Because I tend not to think things to death when I shuffle into the office every morning at unholy o'clock.
It's a casual greeting, not a statement of ideology.
PS. The contextual equivalent is "Gentlemen" not "Lords".
Totally non-sensical answer.
If you just said "good morning everyone" where's the thinking involved in that? You don't even have to assess the gender grouping in the room as 'everyone' applies to all genders anyway.
'Lady' started out as a title of nobility and became a way of addressing all women.
If you just said "good morning everyone" where's the thinking involved in that? You don't even have to assess the gender grouping in the room as 'everyone' applies to all genders anyway.
And who exactly are you to pass judgement on me over something to pathetically trivial? You use what greetings you like and I'll do the same.
And who exactly are you to pass judgement on me over something to pathetically trivial? You use what greetings you like and I'll do the same.
Surely you should consider the feelings of the people you're addressing when you're using 'whatever greeting you like' ? Maybe some of those women you are addressing don't like to be addressed as ladies ( unless they happen to be a member of the house of Lords/ married to a lord ) They might find it condescending.
If you liked to go into your morning meeting and say " Good morning Ars*holes" would that be ok because that's how you like to greet people?
Ladies is fine as long as the male equivalent, Gents, is also used. But when they aren't used together, like Wimbledon for example, it's the Ladies Singles and the Mens singles, it just sounds odd to me, should be the Womens singles.
Maybe some of those women you are addressing don't like to be addressed as ladies ( unless they happen to be a member of the house of Lords/ married to a lord ) They might find it condescending.
Nah, I know them quite well and they're all grown ups who tend to save their angst for things that actually matter in the real world (Third world poverty, Cancer, Boyfriend troubles and Fluffy Kittens - that kind of thing).
They're not slow in speaking their mind in my office if any of them had a problem with my manners they are perfectly capable of bringing it up themselves with out some random on the internet getting uppity on their behalf.
I think it all depends on context,
I don't mind being called lady if its not in a negative, I tend to remember it more being used in a telling off as a child " Nah then Laydeh'!!" *wagging finger.
I can't say I've ever had a problem with the word 'lady'. To be honest if someone is going to be creepy, patronising or condescending they'd manage it with whatever word they wanted.
nooo what women need to do is get over the hump that sometimes people will get your title of miss, ms or mrs wrong and there is no need to get so frumpy about it.
I don't mind lady/ladies but I can't stand to hear grown women referring to each other as 'girls'. It makes me cringe.
I'm not keen, but it's even worse when a man does it, especially if he's the boss of the women in question.
The mother of a friend used to refer to her coterie of middle-aged women as "the girls". Her husband used to call them "the old dears", which I found far less irritating.
I think it all depends on context,
I don't mind being called lady if its not in a negative, I tend to remember it more being used in a telling off as a child " Nah then Laydeh'!!" *wagging finger.
They should certainly get rid of the terms for those say, convicted of abusing children and such.
How many times have you heard a newspaper reviewer say something like, this gentleman has been convicted of 6 rapes and the murder of 2 children.
I don't recall ever seeing rapists and child abusers being referred to as gentlemen anywhere. I am sure the word gentleman may have been printed somewhere at some point but I don't think it's common for papers to use that term for sex offenders.
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Because I tend not to think things to death when I shuffle into the office every morning at unholy o'clock.
It's a polite but casual greeting, not a statement of ideology.
PS. The contextual equivalent is "Gentlemen" not "Lords".
"Morning Ladies"
"Morning Gents"
Totally non-sensical answer.
If you just said "good morning everyone" where's the thinking involved in that? You don't even have to assess the gender grouping in the room as 'everyone' applies to all genders anyway.
'Lady' started out as a title of nobility and became a way of addressing all women.
Whatever.
And who exactly are you to pass judgement on me over something to pathetically trivial? You use what greetings you like and I'll do the same.
Surely you should consider the feelings of the people you're addressing when you're using 'whatever greeting you like' ? Maybe some of those women you are addressing don't like to be addressed as ladies ( unless they happen to be a member of the house of Lords/ married to a lord ) They might find it condescending.
If you liked to go into your morning meeting and say " Good morning Ars*holes" would that be ok because that's how you like to greet people?
A banana in my tailpipe?
Interesting point.
I suppose, rightly or wrongly, it held connotations of "ladylike" behaviour, poise, and sophistication.
Perhaps you would prefer, Guys and Gals, didn't J.S used to call people that:.:D
Nah, I know them quite well and they're all grown ups who tend to save their angst for things that actually matter in the real world (Third world poverty, Cancer, Boyfriend troubles and Fluffy Kittens - that kind of thing).
They're not slow in speaking their mind in my office if any of them had a problem with my manners they are perfectly capable of bringing it up themselves with out some random on the internet getting uppity on their behalf.
I know them, You don't.
I don't mind being called lady if its not in a negative, I tend to remember it more being used in a telling off as a child " Nah then Laydeh'!!" *wagging finger.
I always picture guys using the term "lady" as creepy, especially when written online, I hear creepy voice.
But then, this is also true.
Ghastly turn of phrase.:o
How many times have you heard a newspaper reviewer say something like, this gentleman has been convicted of 6 rapes and the murder of 2 children.
I'm not keen, but it's even worse when a man does it, especially if he's the boss of the women in question.
The mother of a friend used to refer to her coterie of middle-aged women as "the girls". Her husband used to call them "the old dears", which I found far less irritating.
Never.
I think you're being silly but my dog .. sorry bitch .. named 'Lady' agrees with you.
Then you'll have to trust me - it happens all the time.
I heard Corrie's Audrey Roberts in my head then!
I don't recall ever seeing rapists and child abusers being referred to as gentlemen anywhere. I am sure the word gentleman may have been printed somewhere at some point but I don't think it's common for papers to use that term for sex offenders.
If it happened all the time, I'd be aware of it.
I suppose if a Lord's wife was convicted of something, she'd have to referred to as Lady Whoever, but that's the only exception.