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The Bridge 2 - BBC4

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 44
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    I've just paid 350 -ish SEK for a one way trip (quite excited after watching The Bridge!), you can get a yearly pass thing that does lower the cost.


    Hej MagnusPetersson! Do you have snow there too?
    With car it costs quite alot, but with train only 105 at most, and sometimes 75 at summer. I know this since I live in this region. My town Sölvesborg is 1 hour and 30 minutes from the bridge (and then 20 or 30 minutes more until it stops at Copenhagen downtown at the Central Station). A one way trip from Sölvesborg to Copenhagen it costs 220 SEK with local trains. And the buses are even cheaper, usually 50 SEK for a one way trip. I take the train to Copenhagen quite often, it is (besides Malmö) after all the nearest major city, and the nearest city with a population more than 300,000.

    With train from Malmö to Copenhagen though it's never more than 105 SEK. Many people drives to Malmö, and then takes the train to Copenhagen there, cause its too expensive to drive on it.

    And yes its snowing alot here in Sölvesborg in southern Sweden right now.

    Prices and timetables in English for Malmö-Copenhagen here, with the Øresundståg train that goes every 15 minutes, and yes the price is 105 SEK (£9.93)
    http://www.oresundstag.se/en/Start/

    And only 49 SEK (£4.64) with bus
    http://www.swebus.se/SwebusExpress_com/Search-and-Purchase/Search-Result/?from=5&fromtype=BusStop&to=290&totype=BusStop&away=2014-01-18&home=2014-01-18&Adult=1&Child=0&Youth=0&Student=0&Pensioner=0&Pet=0&campaignCode=
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 44
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    thanks Magnus for your posts! I go to Oslo a lot and it seems Norwegians have little trouble understanding Danish (and of course none with Swedish - other than a slight dislike of Swedes for historical reasons and saying Stockholm is snooty, whereas Copenhagen is a real Scandinavian city)!

    Has the actor who plays Martin - think he's brilliant - been in any other TV dramas that might come our way?
    He's so much more real and likeable than the English sarky version on The Tunnel. The character development in the Bridge generally is far better than the Tunnel imho. Even small parts like Linus are fully fleshed out (and heartbreaking).
    Kim Bodnia is a very good and famous actor who has been in many Danish movies, like for example Pusher, Nightwatch, They Eat Dogs in China, In a Better World, Terribly Happy etc.

    And yes, Norwegians has little to no problem with understanding Swedish, especially in eastern Norway like Oslo and nearby cities and towns, which is the major populated area of Norway. About 50% of Norway's entire population lives in that area. Danish goes along fine as well.

    It might be a bit harder to understand Swedish for those who lives in western and northern Norway which is more remote and isolated. The dialects they speak in western and northern Norway might also be somewhat hard to understand for Swedes as well as eastern Norwegians. Not impossible to communicate though, talking slowly almost always works. And in really remote parts of western and northern Norway like small villages and fishing communities, my Swedish may be the only way to get around since many people in those areas are not very good at English.
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    VerenceVerence Posts: 104,620
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    Does anyone know what will be in the Euro-Crime slot when The Bridge finishes??
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    allie4allie4 Posts: 11,994
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    Verence wrote: »
    Does anyone know what will be in the Euro-Crime slot when The Bridge finishes??

    No but maybe endless Montalbano repeats... or one-offs? (Not necessarily foreign) Don't want to think about that now!
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    Jim_SJim_S Posts: 168
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    Verence wrote: »
    Does anyone know what will be in the Euro-Crime slot when The Bridge finishes??

    I think BBC4 are showing the Israeli version of Hostages at some point after The Bridge

    Hostages being the show that Ch4 are showing at the moment on a Saturday night
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    WoodentopWoodentop Posts: 3,088
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    Sofia Helin said getting rid of Saga took much longer this time and I wonder if she ever introduced herself either in person or answering the phone as Saga Norèn, Länskrim(?) Malmo!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 26
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    Woodentop wrote: »
    Sofia Helin said getting rid of Saga took much longer this time and I wonder if she ever introduced herself either in person or answering the phone as Saga Norèn, Länskrim(?) Malmo!

    Haha good question.
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    j'aimelatelej'aimelatele Posts: 557
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    Very tense tonight....
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,120
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    That Danish detective Rasmus (or whatever his name is) is a real d**khead
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,909
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    I reckon it's the dying keynote speaker whodunnit all.
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    smudesmude Posts: 17,691
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    chloe_26 wrote: »
    I reckon it's the dying keynote speaker whodunnit all.

    Seems to be pointing that way.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,120
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    The Swedish Police seem to go in very heavy handed every time they arrest a suspect..
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,909
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    No they won't because the Brits aren't very good at languages - many northern and western Europeans can even speak English better than many Brits can (your own post is a great example!). I have never seen a northern European messing up they're/their/there or writing 'could of' instead of 'could have'. I would say that the Scandinavians and Dutch are the best at speaking English as a second language, followed closely by the Germans.

    However I've always been interested in learning languages and can easily tell apart Danish and Swedish by now after watching so many Scandi dramas on BBC4. It also helps that I've got a musical ear and am used to deciphering different sounds due to years playing the piano.

    My first language is Welsh, English second so I find it easy to learn new languages and can tell the difference straight away between Swedish and Danish. My boyfriend however who is English can't tell the difference even after I try to explain it :D
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    tealadytealady Posts: 26,268
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    Don't see how the amateur hour gang who tried to capture Saga knew where she was. How would they even know she was on the case? Odd that she didn't even quiz them on this.

    Don't think the size of a flaccid penis is indicative of the size of an erect one!
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    RandomArbiterRandomArbiter Posts: 419
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    Native Swede here. I have noticed many questions regarding the similarities between Swedish and Danish. Well, I can personally confirm that when it comes to southern Swedes (and I am a southern Swede), it is generally possible to have conversations with our Danish neighbors and speaking our respective languages without any major problems. It's called mutual intelligibility, meaning 2 or more languages that are so similar that you can have conversations in them without any major problems, and without having learnt them.

    You can do that with completely different languages too. My parents speak Chinese to me and I speak English back, we all understand each other perfectly, the conversation flows normally. I never saw this as anything but the norm since I grew up in this environemnt, until my friend saw me talking to my mum, and was astounded that we were having a real time conversation in two distinctly seperate languages.
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,685
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    chloe_26 wrote: »
    My first language is Welsh, English second so I find it easy to learn new languages and can tell the difference straight away between Swedish and Danish. My boyfriend however who is English can't tell the difference even after I try to explain it :D

    I'm the same. Swedish and Danish sounds the same to me.

    Maybe musical ability is something to do with language aptitude. I'm fascinated by languages at an intellectual level but I have zero ability at learning them - it all goes in one ear and then out of the other. I'm the same with music - totally tone deaf and haven't a clue what a "C Sharp" or "D Major" are and what they sounds like.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 44
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    You can do that with completely different languages too. My parents speak Chinese to me and I speak English back, we all understand each other perfectly, the conversation flows normally. I never saw this as anything but the norm since I grew up in this environemnt, until my friend saw me talking to my mum, and was astounded that we were having a real time conversation in two distinctly seperate languages.
    Its not quite the same though. You can not have a serious conversation about something if you dont understand the language. Of course there is body language etc and tones of the words but thats nothing compared to actually understanding what people are saying.

    I was in Lithuania last year, and there most people (at least in the region of Lithuania that I was in) could not speak any English at all, or just a few words. It was pretty troublesome, even when doing a simple thing like ordering a beer until we found out that beer is called "alos" in Lithuanian since many did not even know what "beer" means. To ask a local for road directions took like forever. Problems that never would occur in a country where you understand the language, and I never had such problems in Denmark or Norway.
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    Jimmy_McNultyJimmy_McNulty Posts: 11,378
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    smude wrote: »
    Seems to be pointing that way.

    So it won't be her then ;-)
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    clarriboclarribo Posts: 6,258
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    Verence wrote: »
    Does anyone know what will be in the Euro-Crime slot when The Bridge finishes??

    Series 5 of Spiral?
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    flowerduckflowerduck Posts: 1,583
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    chloe_26 wrote: »
    I reckon it's the dying keynote speaker whodunnit all.

    I am leaning very close to the thought that it could be her brother or Bodil (she's a nice one eh?! - well done to those who predicted her dalliance!). I'm only thinking this for the reason they may have been the only ones who knew the escort chap would be in the park at whatever time (and assuming he was poisoned with the same stuff as the others and assuming the person that did it is the same)

    Or maybe it was Caroline set the whole 'someone texted from my phone' bit up. I haven't a clue why they would do it though(murder Claudio that is - other than to try and frame Caroline's husband) or what links him to the other bits. As you can see I have no idea...:blush:

    I do have one theory but really don't want to say and really hope it isn't that as it is a pretty basic one and I want to be wrong (I'm sure I will be).
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    fossilbearfossilbear Posts: 234
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    Bit puzzled as to why Saga shook the hand and introduced herself to one of the guys who had confronted her at the hotel, when he was sat with his lawyer at the police station. :confused:
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    solaresolare Posts: 11,637
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    Some wonderful Saga moments last night. I felt so sorry for her when Rasmus was having a go.

    Also, some great humorous moments like when she peeped under the sheet at the mortuary and when she was making conversation (as instructed by Martin) with her boyfriend's mother: "Where do you live?", "Do you like it there?" and then adds: "I'm glad you don't live closer" and quotes some statistics about relationships. :D

    She really loves her statistics!

    Also, loved the tender moment by the sea when Martin thanked her for helping Nicolaj. For a moment it looked like he was going to kiss her but (thankfully) thought better of it. They have a great relationship but I hope it never crosses over that line.

    I agree that it does seem to be pointing towards the dying keynote speaker, at the moment, but I hope the writers have a few more surpises in store for us.
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    tealadytealady Posts: 26,268
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    solare wrote: »
    I agree that it does seem to be pointing towards the dying keynote speaker, at the moment, but I hope the writers have a few more surpises in store for us.
    Could be. Her or her brother. I wonder what is exactly wrong with her and whether it involves some product from the pharma industry or the company she is trying to buy.

    Where was her tattoo in the scene with the Sushi chef?
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    solaresolare Posts: 11,637
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    fossilbear wrote: »
    Bit puzzled as to why Saga shook the hand and introduced herself to one of the guys who had confronted her at the hotel, when he was sat with his lawyer at the police station. :confused:
    I thinks it was just because introducing herself formally is one of Saga's "things" (even if it's to someone who earlier confronted her with a gun).
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,685
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    fossilbear wrote: »
    Bit puzzled as to why Saga shook the hand and introduced herself to one of the guys who had confronted her at the hotel, when he was sat with his lawyer at the police station. :confused:

    It's what she does. She always introduces herself by he full name and title, even to children. It's never "Hi, I'm Saga".
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