Oh geez, how would i even begin to explain that.
It means a number of things but there are a few very unpleasant interpretations, contexts and usages to it.
I haven't used it since i was a teenager, and doubt i would use it.
In one of it's more common contexts and usage, it's very degrading, and lowering and disrespectful toward Females.
It would be difficult to explain to someone where they didn't grow up with this usage/context, as one would need to understand what it meant when guys used it in certain context/subject to see why it's degrading, disrespectful, lowering.
Oh geez, how would i even begin to explain that.
It means a number of things but there are a few very unpleasant interpretations, contexts and usages to it.
I haven't used it since i was a teenager, and doubt i would use it.
In one of it's more common contexts and usage, it's very degrading, and lowering and disrespectful toward Females.
It would be difficult to explain to someone where they didn't grow up with this usage/context, as one would need to understand what it meant when guys used it in certain context/subject to see why it's degrading, disrespectful, lowering.
Trust me it has the exact same meaning in the UK, and yet is used with wild abandon at times on here.
I don't see the word as being any more shocking or different to when women call men 'bastard', which they frequently do, and especially on CBB tonight.
Trust me it has the exact same meaning in the UK, and yet is used with wild abandon at times on here.
Really? This discussion came up in the past when that male porno star guy called Caroline "the b word", and i left under the impression it was used in a different context/usage than in the US.
If so, i guess i wouldn't be that surprised... it's still used frequently in the US even among people who would be aware of what meaning and context/subtext it can carry.
I don't see the word as being any more shocking or different to when women call men 'bastard', which they frequently do, and especially on CBB tonight.
Well, it begins to enter into territory where males have been in an empowered position since the beginning of humanity and where Females have been lowered, degraded and disrespected for such a long time.
Taking that aspect into consideration, a word that is intended to disrespect, lower and degrade Females carries alot of weight.
Oh geez, how would i even begin to explain that.
It means a number of things but there are a few very unpleasant interpretations, contexts and usages to it.
I haven't used it since i was a teenager, and doubt i would use it.
In one of it's more common contexts and usage, it's very degrading, and lowering and disrespectful toward Females.
It would be difficult to explain to someone where they didn't grow up with this usage/context, as one would need to understand what it meant when guys used it in certain context/subject to see why it's degrading, disrespectful, lowering.
Really? This discussion came up in the past when that male porno star guy called Caroline "the b word", and i left under the impression it was used in a different context/usage than in the US.
If so, i guess i wouldn't be that surprised... it's still used frequently in the US even among people who would be aware of what meaning and context/subtext it can carry.
Yeah, it means exactly the same thing which is why I was confused and thought that maybe there was something else entirely that it meant in the US. It can be used to describe a female dog but when you hear the word that is not the first thing that usually comes to mind.
Really? This discussion came up in the past when that male porno star guy called Caroline "the b word", and i left under the impression it was used in a different context/usage than in the US.
If so, i guess i wouldn't be that surprised... it's still used frequently in the US even among people who would be aware of what meaning and context/subtext it can carry.
I'm British and a guy and yes calling women bitches has the same connotations, and I don't know a single one of my British friends both male or female who would disagree. Anyone who is British and tells you it doesn't have some pretty obvious negative undertones I would think might be being a bit disingenuous with you to be honest.
I'm not sure how the following translates to the US but certain types if women are called slags (bit like ho I guess) and all manner of other pretty derogatory names on here.
I Like her ,
and can't understand why Jasmine is more popular than her .
I really dont think they're 2 of a kind , i think they are very different , i really dont like Jasmine .
i didnt vote the last eviction because i thought she would be safe but i will this time .
Jim and Lionel and all their passive-aggressive phony behavior are a lot bitchier than Luisa. But for some reason that adjective is reserved for women only.
I'm British and a guy and yes calling women bitches has the same connotations, and I don't know a single one of my British friends both male or female who would disagree. Anyone who is British and tells you it doesn't have some pretty obvious negative undertones I would think might be being a bit disingenuous with you to be honest.
I'm not sure how the following translates to the US but certain types if women are called slags (bit like ho I guess) and all manner of other pretty derogatory names on here.
Men get a far easier ride on shows like this.
Indeed they do, indeed they do.
Where i interpret this context/subtext in usage is mainly from where guys use it toward each other.
When a guy is meaning to lower another guy, he will use this word in essence placing them as a Female and within the perception that they are less of a man as it were.
Or, if a guy calls another guy the word in general they will consider it offensive, why? Because it's as if being placed as a Female.
This is a very basic overview, but as one can see the word is used to lower a male or offend a male based within this perception, Female being the constant.
Male A says to Male B, "you're my b word!", meaning to place him in a position lower than an equal man and as of that as a Female. (implying that a Female is lower or something to be insulted or offended by)
When males get into arguments they will frequently use the word as an insult within this context/subtext, as if being somehow lower than a man and it will usually lead to a male proving himself to be a man in either fighting or some other masculine action.
It's usages in these contexts/subtexts are similar to "the c word" or, any of the general Female anatomy words.
It's not an insult or offense that's based or connected with a male, it's basis of offense is it's Female connection and what that implies.
This goes with alot of sexist, lowering, and disrespecting and degrading of Females from males.
I know alot of it very well because i grew up around alot of these manly "tough" guys.
Girls were referred to as their "b word" or "b words" and there was little respect shown for/toward them.
None of these guys wanted to be placed on that level, a level perceived to be much lower, and disrespect and offensive because that's how they perceived general Females (not their mothers but most other Females) as being lower, as not having respect for, etc
Considering that, if a male had a great respect for Females and Femininity why and/or what would be insulting/offensive to them at being connected to or with something to do with Females/Femininity.
[in being called "the b word", in being called "a girl", in being called one of the various words for Female anatomy, etc]
Also, along those lines... one will find a similar perspective where homosexuality/gay is offensive because of the Femininity in a somewhat similar context/subtext, where lesbianism isn't so because of the more male aspects involved. A girl essentially taking on the role of a male in their perception.
In this usage/context it's basically at it's heart intended to disrespect, degrade, lower Females only.
Because of this, even in usage that within separate context/subtext i still feel like it crosses over. Others might not feel so strongly about it and might not see it as crossing over necessarily which is fair enough but for me just like "the c word", and a few other words i feel it's enough to see it within that context/subtext throughout, and so why i can't stand the word.
Jim and Lionel and all their passive-aggressive phony behavior are a lot bitchier than Luisa. But for some reason that adjective is reserved for women only.
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Why, what does the "B word" mean in America?
Oh geez, how would i even begin to explain that.
It means a number of things but there are a few very unpleasant interpretations, contexts and usages to it.
I haven't used it since i was a teenager, and doubt i would use it.
In one of it's more common contexts and usage, it's very degrading, and lowering and disrespectful toward Females.
It would be difficult to explain to someone where they didn't grow up with this usage/context, as one would need to understand what it meant when guys used it in certain context/subject to see why it's degrading, disrespectful, lowering.
Trust me it has the exact same meaning in the UK, and yet is used with wild abandon at times on here.
Really? This discussion came up in the past when that male porno star guy called Caroline "the b word", and i left under the impression it was used in a different context/usage than in the US.
If so, i guess i wouldn't be that surprised... it's still used frequently in the US even among people who would be aware of what meaning and context/subtext it can carry.
Well, it begins to enter into territory where males have been in an empowered position since the beginning of humanity and where Females have been lowered, degraded and disrespected for such a long time.
Taking that aspect into consideration, a word that is intended to disrespect, lower and degrade Females carries alot of weight.
Yeah, it means exactly the same thing which is why I was confused and thought that maybe there was something else entirely that it meant in the US. It can be used to describe a female dog but when you hear the word that is not the first thing that usually comes to mind.
I'm British and a guy and yes calling women bitches has the same connotations, and I don't know a single one of my British friends both male or female who would disagree. Anyone who is British and tells you it doesn't have some pretty obvious negative undertones I would think might be being a bit disingenuous with you to be honest.
I'm not sure how the following translates to the US but certain types if women are called slags (bit like ho I guess) and all manner of other pretty derogatory names on here.
Men get a far easier ride on shows like this.
and can't understand why Jasmine is more popular than her .
I really dont think they're 2 of a kind , i think they are very different , i really dont like Jasmine .
i didnt vote the last eviction because i thought she would be safe but i will this time .
Indeed they do, indeed they do.
Where i interpret this context/subtext in usage is mainly from where guys use it toward each other.
When a guy is meaning to lower another guy, he will use this word in essence placing them as a Female and within the perception that they are less of a man as it were.
Or, if a guy calls another guy the word in general they will consider it offensive, why? Because it's as if being placed as a Female.
This is a very basic overview, but as one can see the word is used to lower a male or offend a male based within this perception, Female being the constant.
Male A says to Male B, "you're my b word!", meaning to place him in a position lower than an equal man and as of that as a Female. (implying that a Female is lower or something to be insulted or offended by)
When males get into arguments they will frequently use the word as an insult within this context/subtext, as if being somehow lower than a man and it will usually lead to a male proving himself to be a man in either fighting or some other masculine action.
It's usages in these contexts/subtexts are similar to "the c word" or, any of the general Female anatomy words.
It's not an insult or offense that's based or connected with a male, it's basis of offense is it's Female connection and what that implies.
This goes with alot of sexist, lowering, and disrespecting and degrading of Females from males.
I know alot of it very well because i grew up around alot of these manly "tough" guys.
Girls were referred to as their "b word" or "b words" and there was little respect shown for/toward them.
None of these guys wanted to be placed on that level, a level perceived to be much lower, and disrespect and offensive because that's how they perceived general Females (not their mothers but most other Females) as being lower, as not having respect for, etc
Considering that, if a male had a great respect for Females and Femininity why and/or what would be insulting/offensive to them at being connected to or with something to do with Females/Femininity.
[in being called "the b word", in being called "a girl", in being called one of the various words for Female anatomy, etc]
Also, along those lines... one will find a similar perspective where homosexuality/gay is offensive because of the Femininity in a somewhat similar context/subtext, where lesbianism isn't so because of the more male aspects involved. A girl essentially taking on the role of a male in their perception.
In this usage/context it's basically at it's heart intended to disrespect, degrade, lower Females only.
Because of this, even in usage that within separate context/subtext i still feel like it crosses over. Others might not feel so strongly about it and might not see it as crossing over necessarily which is fair enough but for me just like "the c word", and a few other words i feel it's enough to see it within that context/subtext throughout, and so why i can't stand the word.
Hear Hear !