There is no equivalent insult for a man. “Man ****” is a modified term - the implication being that the man is acting like a **** i.e acting like a woman who sleeps around.
'****' isn't a word for cheat hating, as you put it, it's a word for women hating. If you really believe **** shaming is 'silly made up terminology' then there's really not much more to say.
'****' actually means a dirty, untidy or slovenly woman, and has done since the 15th century. Chaucer also used the word 'sluttish' to describe a slovenly man.
'****' actually means a dirty, untidy or slovenly woman, and has done since the 15th century. Chaucer also used the word 'sluttish' to describe a slovenly man.
didn't that chap from UKIP use it in that sense, to his cost?
I made it very clear I was referring to the act of cheating, not a single woman having lots of consensual sex with other single men, if you choose to take it out of context and make it about 'woman hating' (which is quite hard considering I'm a woman myself) That says more about you then it does about me I'm afraid.
Cheating, having unprotected sex and getting yourself into a ridiculous situation and getting pregnant with another mans baby and deceiving your husband for 9 months is not an acceptable lifestyle choice that needs to be affirmed by made up PC phrases.
And seejay is right also.
And yet again I didn't use the word ****.
Anyway back on topic this thread has been derailed enough.
Remember these stories are based on real events. So if in real life Carol is sent away then she will be in the programme. I was rooting for the doctor to adopt her too, then I remembered it isn't a soap! This has just made me think, I wonder if the baby ever did track down her mother? Or if she's out there now with no idea the story of her birth is a TV drama!
As has been advertised and posted on here, although there is still a bank of stories which have been submitted over and above those which Jennifer Worth had and / or used in her books (which formed the basis of the first two TV series), this is the first series where Heidi Thomas has written more fictional scripts.
I'm not sure as to what extent Thomas is fictionalising but it may be that an actual character called Carol was not born / adopted exactly as shown but that the story-line was based on something very similar???
So in some ways, this is turning a little more away from the dramatisation of real life stories in 3 books (or Worth's versions of real life stories - a point debated previously here over many posts) to a tad more soap-esque status.
But for me, this doesn't matter as the books and the first 2 series were all brilliant and I'm very happy to accept where Heidi Thomas will take it, as it keeps the CTM 'entity / brand / concept' (call it what you will) going.
In one of the books (and earlier episodes) we have actually already had the 'mother giving birth to someone else's non-white baby' story and in that case, the husband did not blink an eye and whether he really did see the reality or not, from moment one, treated the new born as if his own with much 'normal' fatherly love (unlike what we saw last Sunday), after much agonising by the mother (as we saw last Sunday).
As has been advertised and posted on here, although there is still a bank of stories which have been submitted over and above those which Jennifer Worth had and / or used in her books (which formed the basis of the first two TV series), this is the first series where Heidi Thomas has written more fictional scripts.
I'm not sure as to what extent Thomas is fictionalising but it may be that an actual character called Carol was not born / adopted exactly as shown but that the story-line was based on something very similar???
So in some ways, this is turning a little more away from the dramatisation of real life stories in 3 books (or Worth's versions of real life stories - a point debated previously here over many posts) to a tad more soap-esque status.
But for me, this doesn't matter as the books and the first 2 series were all brilliant and I'm very happy to accept where Heidi Thomas will take it, as it keeps the CTM 'entity / brand / concept' (call it what you will) going.
In one of the books (and earlier episodes) we have actually already had the 'mother giving birth to someone else's non-white baby' story and in that case, the husband did not blink an eye and whether he really did see the reality or not, from moment one, treated the new born as if his own with much 'normal' fatherly love (unlike what we saw last Sunday), after much agonising by the mother (as we saw last Sunday).
Oh ok, I didn't realise. All (I think) of the stories in the first two series I recognised from the books. I remember the other mixed raced baby storyline, so heartwarming, although a shame she cheated on him
I expected at some point they would make fictional stories, because heaven forbid they run out of stories while ratings are high! I don't mind it either as long as it doesn't get too soapy, like you say.
Oh ok, I didn't realise. All (I think) of the stories in the first two series I recognised from the books. I remember the other mixed raced baby storyline, so heartwarming, although a shame she cheated on him
I expected at some point they would make fictional stories, because heaven forbid they run out of stories while ratings are high! I don't mind it either as long as it doesn't get too soapy, like you say.
I think if the story lines seem credible in the context of the characters and circumstances of the time, the series will be fine.
If someone came new to it, would they even know one way of another if the stories were real? Its a credit to Heidi Thomas that there is almost a seamless continuation.
I think if the story lines seem credible in the context of the characters and circumstances of the time, the series will be fine.
As I understand it these are stories based on real events as recollected by other midwives and nurses of the period (source: Radio Times interview with the writer).
As I understand it these are stories based on real events as recollected by other midwives and nurses of the period (source: Radio Times interview with the writer).
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'****' actually means a dirty, untidy or slovenly woman, and has done since the 15th century. Chaucer also used the word 'sluttish' to describe a slovenly man.
Cheating, having unprotected sex and getting yourself into a ridiculous situation and getting pregnant with another mans baby and deceiving your husband for 9 months is not an acceptable lifestyle choice that needs to be affirmed by made up PC phrases.
And seejay is right also.
And yet again I didn't use the word ****.
Anyway back on topic this thread has been derailed enough.
As has been advertised and posted on here, although there is still a bank of stories which have been submitted over and above those which Jennifer Worth had and / or used in her books (which formed the basis of the first two TV series), this is the first series where Heidi Thomas has written more fictional scripts.
I'm not sure as to what extent Thomas is fictionalising but it may be that an actual character called Carol was not born / adopted exactly as shown but that the story-line was based on something very similar???
So in some ways, this is turning a little more away from the dramatisation of real life stories in 3 books (or Worth's versions of real life stories - a point debated previously here over many posts) to a tad more soap-esque status.
But for me, this doesn't matter as the books and the first 2 series were all brilliant and I'm very happy to accept where Heidi Thomas will take it, as it keeps the CTM 'entity / brand / concept' (call it what you will) going.
In one of the books (and earlier episodes) we have actually already had the 'mother giving birth to someone else's non-white baby' story and in that case, the husband did not blink an eye and whether he really did see the reality or not, from moment one, treated the new born as if his own with much 'normal' fatherly love (unlike what we saw last Sunday), after much agonising by the mother (as we saw last Sunday).
Well she has to be playing Stacey from EE tonight someone just mentioned Beyonce and Ring on the Finger and it's supposed to set in the mic 50's LOL
I missed that. Not literally, surely?
No, she said fiancé.
Oh ok, I didn't realise. All (I think) of the stories in the first two series I recognised from the books. I remember the other mixed raced baby storyline, so heartwarming, although a shame she cheated on him
I expected at some point they would make fictional stories, because heaven forbid they run out of stories while ratings are high!
Is it me or does Lacey seem to be saddled with roles being a young mum/young wife/fiancé?
Apart from the live Bbc3 Frankenstein thing, Being Human & that army thing, she hasn't really moved away from that typecast.
A shame really, as she could be a future Who companion.
Jenna Coleman was out of the soap limelight for a few years before getting Who.
It's a shame Lacey couldn't have held out for longer before rejoining EE.
By my reckoning 6 tickets at half-crown each would be £1 10s!
Yes I noticed that too.
thats fifteen shillings
True but we don't know how many tickets Fred bought or what he bought them for.
He showed the nurses 6 but maybe he bought others?
Maybe also, Sister exhorted a bit more out of them in compensation!!!!!!!!!!!
Oops maths not what it used to be, of course 15/- ;-)
I think if the story lines seem credible in the context of the characters and circumstances of the time, the series will be fine.
If someone came new to it, would they even know one way of another if the stories were real? Its a credit to Heidi Thomas that there is almost a seamless continuation.
Yes. I wonder if that will be built on. We'll see.
Thanks.