Where does that leave the co-pilot in this scenario?
if it was suicide, wouldn't the pilot have to get rid t=of the co-pilot, and the only way to do this would to get him to leave the cabin, and then lock the door
So could the cabin door when shut be opened by the co-pilot, or would the captain have to do this
Until they find out more about the passengers travelling on stolen passports and until they locate the wreckage of the plane or at least the black box, I think it is unfair (to the pilot and his family) for the authorities to suggest that it may have been pilot suicide. For all they know he could have been trying to save the plane.
It doesn't seem to have been a terrorist attack since no-one has claimed responsibility.
A complete lack of debris (so far) suggests an explosion didn't happen in the air.
If the plane entered the water intact (and slowly enough to not break up), it could have been a sudden technical fault (including communications) where the pilot tried to make a safe landing on water and failed. People have commented that no passengers phoned, but maybe there is no signal so far out at sea or perhaps they were just too busy preparing for an emergency landing?
while it's obviously not impossible that the plane may have ditched at sea and quickly sunk, ask yourself what you'd do if you were on a commercial airliner and the captain came over the tannoy and informed you that he has to ditch in the ocean.
one of your first instincts would very likely be to ring your loved ones just in case.
the amount of time it would have taken to descend from 35,000 feet to safely ditch in the sea would have give people more than enough time to make some form of contact with the outside world.
even if the plane had suffered some kind of catastrophic power failure that had fried all of the electrics and had started an emergency descent to ditch, i can't imagine nobody would have tried to ring out.
for me, the only logical explanation that fits the lack of debris (at the moment) is a mid-air explosion due to some kind of technical failure on a massive level.
if it was suicide, wouldn't the pilot have to get rid t=of the co-pilot, and the only way to do this would to get him to leave the cabin, and then lock the door
So could the cabin door when shut be opened by the co-pilot, or would the captain have to do this
Think they can lock each other out (cf recent Ethiopian Air copilot hijacking own plane and seeking asylum in Geneva).
if it was suicide, wouldn't the pilot have to get rid t=of the co-pilot, and the only way to do this would to get him to leave the cabin, and then lock the door
So could the cabin door when shut be opened by the co-pilot, or would the captain have to do this
This happened only a few weeks ago when a co-pilot locked his captain out of the cabin then flew on to Geneva asking for asylum, so it can happen.
An excellent documentary was screened on it and the full version can be watched here. It involves some brilliant detective work, extremely clever metallurgist, and a sharp Lawyer. It cost an American company $44 million in compensation.
It's very fascinating, intense, and the outcome will surprise you but rather than spoil it, i'd rather you watched it.
Thanks for the link. I have just watched the documentary and you're right - it is very interesting.
I'm starting to wonder whether it has been landed somewhere. This is all very bizarre.
Why? The search is taking place over hundreds of square miles.......a huge area to have to search even with numerous planes and ships if there is little debris. And remember, the seas are littered with floating debris and oil slicks. How could the plane have landed anywhere without its trail being picked up by radar, not to mention by any people near where it landed?
I find it scary that they cannot keep track, or have no idea what happened. They think it has gone down where it lost radar - near Ca Mau - and then widen search to Malacca Strait. The strait is on other side of Malaysia. No wonder families are very angry.
AFP: Malaysia police chief says one of the stolen passport users on missing Malaysia Airlines plane has been identified
Update - Vietnam Civil Aviation Body says "yellow object" floating in the sea is not a life raft from the missing Malaysia Airlines plane
On the one hand it is a very big place to search, but on the other the first sighting of debris from the Air France flight was within 1-2 days, and that was over a much bigger, deeper ocean in bad weather with a two-day sail from the nearest land.
I'm starting to wonder whether it has been landed somewhere. This is all very bizarre.
I'm sure I read somewhere (in fact, it's probably in this thread, if I chose to read it all) that at some point, someone made radio contact with the plane and received a mumbled reply which, if true, would go against the idea of a sudden explosion...
On the one hand it is a very big place to search, but on the other the first sighting of debris from the Air France flight was within 1-2 days, and that was over a much bigger, deeper ocean in bad weather with a two-day sail from the nearest land.
You are right, even Air France they found debris immediately. This one nothing.
There is a very high possibility that the plane did not crash but was in fact, stolen.
while it's obviously not impossible that the plane may have ditched at sea and quickly sunk, ask yourself what you'd do if you were on a commercial airliner and the captain came over the tannoy and informed you that he has to ditch in the ocean.
one of your first instincts would very likely be to ring your loved ones just in case.
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You've never been on a plane before have you. You wouldn't get a signal.:kitty:
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if it was suicide, wouldn't the pilot have to get rid t=of the co-pilot, and the only way to do this would to get him to leave the cabin, and then lock the door
So could the cabin door when shut be opened by the co-pilot, or would the captain have to do this
It doesn't seem to have been a terrorist attack since no-one has claimed responsibility.
A complete lack of debris (so far) suggests an explosion didn't happen in the air.
If the plane entered the water intact (and slowly enough to not break up), it could have been a sudden technical fault (including communications) where the pilot tried to make a safe landing on water and failed. People have commented that no passengers phoned, but maybe there is no signal so far out at sea or perhaps they were just too busy preparing for an emergency landing?
one of your first instincts would very likely be to ring your loved ones just in case.
the amount of time it would have taken to descend from 35,000 feet to safely ditch in the sea would have give people more than enough time to make some form of contact with the outside world.
even if the plane had suffered some kind of catastrophic power failure that had fried all of the electrics and had started an emergency descent to ditch, i can't imagine nobody would have tried to ring out.
for me, the only logical explanation that fits the lack of debris (at the moment) is a mid-air explosion due to some kind of technical failure on a massive level.
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This is still Google translated so careful...
1400 local: Singapore's C130 is said to have sighted "a suspected lifeboat-like object" at N081605 E1025111, 140 km SW of Tho Chu island.
"Physical comfort is detected lifeboat gray striped red and blue (the color logo of Malaysia). "
[The report appears to suggest the object is emergency chute size. But I have never heard chutes are be painted in airline livery colors....]
Surface vessels on their way to investigate.
you can almost hear the cogs creaking in to life in hollywood ..
Think they can lock each other out (cf recent Ethiopian Air copilot hijacking own plane and seeking asylum in Geneva).
Apparently only a handful of countries actually check its databases on stolen passports? I hope they further tighten security at airports.
This happened only a few weeks ago when a co-pilot locked his captain out of the cabin then flew on to Geneva asking for asylum, so it can happen.
In a court case which didn't even consider the findings of the NTSB.
Why? The search is taking place over hundreds of square miles.......a huge area to have to search even with numerous planes and ships if there is little debris. And remember, the seas are littered with floating debris and oil slicks. How could the plane have landed anywhere without its trail being picked up by radar, not to mention by any people near where it landed?
Not everything has an instantaneous explanation
AFP: Malaysia police chief says one of the stolen passport users on missing Malaysia Airlines plane has been identified
Update - Vietnam Civil Aviation Body says "yellow object" floating in the sea is not a life raft from the missing Malaysia Airlines plane
I'm sure I read somewhere (in fact, it's probably in this thread, if I chose to read it all) that at some point, someone made radio contact with the plane and received a mumbled reply which, if true, would go against the idea of a sudden explosion...
There is a very high possibility that the plane did not crash but was in fact, stolen.
I don't want to make light of the situation, but Lost had crossed my mind.
You've never been on a plane before have you. You wouldn't get a signal.:kitty:
How do you steal a plane midflight? What about the passengers?