would safeguard you from having to read critisism of your goddess!
I don't see how it is contradictory to say I think Alton's a bit sh!t and to also say I'd rather not hear her music again. I'm on the thread because I think her fans are demonstrating poor taste and need to be told before they embarrass themselves - it's a public service, not trolling.
Well said.
Yes, and we're having a discussion right? So, what's the problem?
I'm not a fan of Abi actually. Get your facts right before you join the discussion, better luck next time.
Wait, you're saying their opinion should be the same as yours? You say they're not allowed to love Abi's voice? Oh, wow. You just reached the highest level of embarrasment.
Oh right you are then! I'll just watch, if that's alright with you!
Are you here for the 5 minute argument or the full half hour?
Im here as long as it takes.
Ok. Good luck. Mum's the word! ^_^
That's the thing about taste - it isn't subjective it's normative. Some people have bad taste, do you want me to just walk by, without offering to help? Without telling them? That seems cruel. You cruel person.
And you can love the sound of Ms Alton's voice, that's fine; all I have said is that it is not perfect - often it is the imperfections that we love. Her music, on the other hand, is sh!t; dreary, over-wrought, doggerel. I can only assume her music is meant to strike a chord with angst-ridden teeny girls and make them feel better about being ugly and not having a boyfriend.
What kind of BS have I just read? You're doing the most...
Taste is an individual's personal choice and preference, which is subjective. If you think someone's taste is bad then that's only YOUR opinion. Same for clothes, you can say someone style is bad, but that doesn't mean they think it's bad.
It's getting worse for you.
No it is not! If it were there would be no such thing as bad taste, but there is. Taste is not objective, but it is not subjective either; it is about group membership - it is normative. The dominant taste is that of the most powerful social group, they form what is often called an hegemony - defining what is acceptable, the standard by which we are judged. If taste were "subjective" there could be no such thing as fashion and the pop-charts would not exist.
Taste is a personal preference and choice, one can say someone's taste is bad but who's taste is bad then? I mean, it's not because you say their taste is bad, that it actually is.
Fashion is all about opinions, you don't like it then that's an opinion and probably because it doesn't fit with your taste. But does that make the other one's taste bad? No it doesn't.
Shared opinions - so not subjective. It's not personal reference, but group preference.
And why is the term "bad taste" so prevalent if it has no meaning? That's a rhetorical question.
I didn't say taste was "a fact" that would make no sense. I am saying it is not subjective, it is not just a matter of "opinion".
I've seen alot of ridiculous things but your comments just beat it everytime.
The fact you even think your "taste" is superieur than the taste of the members here......
Especially not when you stan for Misha B :kitty: What a bad taste you have.
I am happy and comfortable in my taste in music. Misha will never make a record I would buy, I think RnB is for children, but she is a highly accomplished performer - gauging that's not a matter of taste, but simple observation.
And regardless of whether my taste is superior, taste is not subjective - there are standards.
And the members on here aren't?
"Taste has standards".. Shaking my head so hard right now it gives me a headache.
It's simple utter hate, that's all.