I've heard of dual nationality and thought that people were limited to only two in terms of being able to have passports.
Two I can understand. Not sure I would cope with four.
They are indeed, but thanks to the knuckle-draggers it can be misinterpreted.
Jeff Randall has mentioned in the past of the time when he worked at the BBC and he was told his Union Jack cufflinks were a symbol of the BNP and that he shouldn't wear them - thankfully he wore them anyway.
He gets the UK and Irish one just from living here all his life and his parents were originally from here.... The US one is because his dad was in the US armed forces, so any children he has get automatic citizenship for that... and hes Swedish becuase his parents were stationed there when he was born and having been born there gets you a passport.
I'm proud to be an Englishman who's also proud to be British and all that Brits have achieved over the centuries which have also been of benefit to the rest of the world.
I'm proud to be an Englishman who's also proud to be British and all that Brits have achieved over the centuries which have also been of benefit to the rest of the world.
We should praise ourselves more often.
I like, and agree with this post, but as a English woman.
I consider myself lucky and grateful. I find it difficult to feel proud of something I haven't personally achieved. But occasionally I can swept up in it.
Then again, you could ask if anyone feels guilty over the less than admirable aspects of British history.
Can I get some clarification about whether we're actually discussing race or nationality here?
The thread title seems very unambiguous but then the OP talks about something completely different.
Personally, I feel lucky, rather than proud, to be born in Europe in the 20th century, rather than anywhere or any-when else.
I can't really manage to feel "proud" of that because it's a very large and varied demographic so it's hard to find anything specific common trait to latch onto and take pride in.
I was watching a comedy stand up by Chris Rock .He said something which got me thinking even though its quite obvious IMO.He was talking about immigration and how TRUE americans were the war veterans because they fought to make a difference in America and strangely enough Immigrants who sacrificed a lot to get here.he then said the rest of us are here (America)just simply because we happened to pop out of our mothers (you know what) in this particular place and thats it!
so basically are you actually PROUD to be british (even though you personally haven't actually done anything to achieve this) or like myself,do you just think of yourself as incredibly lucky (or unlucky ) to be here?
Lucky to be born and bred here, despite all our problems. I don't suffer grass is greener syndrome.
How can I be proud of something that's an accident of birth- that's like saying "I'm proud to be born with black hair"
Never understood this notion. Unless your mother was meant to have aborted you, your birth and consequently your racial make-up was not an accident. You are the product of the decisions and life choices made by your parents, who in turn follow from their respective ancestors.
If you are on the other hand wilfully denying your racial heritage because you are an international communist, then I suppose that is one of the mental hoops your sort would have to jump through.
Are you "proud" of your race or do you think yourself just "lucky"
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Even if the above were desired, being under such inept Govts composed of the Lib/Lab/Con gang of incompetence these days is unlikely to assist in being proud
to be British I would have thought .
If you are on the other hand wilfully denying your racial heritage because you are an international communist, then I suppose that is one of the mental hoops your sort would have to jump through.
With respect to Riceuten, I think you may have hit the nail on the head with regards to this poster.
Although its not fashionable to say as much - I recall years ago l when serving in the forces in the Far East feeling 'fortunate' for being born British- and white, although the British bit no longer applies these days .
I'm perfectly happy to locate all my cultural identity in my county and have no real feelings either way about being English. Or British. Although I'm often relieved when you see those charity ads for Africa or something, or you see a TV programme about death row in America and catch myself thinking it's a relief somehow to have this particular accident of birth.
British isn't a race.
I am not proud of my nationality (I don't see why one would be as it's not an achievement) but I am glad I was born here rather than some third world place.
I was watching a comedy stand up by Chris Rock .He said something which got me thinking even though its quite obvious IMO.He was talking about immigration and how TRUE americans were the war veterans because they fought to make a difference in America and strangely enough Immigrants who sacrificed a lot to get here.he then said the rest of us are here (America)just simply because we happened to pop out of our mothers (you know what) in this particular place and thats it! so basically are you actually PROUD to be british (even though you personally haven't actually done anything to achieve this) or like myself,do you just think of yourself as incredibly lucky (or unlucky ) to be here?
I'm proud the be English. After all, "To be born English is to win first prize in the lottery of life." - Cecil Rhodes
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He gets the UK and Irish one just from living here all his life and his parents were originally from here.... The US one is because his dad was in the US armed forces, so any children he has get automatic citizenship for that... and hes Swedish becuase his parents were stationed there when he was born and having been born there gets you a passport.
Did you used to fear reds under the bed a few years ago?
We should praise ourselves more often.
I like, and agree with this post, but as a English woman.
Then again, you could ask if anyone feels guilty over the less than admirable aspects of British history.
Although that sounds a bit more depressing.
As you were.
The thread title seems very unambiguous but then the OP talks about something completely different.
Personally, I feel lucky, rather than proud, to be born in Europe in the 20th century, rather than anywhere or any-when else.
I can't really manage to feel "proud" of that because it's a very large and varied demographic so it's hard to find anything specific common trait to latch onto and take pride in.
Lucky to be born and bred here, despite all our problems. I don't suffer grass is greener syndrome.
Never understood this notion. Unless your mother was meant to have aborted you, your birth and consequently your racial make-up was not an accident. You are the product of the decisions and life choices made by your parents, who in turn follow from their respective ancestors.
If you are on the other hand wilfully denying your racial heritage because you are an international communist, then I suppose that is one of the mental hoops your sort would have to jump through.
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Even if the above were desired, being under such inept Govts composed of the Lib/Lab/Con gang of incompetence these days is unlikely to assist in being proud
to be British I would have thought .
I have 3 as it stands, British, Irish, Canadian. If I ever emigrate elsewhere and naturalise I could get a 4th.
What's the alternative?
I presume everybody is proud of what they are, where they come from ect.
Must be pretty damn miserable to feel ashamed of all that.
With respect to Riceuten, I think you may have hit the nail on the head with regards to this poster.
Me too. Well, yorkshirewoman. Person. Thing?
I'm perfectly happy to locate all my cultural identity in my county and have no real feelings either way about being English. Or British. Although I'm often relieved when you see those charity ads for Africa or something, or you see a TV programme about death row in America and catch myself thinking it's a relief somehow to have this particular accident of birth.
My exact feelings on the subject. Both sentences.
I am not proud of my nationality (I don't see why one would be as it's not an achievement) but I am glad I was born here rather than some third world place.
Well, its not as though it is a great personal achievement, now.
You must be another self loathing Caucasian of the left then.
Never mind, you could always blacken your face up and start speaking in a Jamaican accent.
I'm proud the be English. After all, "To be born English is to win first prize in the lottery of life." - Cecil Rhodes
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